View Full Version : New strat for MEC/China chopper
DonkeyHodie
08-02-2005, 01:55 AM
i've been thinking about how everyone has been saying how much the transport chopper for MEC/China sucks, and i think a squad of at least 3 people could make it almost more deadly than a bh.
now i haven't tested this but this is what i was thinking. you need the pilot to be support, a sniper, and an engineer(both sitting in the back). both the sniper and the engineer have mines out. then just have your pilot fly around and have the crew in back start tossing out mines like it's candy. if i remember correctly the pilot should automaticly resupply the back crew. now i know your all thinking that it's a bad idea because it involves mines, but i believe it will work.
example, your commander needs a distraction. fly to a base behind enemy lines that isn't very well guarded. lay as many mines around the area as possible then neutralize the point, but don't capture so you dont get idiots spawning there. fly off and hopefully you start to rack up the kills. if not, the base is a wasteland that only the brave and the dumb will enter.
please tell me what you think
TrinitronX
08-02-2005, 03:05 AM
with a full chopper... that could work. I've been told that only 5 mines actually stay where you put them though.. any more and the others start dissappearing
CombatWombat
08-02-2005, 04:17 AM
Yeah, you can only have so many mines out. Its not like you can drop 200 down. I still think the China/MEC chopper is a perfect counter to the blackhawk, just kamakaze it every time.
SLCoran
08-02-2005, 07:04 AM
Your idea has one major flaw. Team mates who are so dense they don't know what the RED skull & crossbones means :crazy: or the players that flat out don't see them :dunno: . Either way you will get punished and your score will suck :upyours: . Gauranteed to screw you everytime :thumbsdown: .
Good idea :thumbsup: though but it relies on your team to pay more attention and thats just not going to happens :wallbash: .
Knottwobad
08-02-2005, 09:00 AM
I would suggest 2 engineers lobbing grenades from high altitude since they would explode before they hit the ground and still give resupply but that truly only if you want to be a stat whore.
Ramis
08-02-2005, 09:05 AM
Doesn't make up for the fact that those guns on the chopper are horrible. :(
hostyle
08-02-2005, 09:07 AM
Doesn't make up for the fact that those guns on the chopper are horrible. :(
Word, you can absolutely forget about trying to take out a Humvee or the Stinger emplacement on Mashtuur with it. It's a far better strat just to race to the USMC chopper spawn, take it, and hold till the end of the map.
wihadmin
08-02-2005, 09:15 AM
Skull and crossbones dont' show up for some players unless they press Left-Alt to turn on 3D map. Remember that before you call other players "dense".
Drayu
08-02-2005, 09:17 AM
Skull and crossbones dont' show up for some players unless they press Left-Alt to turn on 3D map. Remember that before you call other players "dense".
Seriously! You have to hit left-alt to turn on a 3d map!?!?!?!?
wihadmin
08-02-2005, 09:31 AM
Skull and crossbones dont' show up for some players unless they press Left-Alt to turn on 3D map. Remember that before you call other players "dense".
Seriously! You have to hit left-alt to turn on a 3d map!?!?!?!?
Yes I do. I don't even know where to make it 3D map on by default and how to remap the key so that I don't accidentally turn it off. I've looked everywhere and can't find it. If you know, please let me know as I'd like to turn it on by default. I don't want to be dense any more.
monos
08-02-2005, 09:54 AM
If you know, please let me know as I'd like to turn it on by default. I don't want to be dense any more.
We might be able to help with the map part but i'm pretty sure your screwed on the dense part :jester:
Å|ArchBuck
08-02-2005, 09:56 AM
Word, you can absolutely forget about trying to take out a Humvee
I would like to point out again that a humvee is a BH's worst enemy... for the MEC/Chinese POS chopper, it has slightly more armor against this...
hostyle
08-02-2005, 09:59 AM
Yes, instead of having working AA or a transport vehicle used for transport. Lets delegate other TRANSPORT vehicles to camping corners of the map to act as AA.
/sigh
Drayu
08-02-2005, 10:29 AM
Skull and crossbones dont' show up for some players unless they press Left-Alt to turn on 3D map. Remember that before you call other players "dense".
Seriously! You have to hit left-alt to turn on a 3d map!?!?!?!?
Yes I do. I don't even know where to make it 3D map on by default and how to remap the key so that I don't accidentally turn it off. I've looked everywhere and can't find it. If you know, please let me know as I'd like to turn it on by default. I don't want to be dense any more.
