Reputation

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

Whats the point of reputation? (The little green bars on the upper right side of a person's post).

And more importantly, how does Fozzy already have 2 bars? :P

[Ichi]

Because he is Fozzie

http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/ed/9a/pr-Toys-Palisades_Muppets_Series_6_Patrol_Bear_Fozzie-resized200.jpg

[[W33T] earthpeople]

that's a great reason...:icon_biggrin:

[wihadmin]

Reputation is a system where users can judge each other's posts. If you make a good post, people can approve of your post which gives you reputation points. When you get so many reputation points, your vote on other people weighs more when you approve or disapprove of their post.

Over time, a good poster will rise up with high reputation marks. And those with crap posts will have very low reputation marks. This serves as an indicator on the "trustworthy-ness" of a poster for readers.

[marcusforealius]

this should work out well for Grim

[Vash]

this should work out well for Grim

Indeed it shall.

[bman65]

this should work out well for Grim

*Nevermind, I just tried it and there is a possibility for negative*

The only question is how low can he go.

[wihadmin]

*Nevermind, I just tried it and there is a possibility for negative*

The only question is how low can he go.

Lowest reputaton score in the system is -999999. So he can go pretty low.

[Blis]

When you rate a thread do the points go to the thread starter or everyone in the thread.

Can you rate a specific person's post within a thread?

EDIT:nm i just found the add to reputation button

What does rating a thread do?Does it give anyone points?

[wihadmin]

rating a thread gives it stars in the thread listings. It does not give points to anyone. Rating a thread serves the purpose of letting readers know that may they should read this thread bc a lot of people thought highly of it.

[slacker_fse]

Cant we just have a good old fashion street fight to build our rep.

[papasan9]

here is some reputation info including the default settings under "modifying user reputation somethingorother". dont know if the rep settings have been changed by wihadmin but gives you an idea of how it is ranked.

http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/reputation

[FozzyBear]

JimmytehHand8']Whats the point of reputation? (The little green bars on the upper right side of a person's post).

And more importantly, how does Fozzy already have 2 bars? :P


:)

Ok need 5 characters to post. so :)

[Grim_Scythe]

im at -18.....

you bastards!

[The_Professor]

Hahha Grim.

I visit another forum that has this exact same style forum. The mods all have like infinite rep power so if u get negged by one of them, u aren't coming out of the red for quite some time. ONly bad thing is u can't rep the same person that often. So when u think Grim on average probably makes about five crap posts per day I can only neg rep him every once in a while! :D

[wihadmin]

Hahha Grim.

I visit another forum that has this exact same style forum. The mods all have like infinite rep power so if u get negged by one of them, u aren't coming out of the red for quite some time. ONly bad thing is u can't rep the same person that often. So when u think Grim on average probably makes about five crap posts per day I can only neg rep him every once in a while! :D

But each of the other 150 active members can neg him once and that will do enough damage. Compound that daily and over a week, grim's so far gone that the system will just auto-ban him off.

[Grim_Scythe]

are you serious?

an autoban on the forums.....

[The_Professor]

are you serious?

an autoban on the forums.....

Damn it, who pos repped him?!! lmao still <3 ya grim

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

But each of the other 150 active members can neg him once and that will do enough damage. Compound that daily and over a week, grim's so far gone that the system will just auto-ban him off.

Is there any way to get rid of this auto-ban? I mean, some of grims posts are sometimes annoying, but he doesn't deserve an autoban...

[wihadmin]

JimmytehHand8']Is there any way to get rid of this auto-ban? I mean, some of grims posts are sometimes annoying, but he doesn't deserve an autoban...

Then people shouldn't rate him negatively. I mean, the readers control his fate. If we eliminate the auto-ban, then what's the point? Just to pump up our egos with positive marks?

[Grim_Scythe]

but you see is that people like to do bad things to me for kicks....Alf for instance....always making remarks about my panties on the Server.....meanie :P

[redish16]

Just to pump up our egos with positive marks?

:jerkit:

[The_Professor]

I think it's a good system unless it's abused. I say keep it.

[Grim_Scythe]

so when is it declard abusive?
I say if some has got -150 that's just plain old abuse.

