PS3 pricing

[wihadmin]

So for those who are waiting for the PS3, how do you feel about the price points being set at $499 and $599? If you add in 2 games ($120), 1 extra controller ($40), you're almost at $800 with the higher package. This is not including tax either.

Not only that, most places might force you to buy a bundle with a bunch of games and accessories which might boost the price up to $1000. IMO, that's way way out of the price range for most gamers. Only the hardcore gamers can justify that kind of money for a gaming console.

Also, are EB's, Gamestops, TRU, Best Buys taking pre-sell reservations? I had heard a rumor that Sony doesn't want any one to have reservation lists so that if you want one, you have to stand in line. True or False rumor?

[Multiplex]

At 499+ accessories I'll just stick with PC gaming and legacy consoles.

That's too friggin much.

[[W33T]ralgoth]

This price has TOTALLY turned me away from the PS3... I was on the fence about an Xbox360 vs. a PS3 as it was, and this just totally turns me the other way...

[Prowler130]

At 499+ accessories I'll just stick with PC gaming and legacy consoles.

That's too friggin much.


agreed, im going with Wii

[The_Professor]

I think I'll just buy a top of the line video card instead, that's insane.

[Vryllyn]

Wow, I'm actually not intimidated by the price. I'm going to pick one up.

MSG:4 FTW!

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

The only reason I'm sticking with PS3 is because of the titles that generally stick with sony. Although I will be waiting for prices to drop back down. 600 bucks is my PC upgrade I want, 2 gigs of ram and a new vid card.

[Vash]

I'll wait a year until prices drop. Until then I'm with Prowler, Wii ftw!

[bman65]

Lets see console have become so advanced nowadays they are pretty much specialized PCs. By buying a PS3 I just get a very limited PC with a very good graphics card, as well as acess to more games.

With that same $600 I could upgrade my current PC to 2GB ram and a 7900 card which will likely make me have better graphics than that same PS3. Hmm so, why would anyone with an already decent computer spend so much when they could get so much more out of that money if they spent it on their computer?

The only advantage I can see is that game selection is better on console. However, more and more often the better console games find their way on to PC anyways.

Well I guess its just PC for me.

[Kev Kanos]

I never thought I would say this but, Wii is looking pretty good right now.

[Vryllyn]

I dunno, anything called "wii" I want to avoid. My niece used to call me that. :pain1277:

[zilong]

much as i want to try mgs4, it doesnt justify $600

[wihadmin]

$600 is only the console. +$60 for the game.

[Bigninja]

I cant afford any of the next gen consoles right now. I would much rather take a PS3 than a XBOX 360. I will probably just wail till the pawn shops have one

[Prowler130]

actually, i might pick up a few to sell on ebay.

[zilong]

$600 for me = http://media.zzounds.com/media/brand,zzounds/MH-400NT_stblk-1fa002b15b0b10764e96a94f86b9c49c.jpg

:icon_yippee:

[[W33T] Canadian23]

600$ is alot but for me i can buy it without too much hurt and already im max out on the pc parts so im mostly set and i like the ps2 and going to buy ps3 when it comes out.

[[mAd]Dr.Death]

Yeah, I had a strong feeling that it was going to be at least $500.

First off, we know that all of them are going to be sold out for the first six months.

However, what's the price of a blue ray player? Don't you think bluray players are going to be around $300+ for the first year or so that they come out?

Yeah, I have to have my Gran Turismo and GTA, and all those RPG's too, but I think I'm gonna get a Wii, I bet the Wii is only gonna be $200.

[Bonez]

Canadian23']600$ is alot but for me i can buy it without too much hurt and already im max out on the pc parts so im mostly set and i like the ps2 and going to buy ps3 when it comes out.
hate to burst your bubble, that's $600 USD, add about $100 and you got the price CDN.

welcome to the shaft of the fact that we STILL pay more for products even though the dollar sits a 1:0.9

[vonkroll]

I will not be getting a PS3, the price is a little to high for my liking.
So 360 it will be.

And Blu-Ray means nothing to me, to busy trying to get my HD harddrive/sat
reciever to worry about that.

And as for Wii or weeeeee or urine stain.... the name does enough to put me off.

