Oh man..

[Anonymous]

Ok, I dont know how that just happened. I dont know if it ever happens to any of you, but sometimes when im switching guns really fast it shoots a bullet out... for instance, on cbble today, onthe FF server, i bought my guns and had a scout out, wanted to switch to knife to run, and when i switched my scout shot and hit a teammate and i just got banned... Can this get fixed please... that was a complete mistake :(
sorry though, but i honestly did not mean to do that. Thanks
-Bash

[Redy]

One day Ban for giving damage at the spawn.

It's never happened to me, are you using your mouse wheel?

[DF BashU]

no, i press "1" fire to switch to my main gun, "2" fire to switch to pistol etc...

am i banned from the pub server too? tonight is my easy night off and i really wanna play :(

nothing we can do about this?

[Prowler130]

bashu, think maybe you can bind something to quick switch weapon? dont know if you use that already but ive never had a problem with it.....and ill tell ya, that was one unlucky shot lol

[K_Nitrous]

yea type hd_fastswitch 1 in console then you dont have to press fire.. it just changes when you press the number

[dbodenheim]

you cant 1 day ban for killing at team spawn, this is a legitamate problem that WIH needs to look into. It exists. I killed someone with touching no-one, mouse, or keypad, its a lag issue.

[khardbored]

Yeah, this 1 day ban for spawn killing should be done away with.
I've been on countless servers where I've done the same thing, with fastswitch on. It should be a three-strikes you're out. You get kicked, kicked, banned. That will prevent peoples scores from getting too bad (TK'ers victims) and will help prevent uneeded bans.

However, this doesn't fix the problem on our end. I would be pissed if someone spawn killed me, regardless of the reason. However, I've come to find that if I don't do a lot of quick switching during the start of the round, it doesn't happen. So buy your guns/ammo/equipment and wait until you're on the move to switch out.

Works for me everytime.

[((TNT((~*]

I agree with khardbored because what happened to Bashu has happened to me b4 as well. Itchy trigger finger you know. :ak:

[FozzyBear]

Hasn't happened to me yet.

I would think until they find a fix, I wouldn't be looking/aiming at anyone until I get my weapon switched. That way any errant rounds go into the sky or ground.

I think the autoban on spawn TK should still stay. 95%+ of the time it IS intentional.

[Phyxius]

OK people .. you want to examine this?

If you switch your weapon before the freeze time runs out.. YOU WONT SHOOT THE GUN!

so the solution is simple... switch weapons before the freeze time runs out, OR aim away from the person in front of you BEFORE you switch weapons after the freeze time...

Now wasnt that simple? :wallbash:

and Bash.. dont you run from spawn with your knife out? If you did you wouldnt have SHOT somone.... :wallbash:

Dont make excuses for your stupidity, that just shows your ignorance.



Phyx

[DF BashU]

wow, before you completely make yourself look like an idiot, maybe make sure you understand how it happened phyx. It was not ignorance.. i was a typing a message or something at the beginning of the freeze time, so by the time i had bought my scout, the freeze time had run out...
when you have a pistol out and buy your primary weapon, by default (for me at least) the primary weapon will be in my players hand... then as i was running from spawn, with al 16 other players, i was switching to my KNIFE to run to B, since everyone was going their own way, it was some guy who was crossing my path that got shot. It was not ignorance, it was a simple mistake. And i apologized, you dont need to be a dick about it. Aren't you supposed to be old and 'mature' ? I was not making an excuse, i was explaining what happened, ridiculous.

[jwolly2]

Damn, I have NEVER had this happen to me, and I switch weapons all the time while running from spawn (I have been shot at spawn, but my weapon has never fired without reason).

Maybe I'm playing the game all wrong... Maybe this is the reason I stink. :dunno:

Since the same thing doesn't happen to everyone, there must be a way to solve the problem from happening. Like someone else suggested, maybe a config / binding change would prevent it.

[Evol]

I have had accidental misfires at the beginning of a round around half a dozen times. Once I accidentally hit someone, but it was just a leg shot or something else similar.

Is it a 1 day ban for insta-spawn tk? or any damage at all?

[wihadmin]

Tk'ing within X secs at start of round is insta-1-day-ban. We apologize for the inconvenience but this is what is keeping the tards away. If we modify this then you all will be crying about getting tk'd at spawn. So this is the lesser of the 2 evils.

[Redy]

First of all and once again, this forum is for complainants and the admin staff.

We don’t allow tking or intentional issuance of same team damage. During game play there is bound to be unintentional damage. The problem is differentiating between intentional and unintentional issuance of damage. In most instances when issuance of damage occurs at the start of a round, it is intentional and therefor we immediately penalize the player.

Repeated unintentional issuance of same team damage will also be penalized. Not all players possess the skills to play on a friendly fire server.

The friendly fire server is a serious server for serious players. We made it clear when we put up the server, that the rules would be strictly enforced. We are trying to promote a higher quality of game play, a sort of sanctuary from the inexperienced players that frequent the public server. I’m sorry that many of you don’t agree with the penalties, but you’ll just have to take the good with the bad if you want to play without being shot in the back every round.

[Phyxius]

then as i was running from spawn, with al 16 other players, i was switching to my KNIFE to run to B, since everyone was going their own way, it was some guy who was crossing my path that got shot. It was not ignorance, it was a simple mistake.

Bash... Sorry if my reply wasnt "old and mature".. as a matter of fact, it was ME that you shot and I wasnt "crossing your path" I was STANDING STILL! I didnt have a chance to move before I was shot in the back and took 99 health, leaving me with 1 HP for the rest of the round.

Read my previous post and this will never happen to anyone else again... See, even if you did wait to switch weapons until after the freeze time, you still could have aimed away from the person in front of you before switching...

Simple gun safety.. DONT AIM at something you are not ready to KILL!


Phyx

[DF BashU]

You understand how chaotic it can be after everyone spawns 16 players all running into eachother, from my point of view it looked like a guy runnin across my screen that i shot, but maybe it was you in the back round or something. My gun fires like that MAYBE once a day, and im sorry i had to create such a big discussion about this. I have no problem with the one day ban for spawn shooting, i think it is a good policy. That was just a very unfortunate time for something to happen that rarely happens and so i was just seeing if you guys could do anything about. Sorry for takin you to 1 hp phyx, but like i said, it was an accident. I guess i dont really have much else to say, except i'll see you all out there =)

[ChobitzZ]

running with a scout in no scope mode is faster than running with a knife.

[Threat]

Did you check your PM's Chob? :D