HOLD THE FREAKIN HORSES HERE!!! THERE IS A 3D MAP?!?!?!? WHAT AM I!?!?!? LOST?????? HOLY NEWB FEELINGS!!!! AHHH!!! SO what does it show?
wihadmin
08-02-2005, 10:33 AM
It's kinda like the 3D map in the BFV engine. It shows the flag locations, distance to each. It shows the skull/crossbones on friendly C4, mines, and claymores. By default, Left-Alt turns it on/off.
Bonez
08-02-2005, 10:38 AM
wait, everyone didn't know about this ?
Drayu
08-02-2005, 10:55 AM
I was wondering why I couldn't see those anymore. I must have hit the button by mistake. LoL
LeakyNavel
08-02-2005, 11:02 AM
for me the skull and cross bones show up and i didn't have to press any key to turn it on.
Paul30
08-02-2005, 11:06 AM
I'm with Drayu....holy crap...I have a new key to push...
I'll prolly die 5 times while I'm looking at the new map...
wihadmin
08-02-2005, 11:12 AM
I was wondering why I couldn't see those anymore. I must have hit the button by mistake. LoL
This is my point all along. If you don't have 3D on then you don't see the skull and crossbones on the mines. The engineers always assume that all players have 3D map on, but in fact not all players do.
SLCoran
08-02-2005, 11:20 AM
That goes to show yet again there are exceptions to every rule. The skull and crossbones have always showed up for me, and I guess either "A" I forget (which is very possible) that not everyone can see them on your team or "B" I didn't know that they could be turned off/on (which I didn't) so you can't see them. Most of the time I assume everyone can see them because that was default for me and I always see them albiet too later sometimes :big_eyes: :angel2:. If they can be turned off it does seem to be to important to do so.
For those who can't see them at all for what ever reason I apologize for the dense part.
wihadmin
08-02-2005, 12:47 PM
For me, Left Alt is next to my Spacebar key. Sometimes I jump and fat-finger both the Spacebar and the Left-Alt by accident without realizing it. Pleae please please let me know if you guys find a way to remap that key to something else.
SLCoran
08-02-2005, 01:00 PM
I'll look in to it for you. I'm guessing you use the keyboard which is why you have that problem and I don't. Recommendation try to get a Nostromo Speed Pad.
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=&Section_Id=2071&pcount=&Product_Id=157024
Once you get used to them they rock because they are totally programmable.
Å|ArchBuck
08-02-2005, 01:07 PM
Perfect! I love that thing! I have been looking for a new one... always used to use a keypad thing that looks similar...but since BF2 doesn't support using the keypad for movement, I couldn't use it... had to learn wasd
:) happy happy, joy joy!
monos
08-02-2005, 01:32 PM
Perfect! I love that thing! I have been looking for a new one... always used to use a keypad thing that looks similar...but since BF2 doesn't support using the keypad for movement, I couldn't use it... had to learn wasd
:) happy happy, joy joy!
also checkout the ZBoard you can use the default that comes with it but there is also a BF2 specific insert which i believe after the rebate you get it free. http://www.zboard.com/bf2
TrinitronX
08-02-2005, 01:55 PM
I have mine remapped to the "\" key... that way it's far away from where my hands will normally be on the keyboard. It's easy to rebind keys from within the menu. Just go to options, controls, and look around a bit for where it says 3D map. Then doubleclick on where the key "Left alt" appears, and press whatever key you want to map it to.
I wish they'd fix the console so it's not so object oriented in the commands. And it also makes it very non-straightforward to bind keys in it.
Multiplex
08-02-2005, 02:07 PM
Doesn't make up for the fact that those guns on the chopper are horrible. :(
It seems to me that after the 1.02 patch that the MEC chopper guns absolutely saw through Blackhawks and do considerably more damage than the minguns can do to the MEC transport chopper itself. That excludes of course personnel inside the two choppers... one whip spray with the BH mini will pretty much kill everyone inside the MEC chopper.
Never the less... if those MEC machineguns line up on the BH it seems the MEC chopper will tear it up fast.
DonkeyHodie
08-03-2005, 10:37 PM
i tried this the other day with some friends and it owned everyone, only instead of a sniper and engineer i had 2 anti-tanks and an engineer. i had 79 points in kill assists. it was INSANE.
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