No 360 and more RAM for the pc is where i will going

[Grim_Scythe]

I will be getting it and then selling it off ebay for 1k.

If not more

See how deseprate people can be....

If that fails...

well I have the PS3
:hehehmn:

[cecill611]

From what i have read the price should only be about $399us. Sony wants to win the battle blu-raydvd vs hddvd players. They can make up there loses my selling the games and the blu-ray movies. Back in the 70s sony lost alot of money when there beta lost two jvc vhs, they don`t want to lose again.

[wihadmin]

From what i have read the price should only be about $399us. Sony wants to win the battle blu-raydvd vs hddvd players. They can make up there loses my selling the games and the blu-ray movies. Back in the 70s sony lost alot of money when there beta lost two jvc vhs, they don`t want to lose again.

Do you have a link to that $399 price? From all the info I read from E3, Sony came straight out and said $499 and $599.

[cecill611]

I think it was in March gameinformer.

[The_Professor]

I think it was in March gameinformer.

*Not trying to sound rude* But personally, I'd listen to what was said at E3 in May than what was said in some magazine in March.

[dabeast135]

Also, are EB's, Gamestops, TRU, Best Buys taking pre-sell reservations? I had heard a rumor that Sony doesn't want any one to have reservation lists so that if you want one, you have to stand in line. True or False rumor?

I'm pretty damn sure that rumor is false. I guarantee that they will be taking pre-oders.

[Grim_Scythe]

Im gonna check at my Gamestop for preorders on it.

[dabeast135]

From what I heard... They arnt going to start the pre-order thing until they figure out how many units they want in each store. They dont want to make the same mistake Microsoft did with the Xbox 360's. Which actually sounds like a good idea. haha.

[Father Goose]

Several places now have stated they won't take pre-orders because it makes too much ill-will with customers. In March, when I got my 360, Gamestop in my local mall told me they had just finished filling out pre-orders for their initial batch- from November. Holy crap.

The official pricing straight from Sony's mouth is $499 for the low-end unit, $599 for the high-end unit. Their chief guy said, "For instance, is it not nonsense to compare the charge for dinner at the company cafeteria with dinner at a fine restaurant? It's a question of what you can do with that game machine."

Well, I can play games, watch movies, and listen to music. Oh, shit, I can already do that on my 360. And my PC. Hmmmm. So you're telling me it will be $600 to do that, and the only exclusive franchise I get is Gran Turismo (that I care about, I hate Japanese RPGs with a passion)? Aaaah, well, let me start saving my pennies.

[cecill611]

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May 8, 2006

PLAYSTATION®3 LAUNCHES ON NOVEMBER 17, 2006 IN NORTH AMERICA
Equipped with Blu-ray and Pre-Installed HDD
United States: US $499 (20GB HDD) and US $599 (60GB HDD)
Canada: CAN $549 (20GB HDD) and CAN $659 (60GB HDD)




Found this at SonyUSA website so i was wrong on the price. At that price i won`t be getting one for along time.

[zilong]

i just saw the trailers for ffxiii and mgs4

while i really dont care for ffxiii, mgs4 looks fascinating ;o;

$600 ftl

[Lord_malak]

I don't believe the rumor. I am a little dissappointed that it is so high. I can somewhat justify it because it will play blu-ray disks. IMO, I understand the high price because they are STILL loosing $200 per premium box. I will only probally get the lower version, because the more expensive one only has 40 gb more hard drive, but I will wait for specifics before choosing.

[Bonez]

the only exclusive franchise I get is Gran Turismo (that I care about, I hate Japanese RPGs with a passion)? Aaaah, well, let me start saving my pennies.
so i can look foreward to whoopin your ass in forza2 with my lotus then ?

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

i just saw the trailers for ffxiii and mgs4

while i really dont care for ffxiii, mgs4 looks fascinating ;o;

$600 ftl

Wait... wasn't ffxii the "last" FF?

[Father Goose]

so i can look foreward to whoopin your ass in forza2 with my lotus then ?

You may look forward to something, but let me assure you that I don't suck nearly as bad at racing games as I do at FPSs. I may not win every race but I can hold my own.

[Vash]

JimmytehHand8']Wait... wasn't ffxii the "last" FF?

