Map Rotation

[APOC]

I figure it might help out a little due to the fact that all of the newly realeased maps are all together and those are probably the least favorite(not all but some assult and compound) so could we maybe just change it up with some of the older maps breaking up the newer ones?

APOC

[SneakOne]

Yes good idea, I'm having problems going from inferno to assault for some reason, I seem to crash while it loads :thumbsdown:

[wihadmin]

Why don't you guys agree on a new map rotation and I'll change it for you.

[APOC]

Ok This topic is now Post new Map rotations to replace the old one.

APOC

[bman65]

Begin rotation

Prodigy
Tides
Aztec
Italy
Train
Piranesi
Cobble
Dust2
Office
Chateau

End rotation

Yes I know I left several maps (dust, havana, compound, port, inferno, assault) off that I would not miss one bit.

[sanoske]

Prodigy
Tides
Dust
Aztec
Italy
Train
Port
Piranesi
Cobble
Inferno
Dust2
Office
Chateau


i just added Dust and Port and Inferno. but havana, please no havana. i curse the person who made havana....

[APOC]

Prodigy
Tides
Aztec
Italy
Train
Port
Dust
Piranesi
Havanna (Got to have it)
Cobble
Inferno
Dust2
Office
Chateau

APOC

Edited: Aztec and Dust now Separated

[Monochrome]

i for one enjoy most of the maps. except port. for some goddamn reason port lags my computer like a mofo. its the only map that does it too, and fiddling with the video settings doesn't seem to help very much. havana i find is very fun as both teams, don't know why you guys hate it so much (TMP!). compound i enjoy for my scout whoring, as well as dust and aztec. i really have no problems with any maps, except port :upyours:

[Tykwer]

i vote having all the maps, just seperate dust and aztec. the only good reason for those two maps being next to each other is to see all the hipocritical regulars who are so concerned with stats they will go ct on both maps. usually it's same teams for those two maps.
as much as i hate aztec, i want every single map in the rotation so we dont get tired of the good maps and any of them can be loads of fun if people act more selflessly.

[Mad5cout]

I actually enjoy some of the new maps. Lets face it, all of the maps are weighted to one team if you get right down to it. Some more than others. I like the new maps becuase i get sick of the same old thing (*cough* custom maps are awesome *cough*)

office
chataeu
dust 2
compound
port
piranesi
Italy
Aztec
Train
Proidigy
Havanna
Assault
Inferno

BTW everyone Tides blows.

Hell just leave the rotation as is. :thumbsup:

OR add in some customs *greedily rubs hands togther* :ban_dance01:

[FozzyBear]

Is there a way to tell which maps are the most populated most of the time?

I personally despise Aztec, Compound, and Inferno.

I agree with leaving all the maps in, but make the least popular ones well spaced out.

[Blis]

I love aztec although admitedly i almost always go ct on it if the server is busy.The reason for this is that i just cant handle being in a team full of people that camp spawn.When you get in a t side that is prepared to rush double doors i think it can be great fun.Same goes for dust and prodigy.

I also find that you can get really good games on inferno so long as the teams are balanced properly.Same goes for coumpoud,havanna,train and chateu.

Assault is fun in small doses but the games just go on for far too long.If possible i think it would be better if the time limit till map change could be lowered on this map.

I really dont mind what the rotation is so long as port,assault,compound and havanna are separated.

[Monochrome]

assualt-t
dust-ct
tides-t
italy-t
prodigy-ct
havana-t
dust2-t
inferno-ct
office-t
compound-t
cobble-ct
port-t
chateau-t
aztec-ct
piranesi-t
train-t

assualt is balance out by dust right after it. i tried to label each with what i believe is the team that wins more often on each map. some are more balanced than others, but i'm going by the resuts of our server. interestingly enough, ct's have won more on havana and chateau according to pyscostats. i also tried to balance out longer range maps next to more close quarters fighting maps.

