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WarMachineAE
10-17-2005, 02:59 PM
With all of us now at a stage where a majority of the unlocks are coming about, what unlock do you guys think has the most significant upgrade over the basic setup?

When I got my first few unlocks, I'd sit around and think about the Pros & Cons forever till I just decided to randomly pick one because I couldn't make up my mind.

Dice & EA(in my view) rounded out the kits so well that no kit stands out as needing to be upgraded first. I found myself saying "Well, if I upgrade the Medic, then I'll have better accuracy and maybe more power to go along with the healing/reviving points" or "With the Engineer upgrade, the shotgun will pack more punch to take'em out".

I started by upgrading the Sniper -> Engineer -> Anti-Tank -> Assault. My favorite has now became the Assault with the G3, when I had never used the Assault in basic setup.
I've heard a lot of guys talking about the PKM with the Support, is it a truly good upgrade?

What do you view as the kit with the greatest improvement over the stock setup? What makes it so superior to the others?

[W33T]STL-JY1
10-17-2005, 03:28 PM
In my opinnion the medic or the engineer was my favorite. That might turn a few heads but I think the Jackhammer is pretty awesome because my aiming isn't the best. If the DAO was fully automatic it would be the best because it has 5 more rounds per clip then the jackhammer. I guess they makeup the difference between AT and engineer in that a direct shot with the Jackhammer is slightly more powerful then the DAO.

It should also be noted that with the AT unlock you still have the sniper AT missle which is awesome on its on right. I've actually begun using the G3 a little more and have begun to like it a lot. THe drawbacks would be 20 round clips, and the chance you might get a noob tube right in the face. THe PKM is also a definite upgrade over the standard support weapon. Just ask Rajan Cajun about that.

DigitalBacon
10-17-2005, 04:01 PM
I just unlocked the PKM yesterday, man that thing is sweeeet!

-]AAC[-Clay
10-17-2005, 04:04 PM
Just when you thought there wouldn't be another weapon unlock thread, #61 pops up.

Search is your friend.

Offy775
10-17-2005, 04:05 PM
Favorite upgrade would have to be the Engineer/Jackhammer. For me it was the second unlock. I play engineer more than any other kit (w/ 150hrs) and the jackhammer just mows dudes down. 7 round mag and 5 reloads is part of the EA balancing act. Nice thing about the DAO-12 is that you can fire a couple rounds and replace them without wasting a new magazine. This game is like a really complex version of "rock, paper, scissors."

:2hammers:

WarMachineAE
10-17-2005, 04:08 PM
Don't you get very little accuracy with the PKM? Sure it packs a lot of punch, but the reason I never used the stock Support is because of the lack of accuracy.

Does the upgrade kit bring along much better accuracy... or does the superior firepower make up for all of it. And yes, I've seen Rajun around a few times but I've never seen him or that gun as a hardcore serious threat, everyone gets lucky here and there with various guns :thumbsup: .

I enjoyed sniping, but that stock setup is just not powerful enough, takes two and sometimes three shots to kill someone and when sniping, you just don't have that kind of time to reload and track down your prey. I figured the upgrade would bring along a little more punch for 1 shot kills, but the real advantage is that you can now shoot through Helicopter/Vehicle windows and kill drivers... but really no power improvement.

I thought I'd upgrade the Medic as one of my first kit unlocks, but I have yet to do so, I'm still iffy on whether it's a good upgrade. I still have the Special Ops/Medic/Support with no upgrades. I was kinda disappointed with the Anti-Tank upgrade, I just don't like it has much as the Engineer.

[W33T] Canadian23
10-17-2005, 05:42 PM
i say g3 is best for its acc and power but let down by clip so single shot is best.

ICameISaw
10-17-2005, 05:50 PM
Don't you get very little accuracy with the PKM? Sure it packs a lot of punch, but the reason I never used the stock Support is because of the lack of accuracy.