The last FF for PS2. As long as the fanbase for the FF games remains like it is, the end of the series isn't in view.

[Father Goose]

...the end of the series isn't in view.

Thus there is no hope for mankind. Just kidding! I do think it's funny that they have all been named "Final Fantasy" when they just keep popping out new ones. Which one will be the final one?

[vic.tz]

360 + Revolution = $600

(I know it's called Wii, but I like Revolution better)

I'd do that instead of getting a PS3. :P

[Vash]

Thus there is no hope for mankind. Just kidding! I do think it's funny that they have all been named "Final Fantasy" when they just keep popping out new ones. Which one will be the final one?

The original game was called Final Fantasy because it was suppose to be Squares last game, as they were on the verge of disbanding(they had been making lots of crap games before FF). The first one single-handedly brought them back into the good graces of gamers. So they kept churning them out, and the name stuck.

[{EA}TOP AGENT]

Well I was told by a friend who works at EB that suppsoely the pre-order might be either this week or next week. Now if he lied to me I'm going to smack him stupid. Now 600 bucks for the PS3 isn't that bad. I'm seperating 50 bucks right now after every check from now till november that way it will be paid off in full come november.

As for FF i think I saw something on gamespot saying they were making a 13 lol. Me and my friend were laughing because their not even done with 12 and they got plans for 13 already. I really hope they remake FFVII though. Anyone see the tech demo of FFVII?

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

Forget that price. That's a whole 2 gigs of ram, a new ATI card, and probably a whole new mouse and speakers right there for a less useful PS3.

[Buckski]

Here is link comparing the difference in the price and what you get:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1959684,00.asp

[{EA}TOP AGENT]

When you save up money in advance it isn't that much considering. I mean i spent 2k on this computer but of course I saved up some money while working. I'm not going to deny the fact 600 bucks is pricey but tell you this much. I don't think MGS4 or Vision gran turismo is coming out for the PC.

[dabeast135]

When you save up money in advance it isn't that much considering. I mean i spent 2k on this computer but of course I saved up some money while working. I'm not going to deny the fact 600 bucks is pricey but tell you this much. I don't think MGS4 or Vision gran turismo is coming out for the PC.

But the way I see it.... Im not going to pay $600 to play 2 games. And some people might. I guess it depends on how bad you want to play the 2 games. haha

[[W33T] Canadian23]

usually a lot of good games come after a few years.

[Vash]

I know there is quite a few games coming out for PS3 I would love to play. Thus the $600 price tag is justifiable. Although, Wii has more games I want, so it gets bought first.

[StevenNevets]

Canadian23']600$ is alot but for me i can buy it without too much hurt and already im max out on the pc parts so im mostly set and i like the ps2 and going to buy ps3 when it comes out.Rich Man hill:LolLolLolLol:

I'll wait a year or 2 on this

[[W33T] Canadian23]

Rich Man hill:LolLolLolLol:

I'll wait a year or 2 on this

lololl true true i do live in richmanhill and im also rich too not to be braging much:jerkit: i do live very well.

thats what happens when your dad is a doctor.

[MajorPayne]

I think sony just dug it's own grave with this one. I cannot see myself spending $600 on a console thats ridiculous, and the fact that the cheapest PS3 is the price of the best 360, that sort of seals the deal.

[wihadmin]

I think sony just dug it's own grave with this one. I cannot see myself spending $600 on a console thats ridiculous, and the fact that the cheapest PS3 is the price of the best 360, that sort of seals the deal.

The 360 w/ harddrive and wireless controller is $399. The cheapest PS3 is still $499. $100 more than the loaded 360!