[Kev Kanos]

I dont have a map rotation in mind but I love assult and I havent even played it as a t yet. It was always my favorite even back in the old 1.6 days. Keep the new maps. I would have to say bloodmasters rotation is the one to go for. He looks like he put alot of thought into it.

[Blis]

Blood's list looks good to me aswell.

[DemonEyes]

Yea thats a pretty good set up there blood. If we can't have any customs :bawling: then mixing it up like that is the only other option I guess.

[Phenix]

assualt-t
dust-ct
tides-t
italy-t
prodigy-ct
havana-t
dust2-t
inferno-ct
office-t
compound-t
cobble-ct
port-t
chateau-t
aztec-ct
piranesi-t
train-t


I like this as well :thumbsup:

[The Leviathon]

dudes, chateau is most definitely won more by ct, at least whenever im there to see it! i also love ct on havana, but maybe im alone on that.

i suggest

aztec
havana
chateau
office

restart j/k :yaya:


seriously my list would be

dust2 -bomb/diffuse
office -hostage
chateau -bomb/diffuse
inferno -bomb/diffuse
port -bomb/diffuse
italy -hostage
piranesi -bomb/diffuse
prodigy -bomb/diffuse
aztec -bomb/diffuse
havana -hostage
dust -bomb/diffuse
cobble -bomb/diffuse
assault -hostage
train -bomb/diffuse
compound -hostage
tides -bomb/diffuse

wow, there sure a lot more bomb maps huh? i put dust2 and office at the top since the start of the rotation gets played more due to random server restarts, dust2 and office are the most universally liked maps (by the cs community, donno if thats true about us WiH folks)

[The Leviathon]

once they finally remake all the old maps we should reorganize again
for those of you who dont know or dont remember, heres the maps they havent yet done:

cs_backalley
cs_militia
cs_siege
cs_747
as_oilrig
de_vertigo
de_survivor
de_torn
de_storm
de_nuke

and i dont remember if
de_vegas and
as_tundra
were official maps

(for those of you that dont know 'as' is a third type of map--assassination
were one of the cts was designated Vip, had 200 armor and just 1 reserve clip for his pistol and couldnt buy any equipment, cts had to get em to evac and t's had to prevent it.

as you can see, this is quite a few maps (only oilrig, militia, nuke, 747, and vertigo were particularly popular) so at the current rate of valve progress, these maps should all be out at about the same time they'll originally claim to be releasing half life 3 (which could be never)

lazy bastards.

[APOC]

I vote for bloods rotation.

APOC

[jason bourne]

bloodmaster's rotation sounds good.

[bman65]

I like blood's rotation. :thumbsup:

[SneakOne]

Blood's is good, I disagree with chateau being a t map though

[sanoske]

yeah i think i will vote for bloodmasters rotation.

[wihadmin]

Alright. Bloodmaster's rotation will be implemented on the server this weekend. Thanks guys! :thumbsup:

[Monochrome]

wow, i actually did something right.

wee for me! :jester:

[APOC]

Thanks WIHadmin.

APOC

[z3speed4me]

YAY blood....now stop sniping me!

[The Leviathon]

looks like i got owned :yuck:

[wihadmin]

Map cycle has been updated according to Bloodmaster's list.

:thumbsup:

[Tykwer]

Please, for all that is good and decent, change the map rotation to it's full glory and seperate dust and aztec from one another while you're at it.
This stunted map cycle is gruelling(especially for auto-assigners). Militia's an alright map, but i want em all.

[Prowler130]

specially cbble

[Grim_Scythe]

omgzors no miltia so laggy....(lazy to lower resolution)

where did assault, inferno, prodigy, compound go?

Those are awesome......(if people listen).....

[FiLTHY_SNiPER]

looks like a good rotation :thumbsup:


@Levi: Don't forget CS_Thunder, the dam one.