Does the upgrade kit bring along much better accuracy... or does the superior firepower make up for all of it. And yes, I've seen Rajun around a few times but I've never seen him or that gun as a hardcore serious threat, everyone gets lucky here and there with various guns :thumbsup: .

I enjoyed sniping, but that stock setup is just not powerful enough, takes two and sometimes three shots to kill someone and when sniping, you just don't have that kind of time to reload and track down your prey. I figured the upgrade would bring along a little more punch for 1 shot kills, but the real advantage is that you can now shoot through Helicopter/Vehicle windows and kill drivers... but really no power improvement.

I thought I'd upgrade the Medic as one of my first kit unlocks, but I have yet to do so, I'm still iffy on whether it's a good upgrade. I still have the Special Ops/Medic/Support with no upgrades. I was kinda disappointed with the Anti-Tank upgrade, I just don't like it has much as the Engineer.

I really sucked with the PKM until I used it more and learned that you need to go prone (unless the guy is 10 feet away) and right click for the rifle sight. It is devestating and has a 100 round mag!

Don't have the Medic gun. Used it a few times...great on single fire for long distance...lacking in punch and loose in the pattern on full auto (just what I've observed).

The jackhammer is pretty sweet (not as sweet as the DAO-12) and is a great unlock if you plan to start engineering.

But since you haven't unlocked Special Ops...that is the one to get. The G36C is super accurate (I snipe at long distances with it) and almost as stout as the AK101. I love that little gun (tearing up). It is a better unlock then the PKM, Jackhammer, and the Medic Gun. After that you should unlock the jackhammer-->then PKM--> then the medic gun

Just my opinion :ak:

JKRMAUI
10-17-2005, 06:06 PM
Best "Over stock" upgrade is the DOA. I have all but the Jackhammer but I wish I had taken that insted of the L85. The G3 is a rocken gun, but the 20 round mag is a bit low. The PKM is Awsome, if you know how to use it which is the case with any gun. The G36 is a solid unlcok, end of story. The M95 is another Unlock that is kinda hit or miss "no pun intenned" I like it but others may tell you it sucks. The L85 is a little Bulimic, I'd take an AK47 or AK101 over it any day but the full atomatic makes it better then the M16. As I said the Jackhammer is a Solid Unlock, how ever a combat Engi doesn't seem right sometimes. :dunno:

ICameISaw
10-17-2005, 06:12 PM
Best "Over stock" upgrade is the DOA. I have all but the Jackhammer but I wish I had taken that insted of the L85. The G3 is a rocken gun, but the 20 round mag is a bit low. The PKM is Awsome, if you know how to use it which is the case with any gun. The G36 is a solid unlcok, end of story. The M95 is another Unlock that is kinda hit or miss "no pun intenned" I like it but others may tell you it sucks. The L85 is a little Bulimic, I'd take an AK47 or AK101 over it any day but the full atomatic makes it better then the M16. As I said the Jackhammer is a Solid Unlock, how ever a combat Engi doesn't seem right sometimes. :dunno:

The DAO-12 is the best!!! It was my first unlock and when I became proficient with it look out. Tank killer and CQB destroyer!!! :flamethrower:

JKRMAUI
10-17-2005, 06:18 PM
It sure as hell beats out those sissy SMGs

ICameISaw
10-17-2005, 06:26 PM
It sure as hell beats out those sissy SMGs :rockon:

JKRMAUI
10-17-2005, 06:35 PM
But the best is blasting some Bunnyhopper outa the air with a G3. Noob tubing Bunnyhoppers are anoying. I was on another sever and a guy killed me doing that and called me a Newbe. So i broke out the M95 and went Bunny Hunting. Then he called me a hacker after the 8th time I shot him in mid jump. :rockon: DON'T NOOB TUBE!! EVERY TIME YOU DO GOD KILLS A KITTEN!!!

Multiplex
10-17-2005, 06:50 PM
The DAO is clearly the best improvement. The SMGs are absolutely pathetic weapons. The DAO makes the kit viable for solo play

WarMachineAE
10-17-2005, 08:59 PM
I actually use the SMG more than the DAO. I dunno, just haven't liked the DAO that much.