Honestly what kind of person can actually achieve that?


(*rolls eyes)

[Multiplex]

Letting fellow users rate negatively and then create an autoban doesn't work well... just like allowing kick votes on the BF2 servers doesn't work well.

It's a nasty system once it starts getting abused...

[Tacklberie]

I just gave WiHAdmin negative approval.. onder what happens if the Moderators get too low... maybe their ability to post is revoked! LOL

[wihadmin]

I just gave WiHAdmin negative approval..

Likewise. :upyours:

[Tacklberie]

DAMNIT! its not as funny when I get the negative feedback!

[Tacklberie]

well, each negative feedback is -20 reputation points. I know this cause WiHAdmin hit me off 2x... and well now im -40.

PS. As far as I can tell, if you are -40 you are unable to give negative feedback, until you are at least +0.

Grrr WiHAdmin... i was pwned!

[Ichi]

well, each negative feedback is -20 reputation points. I know this cause WiHAdmin hit me off 2x... and well now im -40.

PS. As far as I can tell, if you are -40 you are unable to give negative feedback, until you are at least +0.

Grrr WiHAdmin... i was pwned!

Mess with the bull...:LolLolLolLol:
http://www.gafflin.com/haha/articles/bravo/gleason.jpg

[Tacklberie]

QFT!

I have to earn more reputation before I can give more negative feedback. I am not sure if WiHAdmin has a more powerful feedback because 1.. he is the admin, 2.. he has much more reputation than I do (which makes his votes more powerful), or 3.. that it is set to a standard -20 per negative.

either way, stating my observations on the rating status atm.

[Multiplex]

The impact you have on someone elses reputation is directly proportional to the amount of reputation you currently have. The wihadmin account having so much positive reputation can knock off a ton of reputation in one smack... whereas I can only effect you a few points at a time.

[The_Professor]

QFT!

I have to earn more reputation before I can give more negative feedback. I am not sure if WiHAdmin has a more powerful feedback because 1.. he is the admin, 2.. he has much more reputation than I do (which makes his votes more powerful), or 3.. that it is set to a standard -20 per negative.

either way, stating my observations on the rating status atm.

Negged for stealing my avatar. lol

[FozzyBear]

Tacklberie (http://www.warishellgaming.com/forums/member.php?u=1809) got OWNED!!

That's the funniest thing I'm seen all day. :roflololol:

[Tacklberie]

son of a bitch... i didnt even see your avatar! now i gotta find a new one!

gaffaw... and there is none of Brick.

[Tacklberie]

damn i really am a WiH Whipping Boy! I cant even defend myself!

[Tacklberie]

OMFG... i changed my avatar.. no one is using this! gimme positive rep now!

[The_Professor]

OMFG... i changed my avatar.. no one is using this! gimme positive rep now!

Well I think if you selected from the available avatars, then those are the ones that a member previously uploaded and they were just transferred to the new site. So that could possibly be someone else's as well.

But yes, Brick would be good too. :)

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

Lol... apparently there is a limit to how much reputation you can spread around. But I think I did manage to add to the rep of the majority of the regular posters and people who help others out (whether through guides, or tech problems, or info).

The only thing I'm confused about is under the reputation info for your post (when you click on your own little reputation meter thing) it displays rep given for a post. I understand the Red boxes, and the Green boxes, but whats with the Grey boxes?

[The_Professor]

If someone with negative reps tries to pos rep or neg rep u then it' gray and its a neutral rep. So basically, it's meaningless.

[Tacklberie]

wow.. so all my GREY rep bonus' to everyone are worthless... DOH DOH!

[The_Professor]

One thing I don't like is how when you view your reputation, you can't see who gave it to you. It just shows the comment (if they left one) Also, I wish it showed the number of rep points underneath your blocks. I've seen it done like this somewhere else, so I'm pretty sure it can be done. Just didnt know if it was done that like on purpose.

[Max47r]

Because he is Fozzie

http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/ed/9a/pr-Toys-Palisades_Muppets_Series_6_Patrol_Bear_Fozzie-resized200.jpg

I'm starting to think you have a picture for everything

[wihadmin]

One thing I don't like is how when you view your reputation, you can't see who gave it to you. It just shows the comment (if they left one) Also, I wish it showed the number of rep points underneath your blocks. I've seen it done like this somewhere else, so I'm pretty sure it can be done. Just didnt know if it was done that like on purpose.