[Tykwer]

looks like a good rotation :thumbsup:


@Levi: Don't forget CS_Thunder, the dam one.

that rotation was made long ago, but it was a good one.
blood, you should make an updated rotation including the new maps.
but wether blood makes a new rotation, or not, all the maps should be put back in the rotation.
crotch rot, where are you?!?! you're our only hope!

[FiLTHY_SNiPER]

I think all the maps should go in except de_Dust :p

[Vash]

I think all the maps should go in except de_Dust :p

And Aztec. And Compound.

[wihadmin]

I'm thinking of removing all the maps from the rotation since for every map, there's someone out there that hates it with a passion. So now, when you join the server, you'll just hangs. :yaya: :D

[Saur]

I was readin' on Steam that they might actually default turbophysics, so yay that we have it set there already.

<3 Saur

[FiLTHY_SNiPER]

I'm thinking of removing all the maps from the rotation since for every map, there's someone out there that hates it with a passion. So now, when you join the server, you'll just hangs. :yaya: :D

Haha, u ass :P

[Tykwer]

I was readin' on Steam that they might actually default turbophysics, so yay that we have it set there already.

<3 Saur

maybe they'll put in the effort to fixing it then? i know, they wont, but they REALLY should.

[karl_58sow]

I think all the maps should go in except de_Dust :p

And Aztec. And Compound.

And Havana. And Chateau.

[bman65]

I don't see anything wrong with chateau.

[CrockD]

What is the current map rotation?

The only maps I seem to come across now are Dust, Dust2, Militia, Chateau (A lot!!), Havana and Piranesi.

[Vash]

I think we should go back to the original map rotation minus the crap maps(i.e. Aztec, Dust 2, Compound, Havana etc.). And replace them with quality custom maps. This has been suggested several times by regs and I think it's a good idea. Of course final say is to the admins.

[Blis]

I realy dont get why so many people hate aztec.I enjoy playing both sides of it.

[Tykwer]

I think we should go back to the original map rotation minus the crap maps(i.e. Aztec, Dust 2, Compound, Havana etc.). And replace them with quality custom maps. This has been suggested several times by regs and I think it's a good idea. Of course final say is to the admins.

no. first of all, as crotch has said, everyone has a map they hate. i mean some one hates chat! the only way to please everyone is to have all the maps and hold your tounge when the map you hate rolls around. and what makes office good? the fact that it isnt aztec. by playing the bad maps, the good maps are even MORE pleasurable by simple comparison. i mean i hate aztec with a passion, but it's not so bad when it doesnt come up every sixth map. with ALL the maps in the rotation, the map you hate only comes up every 1 or 2 hours.

edit: oh yeah, and aztec is worth having just so when the terrorists DO whoop the cts every round, it feels REALLY really good

[CrockD]

I agree with Tykwer, I don't think any maps should be excluded. Since i've been back I haven't seen Prodigy, Port, Compound or Inferno once which is a pity because I think I was one of the only people who actually liked all of them.

[Vash]

I think we should go back to the original map rotation minus the crap maps(i.e. Aztec, Dust 2, Compound, Havana etc.). And replace them with quality custom maps. This has been suggested several times by regs and I think it's a good idea. Of course final say is to the admins.

no. first of all, as crotch has said, everyone has a map they hate. i mean some one hates chat! the only way to please everyone is to have all the maps and hold your tounge when the map you hate rolls around. and what makes office good? the fact that it isnt aztec. by playing the bad maps, the good maps are even MORE pleasurable by simple comparison. i mean i hate aztec with a passion, but it's not so bad when it doesnt come up every sixth map. with ALL the maps in the rotation, the map you hate only comes up every 1 or 2 hours.

edit: oh yeah, and aztec is worth having just so when the terrorists DO whoop the cts every round, it feels REALLY really good

I understand that there are some people who like maps like Aztec. But there are also people who despise it. And I'm not sure, but more people dislike this map then those who like it. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

[APOC]

People dislike certain maps and they like others, but on the other side people like the maps that the others dislike and dislike the ones they like, you cant exlude certain maps due to some people not liking them, I have maps I dont like, but I dont leave because of it, I use those maps to have fun screwing around with guns I dont normally use or try and just have fun being stupid like mac 10 rushing. We will never make everyone happy so its not really worth it to exclude certain maps.