Does the Special Ops upgrade bring along much more power... or just a lot better accuracy? I also heard you can fire like... 200 rounds a minute or something with it?

If you had to choose between the Support and Special Ops unlock kits... what would you go with? I doubt I go with the Medic upgrade, but I dunno between the two, which would be the better.

DigitalBacon
10-17-2005, 09:34 PM
Spec Ops all the way...the G36C is incredible + you get C4!! :yuck:

[W33T] JimmytehHand8
10-17-2005, 09:39 PM
It alll depends on what classes you play most. Go for those unlocks first, then the others.

SSG-Martin
10-17-2005, 09:46 PM
My Favorite unlock is the Jenna Jameson unlock. I mean who would have thought at 20,000 points my unlock is a hot porn star.

Yay for Jenna!!

WarMachineAE
10-17-2005, 11:46 PM
Well I never played Assault until I got the upgrade. In all stock kits, I primarily played as sniper, even though the sniper kit was the first I got, I never use it anymore.

I went for the kits I play most, but I've been jumping around, liking one more than another. I wanna get the Special Ops, but a lot of people have been talking about the power of the PKM, plus you can get the few bonus points for supplying your buddies.

[W33T] JimmytehHand8
10-18-2005, 12:25 AM
My Favorite unlock is the Jenna Jameson unlock. I mean who would have thought at 20,000 points my unlock is a hot porn star.

Yay for Jenna!!

I couldn't stop laughing after I read this Martin :lol: :rockon:

ICameISaw
10-18-2005, 07:51 AM
I actually use the SMG more than the DAO. I dunno, just haven't liked the DAO that much.

Does the Special Ops upgrade bring along much more power... or just a lot better accuracy? I also heard you can fire like... 200 rounds a minute or something with it?

If you had to choose between the Support and Special Ops unlock kits... what would you go with? I doubt I go with the Medic upgrade, but I dunno between the two, which would be the better.

It fires at about the same rate as the M4...but with more damage. It is extremely accurate. Once you get it, climb on top of a building and practice shooting guys at long distance (short bursts)...you will love this gun.

Spec Ops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rockon:

Rajun Cajun
10-18-2005, 08:35 AM
My Favorite unlock is the Jenna Jameson unlock. I mean who would have thought at 20,000 points my unlock is a hot porn star.

Yay for Jenna!!

Liar

kippendrecht
10-18-2005, 09:11 AM
those 2 are my favorits, so choosing is a bit hard, but when u can come at mid/close range with the PKM its f#cking deadly. The special ops is very accurate, but from up close and at atomatic ur clip is gone in a sec. so then u have to reload, and wile doing this ur weak. but it just depends on wath kind of map u play, in the city I always run around with my PKM and in a more open map with the G3 of spedial ops. overal I would say the PKM. but don't unlock the medic! it was my first unlock, and it sucks, accurate with 1 bullet, but when ur shooting auto. the bullets are heading 2 meters of target :crazy:

BTW, I unlocked the G3, special ops, PKM, medic and sniper rifle
I'm not in for those shotguns...