I have the rep power disabled for now. that's what that number is, your rep power, not your rep points. To see your rep points, you have to do into your User CP.

[The_Professor]

Okay, well any way to get it so I can see who repped me? Or do you have to turn that rep power option on to see that?

[Tacklberie]

Yeah! im in the green again!

[The_Professor]

Yeah! im in the green again!

Just for that....negged.




















Hheheheh, j/k :D

[wihadmin]

Okay, well any way to get it so I can see who repped me? Or do you have to turn that rep power option on to see that?

That is disabled. I am not going to let you guys see who gave you feedback bc that will lead to childish rep wars.

[The_Professor]

Good point. It would also lead to rep trading, but I was just wondering cuz I like to see who left funny comments.

[Multiplex]

Don't worry, rep trading and rep farming has been going on since the moment the site went live.

[Max47r]

How long does it take until we can rep up someone again after repping them?

[SnaKe]

How long does it take until we can rep up someone again after repping them?I'm not certain we want to give that info out.

[Multiplex]

How long does it take until we can rep up someone again after repping them?

I was about to answer... then saw Snakes post.

Disregard.

[kippendrecht]

why does evryone has 2 blocks or so and I don't..well atleast mine is still greeen:azzangel:

[[W33T] Canadian23]

i though rep was the number of post you have done. ops

[Klickinater]

Maybe if someone gives you negative then they can say why? Cause I got a negative point on a post, and I can't find whats so bad about it....

[Multiplex]

Maybe if someone gives you negative then they can say why? Cause I got a negative point on a post, and I can't find whats so bad about it....

It's all subjective... and they don't even need a reason regardless. You'll find that most people will just spread it around to their friends/clanmates whether they deserve it or not and then tank the players who they occassionally disagree with.

It's the nature of the beast... and it's all absolutely meaningless. So don't worry about it. :)

[Mad5cout]

It's all subjective... and they don't even need a reason regardless. You'll find that most people will just spread it around to their friends/clanmates whether they deserve it or not and then tank the players who they occassionally disagree with.

It's the nature of the beast... and it's all absolutely meaningless. So don't worry about it. :)

I'm giving Multi good rep for being correct.

[Kev Kanos]

My rep still sucks.

[Multiplex]

Here's some free rep for no reason.

[kippendrecht]

cough, rep farming :LolLolLolLol:

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

Meh... I've only downvoted 1 person. IMO nobody currently on these boards really deserve negative rep.

[kippendrecht]

grim did, but hes cooling down...hope that worked....I give some rep out, most of it positive, but now I cant give rep anymore...like I gave 2 much..

[WINGCOMM]

I think only moderators or admins should have the ability to award or take away rep, so we can leave it to the honest and respectable people.:thumbsup:

WC

[Multiplex]

I think only moderators or admins should have the ability to award or take away rep, so we can leave it to the honest and respectable people.:thumbsup:

WC

LMAO, they have the highest rep scores! :)

[kippendrecht]

when they give you some rep, you shoot up high into the sky. nahh, lets just leave it, I dont care about it, noone does I think

[WINGCOMM]

Well it does take care of rep farming and depending on the admins it makes the system more honest. And it be more accurate on whos more respectable in the community.

WC

[Klickinater]

Ya, like the time I got - Rep i mentioned before, the post was agreeing with everyone else that posted so ya no idea,

so the admins should only have the power to give people rep of then again...theres a lot of people who deserve it and Admins have a hard neough job as it is, without having everyone begging them for Rep...

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

I think we should just leave it as it is... its mad fun adding funny comments when you give someone rep.

[StevenNevets]

So I guess we just suck up to the admins and our clan members

well guess what ima little rebel:flipoff:

[Kir Kanos]

LOL i love the reputation bars. you guys rock!

[Tacklberie]

as much as I like the system, I still cannot give someone rep for a good / bad post, even though I am positive now, and I havent given someone rep since like the 2nd day it was live... I am still unable to award it...