[Bonez]

The 360 w/ harddrive and wireless controller is $399. The cheapest PS3 is still $499. $100 more than the loaded 360!BUT you miss the issue, the "unloaded" PS3 doesn't have HDMI support, so when BR actually(if ever) becomes their standard it cannot correctly display it.

also has no WIFI adapter

and there is something else but i can't remember it.

the PS3 UNLIKE the 360 can't be upgraded to the higher end version(you can take a core and turn it into a prem by replacing the cables adding HDD and getting a wireless controller)

[The_Professor]

[PS3] Sony makes moves to stamp out lucrative second-hand market
Words: Matt Cundy

Wednesday 24 May 2006
High street games shops have been told by Sony that there will be no PS3 pre-owned sections in their stores as it will be illegal for customers to sell any next-gen PlayStation games that they've bought, retail sources have revealed to GamesRadar.
It seems that Sony is planning to adopt a licensing system that will mean gamers won't own the PS3 titles that they've paid money for. Instead, they will only be purchasing the licence to play the game and that the software itself will still be Sony property - meaning that the disc won't be the customer's to sell.
We assume that the thinking behind this move will ultimately be to stop PS3 games being resold several times - which currently snatches potential sales away from Sony - and to counter the impression in consumers' minds that games are only really worth their pre-owned price and are not worth buying new.
When we contacted Sony, it issued us with the following statement: "We have made all of the official announcements at E3 and cannot make any further comments at this time. We will be announcing more news running up to PlayStation 3's launch."

WTF Sony???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :upyours:



http://www.gamesradar.com/gb/ps3/game/news/article.jsp?articleId=20060524153157765035&sectionId=1006

[Bonez]

so who is still backing that company now ?

[Vryllyn]

That is more aimed at the people who work for, either...

A) Sony

of

B) Any software developer.

One of the local EBgames get tons of people from Sony and EA that basically walk into the store with their "free" copy and sells it to EBGames or whoever, for credit. Sometimes before the release. However, I doubt this will fly with anyone or any company.

[wihadmin]

I'd like to see the actual official source of that news piece.

[The_Professor]

I'd like to see the actual official source of that news piece.

Ya I was just thinking about that too. Cuz u never really know, that's just some website. I'm sure with enought "support" from either Microsoft or Nintendo they could get an article like that written up to sway potential PS3 buyers.

[Vash]

Wow, if that turns out to be true, I won't be backing Sony for PS3. That's just ridiculous. Wii all the way!

[The_Professor]

Well I just emailed sony to see if this was indeed true, so I'll let u know when (more like if) I receive any response.

[Bonez]

it's been pulled, but not completely, they said "all PS3 games will work with all systems without locking it to the first system played"

but that doesn't really answer the question.

[The_Professor]

Okay so I get response (well sort of) from Sony.

We do not have any information regarding the question referenced in your email
about the
PlayStation(R)3 (PS3) computer entertainment system. The only information
available at this time
has been released at a press conference held in Los Angeles, California, in May
of 2006. Sony
Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCEI) revealed the outline of its PlayStation(R)3
(PS3) computer
entertainment system, incorporating the world's most advanced Cell processor
with supercomputer-like
power. To read the complete press release, please click on the link below.

http://www.us.playstation.com/News/PressReleases/341 (javascript:ol('http://www.us.playstation.com/News/PressReleases/341');)

If you have further questions regarding this message, please refer to your email
case
number:3471889.


.....okay and that means exactly what? Nothing. They didn't even respond to my question, that's probably just some generic message they send to everyone that writes to them about PS3. And this was my initial email to them:

According to this website: http://www.gamesradar.com/gb/ps3/gam...ction (javascript:ol('http://www.gamesradar.com/gb/ps3/gam...ction');) Id=1006

It states that Sony will not allow the resale of their games at any game
retailer in a previously
used section. I cannot find any offical word about this from any of your press
releases and I just
wanted to confirm if this was indeed true. I appreciate your response and
attention to this matter.


Okay so I wrote that really quickly but I think I got my point across and they didn't even address the issue. :wallbash:

[MajorPayne]

Lets face it, sony's gone nuts! I never thought I would say this, but I'm really starting to like microsoft.

[The_Professor]

Ok well even though Sony never replied to me directly about the issue, I did find this article.

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archives/2005/11/15/sonys_clampdown_on_secondhand_games_updated.html

I would like to clarify that this is false speculation and that PlayStation 3 software will not be copy protected to a single machine but will be playable on any PlayStation 3 console.

[z3speed4me]

if that whole thing actually happens...i am NOT buying one anymore

ok i lied...the preorder i have will be bought, but sold on ebay the next day for nice amounts of cash

[Bonez]

if that whole thing actually happens...i am NOT buying one anymore

ok i lied...the preorder i have will be bought, but sold on ebay the next day for nice amounts of cash*buzzer* wrong answer, sony won't allow preorders of the system.