deathcar
10-18-2005, 11:05 AM
I'm pretty experienced with all the kits and unlocks except for engineer's jackhammer. What you consider to unlock should be based first and foremost on what kits you like to play. For me, that is just about every kit as I am almost always working close in with a squad. What kit I'll pick to play with at any given time will be what I think will better balance out the squad (unless the squad leader is asking for something in particular) and might not always reflect what I'm best at.
That being said, the biggest upgrades in my opinion are as follows in order.
1. DAO - Very powerful at close range, but almost useless past about 5 meters or so. While it is certainly not the most balanced gun in the game it is the best upgrade in my opinion because it replaces what are very limited SMGs in most situations, though I will still go back to the SMGs in very open maps. The DAO is a great gun to have in a tight knit squad. While your buddies keep you covered at medium and long range, you assure they won't get capped close up.
2. G36c - This is probably the best all-around gun in the game. Extremely accurate! The lack of recoil is what makes this gun so effective. Although it has the same damage as the M4 you will find yourself scoring rapid multiple hits and bringing down enemies very quick at medium and long range. Its rapid rate of fire also makes you a good contender in a firefight at close range as well... When in close however you should try to be as accurate as possible. Aim for the head and chest and you'll come out on top most of the time.
3. G3 - This gun is just mean... Its about as accurate as the m16/m4 but with the power of the AKs. Its very realiable at all ranges but the 20rnds mag goes quicker than some might think.
4. PKM - I have really mixed feelings about this gun, sometimes I love it, other times I hate it. The one thing it is great for however is suppression fire! While laying this gun down on an enemy position your squad mates will have no trouble picking off hiding enemies while taking fewer shots themselves. Some people say its fairly accurate while sighted and tap-firing. In my experience I really can't decide. Usually however, I will only use it while in a full squad of players I feel confident and safe with. In a good squad the PKM is fantastic in the right hands. Up close it is pretty evil, and I've had very good luck assaulting at medium range with it.
5. M95 - In most situations this gun is not very good in supporting squad roles so I don't use it that much. However, I will go to it very quickly in the right situations. The M95 is the hardest hitting gun in the game (though, still not hard enough for a .50 BMG in my opinion). When defending a flag with good cover, a group of 3 or so well hidden snipers can hold back 2 squads of assaulting troops just so long as there are a few other kits close by helping take down the few troops that do get by. It is also a good gun to have when your job is to guard the artillery. Alot of people get down on snipers in BF2, and its true there are WAYYY more sniper lone wolfs in BF2 who hurt their team more than help them, but when used properly they can be a valuable asset along with the m95. Another NOTHING feels better than dropping a Humvee driver through the glass on the move.
6. LA85 - 75% of the time, I hate this gun. It is usually worthless. I play as a medic frequently, and as my second unlock I was very excited about it. Turned out however to be the biggest let down. At times it is nice to have the scoped sight, but thats only when I can actually hit the target. Even taking my time on shots at longer ranges, it can be very frustrating. Some people say this is only due to the trickiness of the sight. While I am taking these issues into consideration as I am playing with it, I am generally unsatisfied with it at this point. If anyone dissagrees with my take on the LA85 I would love to hear some words of wisdom.

kippendrecht
10-18-2005, 11:54 AM
I agree about the LA85, it was my first unlock, but it dissepointed me!

ICameISaw
10-18-2005, 12:34 PM
Jenna Jameson.....Face :thumbsup: .....Stuff :thumbsdown:

ICameISaw
10-18-2005, 12:35 PM
I'm pretty experienced with all the kits and unlocks except for engineer's jackhammer.....

I agree with the order except the Medic gun...jackhammer has to come before it.

Multiplex
10-18-2005, 12:37 PM
I think that all three standard shotguns are better than the Jackhammer. Its pretty easy to rack up a ton of kills with them... and the jackhammer seems lame when compared to the other shotties or the DAO.

The L85 is the most over-hyped gun in the game though. I think the thing is terrible... the way it drifts when fired is beyond annoying and it has almost no punch to it. Other than for use as a sniper rifle... I despise it.

Rajun Cajun
10-18-2005, 12:40 PM
I've seen Rajun around a few times but I've never seen him or that gun as a hardcore serious threat, everyone gets lucky here and there with various guns :thumbsup: .


All I can tell you is this. I have over 100 hours and over 5000 kills with the light machine guns with the bulk of them coming from the PKM, my first unlock, in my hands. Luck...maybe so, who knows, but I have been lucky 5013 times as of 10/18. :hehehe:

The gun works for me...it's not for everyone.

ICameISaw
10-18-2005, 12:44 PM
I've seen Rajun around a few times but I've never seen him or that gun as a hardcore serious threat, everyone gets lucky here and there with various guns :thumbsup: .