Is it Nerfed? or what is the protocol on this?

***Edit***
I an post rep on certain individuals, but... not someone I have already given rep to. How many other reps do you have to post before you can post rep on the same person?

[kippendrecht]

I really wouldn't know...I just aprove a good post. there was only 1 time I couldn't give it anymore, that was on grim, gave him to much neg rep....

[wihadmin]

as much as I like the system, I still cannot give someone rep for a good / bad post, even though I am positive now, and I havent given someone rep since like the 2nd day it was live... I am still unable to award it...

Is it Nerfed? or what is the protocol on this?

***Edit***
I an post rep on certain individuals, but... not someone I have already given rep to. How many other reps do you have to post before you can post rep on the same person?
You have to rep 20 peopel before you can rep someone again.

[[W33T] Canadian23]

You have to rep 20 peopel before you can rep someone again.

that makes good sense no spamming of rep on one guy.

[KAstickboy]

You have to rep 20 peopel before you can rep someone again.

what about a time limit and some ppl deserve another rep before you rep 20 other ppl, i dont rep unless its a good post and i really dont think that 20 different ppl need to get usless rep if they dont deserve it. i may rep once or twice a week for a great post...

just a question/suggestion...

KA

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

KAstickboy']what about a time limit and some ppl deserve another rep before you rep 20 other ppl, i dont rep unless its a good post and i really dont think that 20 different ppl need to get usless rep if they dont deserve it. i may rep once or twice a week for a great post...

just a question/suggestion...

KA

I think there is a time limit, its 24 hours if you rep too many people in a day.

[KAstickboy]

i meant, like if you dont rep anyone for 48 hours it resets, you can rep the last person you reped again. i just dont like the fact that someone can write 2 great posts and i cant rep them for both posts untill i rep 20 other ppl that prob dont deserve rep... ah well... i resorted to rep spaming ppl that have low rep to work that person back into the list...

KA

[Mad5cout]

KAstickboy']i meant, like if you dont rep anyone for 48 hours it resets, you can rep the last person you reped again. i just dont like the fact that someone can write 2 great posts and i cant rep them for both posts untill i rep 20 other ppl that prob dont deserve rep... ah well... i resorted to rep spaming ppl that have low rep to work that person back into the list...

KA

I agree.

*clicks on rep button*

[KAstickboy]

ok heres a random idea...

can we get a list on our user CP that shows who we gave rep to?

1 wihadmin
....
20 snake

1 being the most current person you reped?

KA

[[W33T] earthpeople]

i think you just need to make a list yourself and just keep track of what number you are on...:thumbsup:

[Mad5cout]

earthpeople']i think you just need to make a list yourself and just keep track of what number you are on...:thumbsup:

:wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

[WINGCOMM]

I really wish people would leave a comment when they give you a negative rep. It'd be nice to know why they don't agree with you.

WC

[Mad5cout]

I really wish people would leave a comment when they give you a negative rep. It'd be nice to know why they don't agree with you.

WC

Uh.. would it be possible to change the restricion. It's not like I'm trying to spam rep but I can;t give rep to worthy posts because I haven't gone around to twenty people yet. Sort of lame. If it's a good post, it should get rep.

[Nsane]

That's right.

[Blis]

lol Mad you keep missing the quickreply button and hitting quote instead

you dont need to press anything anymore

[Mad5cout]

lol Mad you keep missing the quickreply button and hitting quote instead

you dont need to press anything anymore

The quote button is closer... lmao...I'm lazy.

[WarMachineAE]

Aight, so I read the first two pages, but my question never appeared to be answered in any form, so I didn't read rest...

I'm working on a 800 posts, dedicted WiH community guy, and never talk smack only give praise to everyone...

Yet I have like... a 2 bar rating. Can I go cry now? Does that mean people hate me, or... I dunno, I have no idea what it means.

[FozzyBear]

You just need people to give you rep on your posts. Bunch of STAT whores :lol:

BTW I gave you +Rep :thumbsup:

[Kernel Error]

Aight, so I read the first two pages, but my question never appeared to be answered in any form, so I didn't read rest...

I'm working on a 800 posts, dedicted WiH community guy, and never talk smack only give praise to everyone...