[The_Professor]

*buzzer* wrong answer, sony won't allow preorders of the system.

Are you shittin me?

[wihadmin]

*buzzer* wrong answer, sony won't allow preorders of the system.

This is a topic of debate. I haven't seen any official announcements that said either way...

[Bonez]

This is a topic of debate. I haven't seen any official announcements that said either way...everywhere that can and would give them is under a "no preorder"

since MS struggled at the beginning to get enough systems, sony is probally taking a "no preorder" stance to avoid unfilled preorders, but you know there will be some places that will ignore that and get caught and pulled off first day shipments.

[dabeast135]

everywhere that can and would give them is under a "no preorder"

since MS struggled at the beginning to get enough systems, sony is probally taking a "no preorder" stance to avoid unfilled preorders, but you know there will be some places that will ignore that and get caught and pulled off first day shipments.

If Sony was smart about it they wouldnt make the same mistake Microsoft did and they would just make one console. Not a core and premium. That way there probably wouldnt be a shortage when the system came out.

[z3speed4me]

ya know what...there better be preorders, bc i have 2 on preorder

if not i want my ****in down payment money back from where i bought it!!!

[MajorPayne]

I spent all my money on a guitar, so I think all of the consoles are to expensive, but the PS3 is like pooring salt on an open wound.

[The_Professor]

ya know what...there better be preorders, bc i have 2 on preorder

if not i want my ****in down payment money back from where i bought it!!!

From where? I was in game stop last week and the guy told me preorders weren't available until october. :dunno:

[FiLTHY_SNiPER]

Fack it, I'm still getting a PS3.

[f1sh3r]

i made a decision about buying into anymore sony media schemes until they are out at least a year. i just traded in my psp and games because i got tired of waiting for anything good to come out and the absolute failure of umd. i did enjoy my minidisc player WAY back in the day, no matter how suck the software was to actually put music on the thing.

[z3speed4me]

from FYE

ima bout to go there and make sure they dindt **** me or ima ****in some1 up shitttttt

[wihadmin]

I'm getting a Wii after this video.

http://weakgame.com/media_12077_Wii_vs_PS3.html

[[W33T] Canadian23]

I'm getting a Wii after this video.

http://weakgame.com/media_12077_Wii_vs_PS3.html

i'll get both or use a friends wii

[EANeuspeed]

It this correct that the playstation 3 will be in stores on November 17.

[Drayu]

I will be attempting to get it the night of release, but only to put it on Ebay, I have no interest in actually using it.

[Vash]

It this correct that the playstation 3 will be in stores on November 17.

PS3 will be out on the 17th, with the Wii following on the 19th.

[sir_digalot]

i'll get both or use a friends wii


hehehehehehe......

[EANeuspeed]

PS3 will be out on the 17th, with the Wii following on the 19th.

Oh my god freaking awesome. Im buying it for sure.:ban_dance01::ban_dance01::ban_dance01:

[CHUCKBilly]

i ve got an insider whos going to help me get one and reselling it on E bay for 2,000 a price the rich Europeans would love to pay since they wont get theirs until march, i love the close American Japanese relationship.

[z3speed4me]

if i can get 2 g's ima def sell mine if i get it that night...

[WarMachineAE]

I'm gonna happily try to pick up at least one, hopefully two on release date at work(Best Buy) and then turn around and sell'em on Ebay for a nice profit. I have no problem waiting another month and'a half to get a PS3 if I can make a $600 profit on each console(if i get 2+).

BTW: Dunno if it has been answered yet, but the big chains like Best Buy, Circuit City are not holding reservations for the consoles. I think some smaller chains like Babbages/GameStop/whatever they are, are allowing reservations but I dunno for sure. If Best Buy allowed us to do it, I'd be snapping up all kinds of reserves.

[wihadmin]

I'm gonna happily try to pick up at least one, hopefully two on release date at work(Best Buy) and then turn around and sell'em on Ebay for a nice profit.