All I can tell you is this. I have over 100 hours and over 5000 kills with the light machine guns with the bulk of them coming from the PKM, my first unlock, in my hands. Luck...maybe so, who knows, but I have been lucky 5013 times as of 10/18. :hehehe:

The gun works for me...it's not for everyone.

I'm going for my Veterans Support Badge so I've become a lot better with the PKM...it's not for all, but I've grown to like it. :ak:

WarMachineAE
10-18-2005, 01:35 PM
I'm just playing with ya Rajun! Your my boy!

Haha, well I'm glad I haven't unlocked the Medic yet. I have always had mixed thoughts about it, but now I don't think I'll ever get it... well it'll be the last one.

I'm hearing the same thing here as I have on the server and what not about the PKM. Very mixed reviews, some people... like Rajun... Love it and dominate with it, while others do not enjoy it very much.

I'll probably go with the Special Ops upgrade for the next unlock, but does it pack as much power as the G3? What gun between those two do you like more?

Rajun Cajun
10-18-2005, 01:47 PM
[quote="WarMachineAE"]I'm just playing with ya Rajun! Your my boy!
quote]

I know...just making my point that it works for me and not everyone else. I have even plucked people off long range. Single shot... tap, tap, tap. It's the new sniper rifle :hehehe: Haven't you heard?

StevenNevets
10-18-2005, 02:53 PM
Including the upgraded weapon plus the rest of the kits abilitys

1. medic
2.support
3.assualt

(just my opionion)

ICameISaw
10-18-2005, 03:05 PM
I'm just playing with ya Rajun! Your my boy!

Haha, well I'm glad I haven't unlocked the Medic yet. I have always had mixed thoughts about it, but now I don't think I'll ever get it... well it'll be the last one.

I'm hearing the same thing here as I have on the server and what not about the PKM. Very mixed reviews, some people... like Rajun... Love it and dominate with it, while others do not enjoy it very much.

I'll probably go with the Special Ops upgrade for the next unlock, but does it pack as much power as the G3? What gun between those two do you like more?

It doesn't have the punch of the G3...but it has a 30 round mag. It is an assault grade weapon but with great accuracy...and you get the special ops goodies with it :hehehe:

deathcar
10-18-2005, 03:23 PM
I'll probably go with the Special Ops upgrade for the next unlock, but does it pack as much power as the G3? What gun between those two do you like more?

About the G36c versus G3 issue:

The thing about the G36c that makes it so good which most people don't understand unless they have unlocked it(which included myself) is that its recoil is so low, plus its very accurate. What this translates into is that you can take shot after shot at medium and even long range and score a hit with almost every shot. In geek speak, the deviation from where you pointed your sight the computer calculates for the G36c is very very low = great accuracy. Furthermore you don't get as serious a modifier penalty after the first shot which would force you with some guns to wait a second before firing your next shot to attain the same amount of accuracy. The recoil I am talking about goes beyond the recoil you actually "see" in the game and is more about the deviation modifier the server calculates for your shot to score it as a hit or not regardless of whether or not your sights are actually perfectly sighted-in on your target.
The G3 on the other hand scores more damage per shot but at the cost of a slightly higher single shot deviation per shot and a much higher recoil modifier deviation. Bear in mind that this recoil deviation will effect you whether in semi-auto mode or full auto so to achieve optimal accuracy you must wait 1 sec. or so for the recoil modifier to be eliminated. The best way to think of the G3 is having the M4 (spec ops) or medics M16 accuracy with the AK's punch and your somewhere very close to how the G3 handles.

As far as which one I like more, its a toss up because they both do me about equally as well. Its having the C-4 packs however that sell me on the G36c being a better unlock.

ICameISaw
10-18-2005, 03:27 PM
I'll probably go with the Special Ops upgrade for the next unlock, but does it pack as much power as the G3? What gun between those two do you like more?