Yet I have like... a 2 bar rating. Can I go cry now? Does that mean people hate me, or... I dunno, I have no idea what it means.

I know what you mean :slap:

[SnaKe]

Guys, If your rep isnt going down then dont get concerned. You were gone for quite awhile WM and I would guess that is probably the reason your rep hasnt gone up as much as some others. Remember that 3/4 of your posts were made before we had the rep system on this new website.
Dont sweat it.

[sgt.slauder]

:D Reputation is a system where users can judge each other's posts. If you make a good post, people can approve of your post which gives you reputation points. When you get so many reputation points, your vote on other people weighs more when you approve or disapprove of their post.

Over time, a good poster will rise up with high reputation marks. And those with crap posts will have very low reputation marks. This serves as an indicator on the "trustworthy-ness" of a poster for readers.
been playing games for awhile and never was in a forum,got to say that its pretty cool to hear everyones opion thx wihadmin :thumbsup:

[kippendrecht]

pour WM and Kernel-error, gave you both some mental support, so you can drag yourself through these hard times:lol:

[wihadmin]

THe rep system is not dependednt on the # of posts. It depends on how good your posts are. People will +Rep when they believe your post is helpful or is good. Some will just -/+ rep for the hell of it. I only +/-rep appropriately.

[kippendrecht]

now tell us how the reputation power works :lol:

[Itkovian]

Removed.

[kippendrecht]

hmmm, atleast those people try to help.....no problem with that. and maybe they give the answer in different words so you can understand it better then the first reply.....dunno but I have no problems with that. if I have a question and 10 people give me the same answer I'm pretty sure that it is the right answer....

[Ichi]

I get lots of -rep for pointing out people's stupidity. Like pointing out how their suggestions in posts were actually addressed in the original post, and if they'd bother to read it before telling us all about their suggestions, they'd know it'd already been tried and failed. And it's things like the first bloody post in a thread, too! It's not like someone suggested something that'd been tried and posted about 10 pages back...there were no other suggestions at that point.

I'm a pretty abrasive guy, and I don't tolerate stupidity very well, but I'm far from abusive....and though I don't give a rat's ass about my rep, I do wish that the jackasses who don't like how I say something would lay off the -rep if it meant I'd be autobanned. That's petty and childish. To punish someone because you didn't like their "tone"? Ridiculous.

I see your point, but as you say you don't tolerate stupidity. I guess some people don't tolerate abrasiveness.

So my suggestion is be less abrasive when pointing out someone faults in thier post or logic or whatever you are being abrasive about. :dunno:

[Itkovian]

Removed.

[papasan9]

I get lots of -rep for pointing out people's stupidity. Like pointing out how their suggestions in posts were actually addressed in the original post, and if they'd bother to read it before telling us all about their suggestions, they'd know it'd already been tried and failed. And it's things like the first bloody post in a thread, too! It's not like someone suggested something that'd been tried and posted about 10 pages back...there were no other suggestions at that point.

I'm a pretty abrasive guy, and I don't tolerate stupidity very well, but I'm far from abusive....and though I don't give a rat's ass about my rep, I do wish that the jackasses who don't like how I say something would lay off the -rep if it meant I'd be autobanned. That's petty and childish. To punish someone because you didn't like their "tone"? Ridiculous.

after reading this i thought about giving you - rep(i didnt). you are right about abrasive. the key to the forums/community is understanding that behind every online persona there is a real person. i dont know if you have a family, but im sure anyone taking this in real life would - rep you. i get - reps when im abrasive.

[Itkovian]

Removed.

[Ichi]

After reading the post that linked, I did find it abrasive. You said you apreciated it but your tone was more of the sarcastic type.

For someone who is new to the comunity and does not have alot of posts. Its hard to tell if someone is being sincere or being a wiseass.

Back to your linked post. I could see geting frustrated if that was the 10th or 20th time you answered it , but seeing that was the second person to offer help and you blast them. While you may have thought you were being nice and polite others didn't so they told you what they tought via the reputaion tool.

As with anything first impressions are tough to change. This is a great community the moderators keep a clean forum (no flame wars).