APOC

[Blis]

The only maps that i dont like playing are the camp fests because i get bored.If i rush i die quick and have to wait ages for the next round but if i camp like a bitch i still spend most of the round bored with nothing to do.The fighting is just as fun as in other maps but with boring intervals between.
Personaly i would lower the time limits on these maps to 2 minutes to force the team with the obective to push forward.I really hate how the most employed strat for ct's on assault is to wait for the t's to get bored so they come out and get sniped.

[atomicbob]

Let's see....do I have an opinion on map rotation?

Heck yeaah!


First off, the quickest way for me to die, is to get on a map. So generally speaking, all maps really kinda creep me out.

I vote to remove all maps from the rotation. This should eliminate at least one map that is on someone's "I hate this map" list, and everyone should be happy.

:yaya:

[FiLTHY_SNiPER]

Aww man... Bob ur the greatest.

[Prowler130]

I'm thinking of removing all the maps from the rotation since for every map, there's someone out there that hates it with a passion. So now, when you join the server, you'll just hangs. :yaya: :D

well thats hardly fair, i love all the maps, i just love a few more a bit more.....thats all :D

[Monochrome]

i say we leave in all the maps, and i will try to come up with a rotation based on months of research, looking at all the hard numbers of which maps are biased towards one side or the other, and which ones are the most fun in general.

look for this rotation sometime mid july :jester:

[ATNryan]

We really need to get working on a new rotation or at least the old with militia in it and aztec and dust seperate from each other.

[Broccoli]

why does everyone hate my favorite maps and love my least favorite? the only maps i don't like so much are the 2 dust maps ... therefore I DEMAND JUSTICE! justice and a neat little smiley thingy :poke2:

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

Why not a new rotation with all the maps in it? I miss playing all of the maps, even including Nuke and Port.

[FiLTHY_SNiPER]

yes please, all maps baby :thumbsup:

[wihadmin]

WTF are you guys talking about? All the maps are in the rotation. :dunno:

[Tykwer]

hmm. well as of 1/23/06 at midnight CST the map rotation was limited to militia, dust, aztec, piranese, chatuea(i dont know french, sorry), office, dust 2, and havana. others can atest to this.
if you've changed it since then, then :bow:

[Monochrome]

i say just put in all the maps, but stick in some good ones in between the bad.

i.e. don't stick aztec and dust together, etc., etc.

[Tykwer]

i think crotch understands our want for all the maps. from what it sounds like, there is a dissconect between what he sees in the server settings and what the reality is. hopefully that will be (or has been) resolved.

[wihadmin]

hmm. well as of 1/23/06 at midnight CST the map rotation was limited to militia, dust, aztec, piranese, chatuea(i dont know french, sorry), office, dust 2, and havana. others can atest to this.
if you've changed it since then, then :bow:

That's a problem as the mapcycle file has all the maps. I think what's whacked out is having militia in there multiple times. I thought I could place militia in there multiple times, but I think the server is confused. Let me demonstrate.

Maplist:

map1
map2
map3
map1
map4
map5
map6

I expected it to run it in order. But what's happening is it'll do map1, map2, map3, map1, map2, map3... etc... After running map1 the second time, instead of goingto map4, it goes back to map2.

And here I am thinking, "WTF are these guys asking for? What are they smoking? All the maps are there already!". hehehe. I'll go fix the mapcycle now. :D

[Grim_Scythe]

hah see militia is causing a problem hence oust it!
:jester:

[Mad5cout]

Why would you do that? Militia is godly.

[FiLTHY_SNiPER]

Yay Wihadmin!