About the G36c versus G3 issue:

The thing about the G36c that makes it so good which most people don't understand unless they have unlocked it(which included myself) is that its recoil is so low, plus its very accurate. What this translates into is that you can take shot after shot at medium and even long range and score a hit with almost every shot. In geek speak, the deviation from where you pointed your sight the computer calculates for the G36c is very very low = great accuracy. Furthermore you don't get as serious a modifier penalty after the first shot which would force you with some guns to wait a second before firing your next shot to attain the same amount of accuracy. The recoil I am talking about goes beyond the recoil you actually "see" in the game and is more about the deviation modifier the server calculates for your shot to score it as a hit or not regardless of whether or not your sights are actually perfectly sighted-in on your target.
The G3 on the other hand scores more damage per shot but at the cost of a slightly higher single shot deviation per shot and a much higher recoil modifier deviation. Bear in mind that this recoil deviation will effect you whether in semi-auto mode or full auto so to achieve optimal accuracy you must wait 1 sec. or so for the recoil modifier to be eliminated. The best way to think of the G3 is having the M4 (spec ops) or medics M16 accuracy with the AK's punch and your somewhere very close to how the G3 handles.

As far as which one I like more, its a toss up because they both do me about equally as well. Its having the C-4 packs however that sell me on the G36c being a better unlock.

to put it simply... :mrgreen:

WarMachineAE
10-18-2005, 11:22 PM
I love the G3, but on rare occasions I'll play Special Ops and I enjoy the accuracy of the stock setup. I've always had great luck with the G3 in distance situations. I rarely have problems with missing with several bullets, so that's why I'm questioning the Special Ops. Several of you have said the same thing about it... superior accuracy to the G3, So I have to take your word for it.

Does the G36c pack good punch and hold it's own in close combat like the G3? That's where I really like the G3, I can mow down 3 sometimes 4 guys on one clip if up close. I know the G36c has a few more rounds per clip, but that's not a huge deal to me... sure I run out of ammo a lot with G3, but hey, thats what you PKM/Support guys are for.

LawyerNinja
10-19-2005, 06:57 AM
Yeah the G36C (i think that is what it is called)has a high rte of fire and good accuracy just like the L8 but dont expect to kill some1 in 3 shots like the G3

ICameISaw
10-19-2005, 10:29 AM
I love the G3, but on rare occasions I'll play Special Ops and I enjoy the accuracy of the stock setup. I've always had great luck with the G3 in distance situations. I rarely have problems with missing with several bullets, so that's why I'm questioning the Special Ops. Several of you have said the same thing about it... superior accuracy to the G3, So I have to take your word for it.

Does the G36c pack good punch and hold it's own in close combat like the G3? That's where I really like the G3, I can mow down 3 sometimes 4 guys on one clip if up close. I know the G36c has a few more rounds per clip, but that's not a huge deal to me... sure I run out of ammo a lot with G3, but hey, thats what you PKM/Support guys are for.

It has a little more accuracy, but a little less power. You get a 30 round mag though. It is a solid unlock!

WarMachineAE
10-19-2005, 01:42 PM
Now between the Engineer and Anti-Tank upgrade... which shotgun is better? They are both semi-automatic but it seems like one day, I'll rock everyone with the Engineer, one blast kill. Other days, it seems like the Engineer won't kill anyone but the Anti-Tank kit is. I always flip back and forth between these, just going with the flow, I don't have much background on the weapons, so I really don't know what has more power, better accuracy, etc.

ICameISaw
10-19-2005, 04:38 PM
Now between the Engineer and Anti-Tank upgrade... which shotgun is better? They are both semi-automatic but it seems like one day, I'll rock everyone with the Engineer, one blast kill. Other days, it seems like the Engineer won't kill anyone but the Anti-Tank kit is. I always flip back and forth between these, just going with the flow, I don't have much background on the weapons, so I really don't know what has more power, better accuracy, etc.

The anti-tank is more effective for me becasue of the bunny hopping that goes on...it has more capacity. The Jackhammer is full-auto, not semi. You will need to reload after every kill.

deathcar
10-19-2005, 07:26 PM
The anti-tank is more effective for me becasue of the bunny hopping that goes on...it has more capacity. The Jackhammer is full-auto, not semi. You will need to reload after every kill.