I don't know what you need to do to make people belive that you should have a good reputation.


ps. The I don't give a rats ass on what people think doens't help as well. (not trying to change you jsut my opinoin.

[Itkovian]

Removed.

[Multiplex]

Pretty funny stuff, thanks for the read. I'll throw in my .02 here since I posted in the linked thread.

As long as you're in negative rep then other users might not to waste their time on you. Dr.Death was nice enough to offer a suggestion to you; that is, take his time to construct a reply. Your response to him was condescending and just plain annoying. I hope other players are warned off by your negative rep; realizing that attempting to help you in the future may result in a childish retort.

Cheers sir!

[juuh77]

If you simply do not care about your rep then why do you keep goin on about it. When it comes to reading post and getting feed back most people don't want a sarcastic response. Why do you care about a flaw as you call it if rep means so little to you. It also seems to me from all the post's you have made that i have read today that all you are looking to do is start arguements. And yes that is my opinon based on the way it reads. And yes i could very well be missunderstanding. I can tell you that your rep has in no way caused me to take your posts that way. Its the way you wrote it that gives people that perception.

[Leadfoot]

Also, Ive got another question. Whats the difference between rep points and rep power.

[Multiplex]

Rep points generate rep power. As your reputation increases, your influence over others reputation increases.

[Itkovian]

Removed.

[juuh77]

No you have missed the point. People put stuff up there and you attach them. Why would anyone need a thread to feel superior. It seems to me that your using the post in the manner in which you are trying to describe everyone else. The way you just came of is childish. You are angry at the fact that people don't agree with you on the subject. We all know there are flaws and we live with them. nothing is infallible. You make it sound as if the rep tool is life or death. as i said above i don't use it to make a choice or descision on post's i read whats there and respond to it. Feel free to pm me with anymore of your comments if you chose not to respond here

[papasan9]

Also, Ive got another question. Whats the difference between rep points and rep power.

if i can put it right, the rep points you get determine the rep power you have. the rep power you have is how many rep points someelse gets +/- when you give it out.

[Leadfoot]

So Im guessing the green bars are your rep power? How many rep points is it for each rep power?

Still got some stuff to get the hang of after being gone for so long.

[papasan9]

The lack of comprehension skills around here astounds me. Either that, many of you simply enjoy intentionally misrepresenting things so you can feel superior. Do some of you even bother to read the posts, or do you simply look at the rep and decide you now know what is being said?

You know what? Just forget it. You're either missing the point entirely, or intentionally misrepresenting what's been said. Either way, it's obvious you're only interesting in picking an arguement, and not discussing the flaws in having such an easily abused tool in the hands of anyone who wants it.

i understand what you are trying to say, everyone else does too i think.

however, in anonymous setting it will get used in many different ways.

so if rep is important to you, i guess just figure out how to get it. if you are getting negative rep, you might evaluate what is getting you the negative rep.

or you could just not care about the rep and continue on.

[papasan9]

So Im guessing the green bars are your rep power? How many rep points is it for each rep power?

Still got some stuff to get the hang of after being gone for so long.

that i dont remember. i think it varies as you get more points.

you can see your rep power number when you log on to the site (represented also by the green bars). you can see your rep points in the user cp.

[Multiplex]

So Im guessing the green bars are your rep power? How many rep points is it for each rep power?

Still got some stuff to get the hang of after being gone for so long.

You can find your actually rep power (how many points you can give/take) on the main page on the bar above the news announcements.

Ah, papasan beat me to it. Disregard :)

[Leadfoot]

So there is no direct relation between rep points and power? As in a set amount of points will not raise your rep power a level?

[Multiplex]

A set amount of reputation points will raise your rep power. It is a set ratio (and can be changed eitherin the DB config or the rep module config for Vbulletin) and you'll have to ask one of the VBulletin superusers here at WiH what it is currently set at.

Hope that helps. :)

[Itkovian]

As it is obvious I'm not going to get a fair shake around here, I'm discontinuing my participation in this thread.

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

As it is obvious I'm not going to get a fair shake around here, I'm discontinuing my participation in this thread.

How are you not getting a "fair shake" around here? People keep giving you neg rep because half your posts are angry complaints/talking down to people.