So how does that work? Since you work at Best Buy, do they have X units set aside for employees? or do you stand next to the stack of PS3 and wait for 10A to arrive and you grab one for yourself? or do you just hide one for yourself in the back room and pay for it later? Inquiry minds want to know.

[EANeuspeed]

Do you guys think the price is a little TOO much?

[Bonez]

So how does that work? Since you work at Best Buy, do they have X units set aside for employees? or do you stand next to the stack of PS3 and wait for 10A to arrive and you grab one for yourself? or do you just hide one for yourself in the back room and pay for it later? Inquiry minds want to know.was talking to draven during the 360 launch, if he has the dumb idea of taking systems, i hope he knows how to find another job, they put a "no purchase" on the employees until they had regular stock.

[WarMachineAE]

So how does that work? Since you work at Best Buy, do they have X units set aside for employees? or do you stand next to the stack of PS3 and wait for 10A to arrive and you grab one for yourself? or do you just hide one for yourself in the back room and pay for it later? Inquiry minds want to know.

Man, I wish I could. We don't set aside anything for anyone, and I can't hide it because that week we get'em in before launch they are under like high-security watch, but I'm the Car Audio supervisor so I'm rarely in the warehouse anyway... always out in the install bay. What I have to do is just wait in line like everyone else, but I kinda have the upper-hand because I know how many we have, what days they are arriving, etc. I don't even get a discount on the PS3 itself(nor any other console), but I can get the hook-up on the games and accesories!

[EANeuspeed]

Any of you guys planning on buying it this upcoming Friday?

[wihadmin]

Any of you guys planning on buying it this upcoming Friday?

Good luck if you don't already have a pre-order. You should probably camp out 24 hours in advance to get a ticket to buy at 12:01A Fri.

[Father Goose]

If I could have gotten the days off of work I would have camped out to buy one just to sell it. But around here Best Buy and Circuit City wouldn't tell us what their plans were so I didn't go through the hassle at work.

I was all set to eBay it for a ton of cash. I could make like, 4 months of car payments on one day/night of camping out.

[z3speed4me]

i know the plan...and how many we have...

but i cant get one from work :(

[CrockD]

It's very very early days yet, but an early sign that there could be trouble for Sony is the fact that the PS3 is selling for $1000 on ebay now. AND that's the 60gb version. That's only a $300 premium against buying it from the store and on Ebay you don't pay tax (yeah yeah you're supposed to, but come on...).

By comparison the XBOX 360 stayed at $3000 for about 3 weeks when it came out. It seems that the high price they are charging has deterred people from getting it. A lot of people seem to be waiting until the price comes down or until it is easilly available.

In other news the Wii appears to be doing very well. It sold out right from the start when it offered more units in the first place. I'm a big Sony fan but I have to say good job Nintendo for getting your groove back!:thumbsup:

[LordBeer]

Be carefull if you do sell it on Ebay... This guy got burned. :lol:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280050635902&ru=http://search.ebay.com:80/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=280050635902&fvi=1

[Bonez]

never put anything under breaking even as your starting price.

[CrockD]

I guarantee he takes the neg rep and doesn't ship it.

[Klickinater]

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supply and demand chart. Bottom axis is quantity
and side is price. The less quantity supplied the higher the demand
thus the supply line moves to theleft and the demand to the right raising the
price a lot.

for any one who didnt get that its okay basicly saying the less you have and the more people want it means higher prices. I think they can get away with this because theres so few of them out there and theres so many people saying "Oh, you'll get it for christmas" so there are going to be a lot of empty walleted parents out t here for the holidays

[kilroy0097]

never put anything under breaking even as your starting price.

Actually never put something like this up for auction without a Reserve Price so that it doesn't go through unless that reserve price is met. That way you can start it at $0.99 and not worry about it.

[loopcycle]

actually, starting at below breaking even is a great way to get a lot of attention. ive always found that starting bids way too low for the desirability of the item gets me more money by auctions end because there are way more watchers, which increases the chances of a bidding war between two people who are tired of losing.

ill bet that seller ended the auction on a verbal agreement with the high bidder to sell at $1200 or thereabouts. the clear benefit is that the seller gets the money faster and only has to pay final value fees on $10 instead of $1200.