Yeah but the Jackhammer is magazine fed though right? I can't remember because I don't have it unlocked and have probably only got to play with it twice.
I really love the DAO, the only thing about it that gets me however is the reload time... If you blast through your 12 rounds it takes like 10 minutes to fill it back up - loads one shot at a time. PLUS, whats really frustrating about it is once you start loading it, you can't stop till its full. Meaning: if halfway through the load, you've got nine shots ready to go and some MEC steps around a corner you can't stop reloading to blast him one. Instead you have to switch to a different weapon quick and back to your DAO and if your lucky, by the time you whip it back out, you may have a chance to fire one or two rounds into him. Aside from that I LOVE IT!!!

Offy775
10-19-2005, 07:54 PM
Yes, Jackhammer is magazine feed.

LawyerNinja
10-19-2005, 08:08 PM
i dont think the JackHammer would be a reall weapon it would be too well .........stupid.

WarMachineAE
10-19-2005, 08:55 PM
I personally like the Engineer gun more. Dunno, but I enjoy the Jackhammer. I seem to have a better 'flow' with it. Seems like I have to load 4 rounds into a guy with the DAO before I get a kill. While the Jackhammer will only take me a shot or two to bring someone down. Plus, that DAO reload time kills me... I just can't stand to stay hidden for 15 minutes while the gun reloads.

Shark
10-20-2005, 04:12 AM
I got in order the M-95, PKM and G3. I rarely use the M-95 unless someone keeps killing me then I'll go hunting, or if thoe other sides snipers are starting to be a pita. I have not used the PKM much yet to figure out it sighting, I got it namely to kill the choppers, which it does nicely. As to the G3, I love it! I stay on single shot, and in most cases two shots and your dead, like others have said, the 20 round 'zine sucks, I always forget to keep a eye on it and there for I am always dieing and lol, I end up with just one shot left when I round a corner and a usmc is there :jester:
I picked up the medic unklock and was not impressed with it, but I did find that shotgun with the big round 'zine, and that kicked some arse in kirkland around the two flags by the usmc base, one blast one kill, up front and personal :yaya: as they run around a corner at me.

Offy775
10-20-2005, 04:28 AM
i dont think the JackHammer would be a reall weapon it would be too well .........stupid.

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh10-e.htm

Ummm...it may be stupid(in your opinion), but it's real. :fechtduell:

Multiplex
10-20-2005, 05:51 AM
i dont think the JackHammer would be a reall weapon it would be too well .........stupid.

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh10-e.htm

Ummm...it may be stupid(in your opinion), but it's real. :fechtduell:

After reading the design and firing action description there... and seeing as how no one has placed a significant order for these... I'd say that LawyerNinja is right on the money (RE: stupid). :thumbsup:

Shark
10-20-2005, 06:43 AM
I just unlocked the G36C, I'll se how this is in a bit, gotta feed the kids breakfast for some reason, darn meals are inturupting my gaming time :jester:

ICameISaw
10-20-2005, 08:59 AM
I wonder why EA didn't make it a 10 shot like the real one?

Offy775
10-20-2005, 12:59 PM
Gee, then maybe it wouldn't be stupid anymore??? :puke:

JKRMAUI
10-20-2005, 08:50 PM
I got all the Unlcoks but the Jackhammer, If I could trade in that damn L85 for it I would I have good luck with the DAO and Jackhammer. The G3 was my first unlock. I don't regret it but I could of spent it better. I LOVE THE PKM, end of story "just a little FYI the PKM does more Damage per shot then the G3 +it has a 100 round mag makes it insanly leathel in the hands of some on who knows how to use it" The DAO is a good unlock but it does take a while to reload.....and in combat it takes even longer :wallbash: As for the G3 Acurcy I have mixed feelings. It's not as persice as an M16, that I can be sure of how ever it't not that bad. The 36c is "in my opion" is a hell of a weapon. Super Accurate, doing good damage makes it one of the most useful weapons in the Game. It takes about 3-4 shots to drop a Healthy target but with the G36c it's easy. As for the L85 I THINK IT IS THE BIGGEST RIP OFF WEAPON IN THE DAMN GAME!! It's not a Game Upgrade it only better then the M16 because it does a bit more damage and is fully atou. But I'd never take it over an AK101 or AK47. The M95 is an excelent weapon in the Hands of a Skilled Sniper. Any one whoes ever Played Sniper tag with Greall can testify. I personaly Love sniping. It gives the most statisying Kills. But I guess it all depends on your experiance in Game and with teh weapons and playing style. :thumbsup:


PS: EVERY TIME YOU BUNNY HOP AND NOOB TUBE SOME ONE GOD KILLS A KITTEN

LawyerNinja
10-20-2005, 09:03 PM
the G3 Acurracy can hit anything if you are prone and still well matter afact any gun is really accurate if you are prone and still......
but since it only takes a 3 shots to kill some1 with the G3 its well worth the unlock

WarMachineAE
10-20-2005, 09:47 PM
Yeah, I love the G3, but I really want to try the PKM and the G36c. I do a great job with accuracy of the guns, so I don't think that'll be a big problem. I pick people off quite often with the G3. With the stock Assault kit, you get the grenade launcher also, which is a great offset to the gun. With the upgrade though, all you get is the body armor pretty much... I rarely go through and throw out the smoke grenade, cause that only draws more attention to your area. I'm so confused on whether to do the PKM or the G36c! The G36c is getting consistent reviews of being a solid all around gun, but others are saying the PKM is extrodinary and others say it's useless. It's one extreme to the other on reviews.

deathcar
10-21-2005, 07:42 AM
I'm so confused on whether to do the PKM or the G36c!
They are both good guns but since you play mostly as a squad leader the G36c would probably be the better choice. To use the PKM effectively you have to be closer than you'd normally want to playing as a squad leader to get kills. As a result, I'd think you'd tend to get killed more often than you or your squad would want you to. On the other hand, having a squad leader who can resupply and lay down suppresion fire is always very handy. I'd go for the G36c

ICameISaw
10-21-2005, 08:32 AM
Yeah, I love the G3, but I really want to try the PKM and the G36c. I do a great job with accuracy of the guns, so I don't think that'll be a big problem. I pick people off quite often with the G3. With the stock Assault kit, you get the grenade launcher also, which is a great offset to the gun. With the upgrade though, all you get is the body armor pretty much... I rarely go through and throw out the smoke grenade, cause that only draws more attention to your area. I'm so confused on whether to do the PKM or the G36c! The G36c is getting consistent reviews of being a solid all around gun, but others are saying the PKM is extrodinary and others say it's useless. It's one extreme to the other on reviews.

Well next time you are on the sever and see ICameISawIBLewSh*tUp, talk to me...or join my squad. I will provide the unlock for you and you can try it out. Warning...the PKM will seem like crap the first time you play with it. You must go prone and I use the rifle sight. Short burst are devastating at even long distances.

WarMachineAE
10-21-2005, 11:10 PM
Aight, but I never go another squad, unless it's necessity. First thing I do is launch PowerHouse squad. That'd definately be awesome if you could let me try out the kit. I never thought of that! Try before you buy! So ya'll think the G36c would be the better suited upgrade between the PKM ang G36 right? I know Rajun will disagree... but I like how you pointed out the Squad Leader perspective of things DeathCar. Like you've seen, I'll get in there and bully with the enemies, but yet, I would like to stay on the out skirts of the mass brawl so my guys can spawn off me. That's my problem with the G3, I see all these enemies running around, and I hate sittin there attempting to pick'em off, so I just rush in and waste a few, then turn around and run back into hiding. Seeing it from that view makes the G36c seem like a much better upgrade than the PKM.