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hostyle
07-29-2005, 01:57 PM
So, I'm looking at Seargant sometime today. (insert joke about playing too much here) I need help deciding between the M95 and the G36 (spec ops gun). I know quite a few people are not happy with their M95. Yet, I haven't heard much about the spec ops unlock.
Haven't had much of a chance to use either. I was afk during the account hacks so didn't get to play with the G36 (or w/e) much at all. I have however used the m95 a few times after looting corpses and didn't find it to be too horrible.
Opinions?
btw, I don't play spec ops all that often. Nor sniper. I have the L8 and the DAO unlocked already and love them both. I don't want to make the decision based on what kit I use the most. I'd rather make it based off of which weapon is better.
GorroXXII
07-29-2005, 02:11 PM
I tried all the unlocks myself, and I wasn't to impressed with the G36, I also hate sniping so I have no opinion on the m95, I did try it, but you would want an answer from someonewho snipes!
I've heard the G36 is a good unlock to get. For most spec ops players it takes some getting used to since you lose the scope and have to use the iron sights again. But that shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Personally, I've unlocked the M95 and I love it! It's way better than the default US sniper rifle. I actually got my first flying chopper pilot kill a week ago or so with it. It's beautiful in my opinion.
It's beautiful because it actually kills. You shoot someone with it and they die! :D
I <3 sniping though, and I'm content with the M4.
<3 Saur
DinkyPoopStick
07-29-2005, 02:19 PM
the snipers may try to sell you on that barrett with the arguement, "you can shoot pilots with it." some may even say "I HAVE done it," but I will tell you that as much as I fly, I have NEVER been killed by it in the cockpit. hit by it MAYBE, but never killed. I have NEVER seen [m-95] DinkyPoopStick. so do not let them persuede you with that arguement. I will say I think it does have more knockdown them the MEC/CHINA snipers. Therefore the odds of 1 shot kills is higher.
The Spec-ops gun is in practice(some will undoubtly make refence to thier stats, but i only care about in game) no better then the m-4 or MEC spec ops, but you do LOOSE the dot sight which is the best part of Spec ops IMO. the China spec-op has no dot sight so advantage there.
IMO I would go with sniper rifle only because the MEC/CHINA rifles are soooooooo sissy.
Ramis
07-29-2005, 02:22 PM
the snipers may try to sell you on that barrett with the arguement, "you can shoot pilots with it." some may even say "I HAVE done it," but I will tell you that as much as I fly, I have NEVER been killed by it in the cockpit. hit by it MAYBE, but never killed. I have NEVER seen [m-95] DinkyPoopStick. so do not let them persuede you with that arguement. I will say I think it does have more knockdown them the MEC/CHINA snipers. Therefore the odds of 1 shot kills is higher.
The Spec-ops gun is in practice(some will undoubtly make refence to thier stats, but i only care about in game) no better then the m-4 or MEC spec ops, but you do LOOSE the dot sight which is the best part of Spec ops IMO. the China spec-op has no dot sight so advantage there.
IMO I would go with sniper rifle only because the MEC/CHINA rifles are soooooooo sissy.
I've done it, they were right in front of me though in an attack chopter. Just hovering there. First and only time ive done it. Personally, for mass-closequarters-sniper-killing I like the Shav MEC rifle better. I just cant seem to get the aim right on the unlock.
wihadmin
07-29-2005, 02:25 PM
I've been killed by a nearby sniper w/ the M95 when I landed my Chinese attack chopper on the helipad at the Plant Entrance on Dalian Plant. So it does work as advertised.
LeakyNavel
07-29-2005, 02:28 PM
I have the M95 and I'm not too happy with it. many times from a distance i have to shoot ppl 2 or 3 times to kill them unless i can get the head shot while they are standing still right off the bat. I'm wishing I unlocked the jackhammer or the medic rifle.
I have shot pilots out of the cockpit with the M95 but only when they are hovering over a flag. it's funny to see the chopper drop to the ground. I've shot more gunners out than pilots though.
SLCoran has the spec ops gun maybe he can tell you more about it.
Lol, yeah my particular incident happened when FireBalls and some gunner were in an attack chopper attacking some base. They'd practically hover in place.
Anyways, he pitched forward after sending missiles at a jeep and as he flew over the jeep shed spawn place, I popped FireBalls right through the side window.
Chopper went down, but the gunner bailed lol :(
<3 Saur
SLCoran
07-29-2005, 02:35 PM
I personally likethe Spec Ops unlock. The damage is better and it holds a reasonably ight pattern. The sight does take some time to get used to but it's a straight shooter for single shot.
ILove it and wouldn't trade it. :thumbsup:
Bonez
07-29-2005, 02:41 PM
yea, the sniper unlock is no better then the M24 with penetration.
and compared to the other unlocks it blows.
DinkyPoopStick
07-29-2005, 02:58 PM
I love that all the snipers that have sniped a pilot say, "I did it, the guy was ......" they can tell you about the 1 time they did it. that 1 kill to me is not worth it. To pick sniper unlock for the reason of being able to kill a pilot is foolish IMO. you can kill pilots with all kinds of things, I have been shot out by shoulder rockets, bullets coming through doors, tons of things execpt a M-95. I'm not saying it can't be done, just the odds of it are slim to none and I have those same odds using the rockets.
BUT if you people read my whole post I say I recomend sniper for the extra power compared to MEC/China.
Merlinex
07-29-2005, 03:26 PM
I think the M95 is one of the worst upgrades, my roommate has it and I've used it 4 or 5 sessions. I pilot alot as well, only been killed once ever by one while in the cockpit.
I haven't used the Spec Ops so I dont have much to say on that one. During the All guns Unlocked Period, the best bang for the buck (or improvement of new gun vs the old guns) IMO are the Medic, Assault, and Support.
Currently I have Medic Unlock, going to be a tough choice between Assault and Support for my next one down the line.
GorroXXII
07-29-2005, 03:28 PM
I think the M95 is one of the worst upgrades, my roommate has it and I've used it 4 or 5 sessions. I pilot alot as well, only been killed once ever by one while in the cockpit.
I haven't used the Spec Ops so I dont have much to say on that one. During the All guns Unlocked Period, the best bang for the buck (or improvement of new gun vs the old guns) IMO are the Medic, Assault, and Support.
Currently I have Medic Unlock, going to be a tough choice between Assault and Support for my next one down the line.
I like the support upgrade myself more than the Assault, so taht is my opinion on that...
Drayu
07-29-2005, 03:29 PM
Ha, a second unlock! Unless you are whorehawking it, names omitted :D , it will never come!
The Needle
07-29-2005, 03:43 PM
Hehe, Dinky, you have been shot out of the cockpit of a Cobra, and out of the back of a blackhawk with that gun. I gotcha with it before. That aside if I spend a whole map sniping I average about 15-20 kills per map and 1 pilot. Some maps are slow, some I can't keep enough ammo on hand. Anyway, if you are going to snipe much, the .50 cal is nice IMO. Its not going to put you at the top of the leaderboard usually but if you are eating dinner and want to stay in the game its fun to harass the enemy.
Bonez
07-29-2005, 04:09 PM
the SVD and M24 should be able to penetrate the windows.(SVD 7.62x56, M24 7.62x51[.308win])
then make the M95 instakill as well as penetration.
sorry chinese snipers, but the round is too small, and it's more of a squad level sharpshooters weapon.
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn18-e.htm
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn11-e.htm
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn68-e.htm
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn03-e.htm
was playing yesterday, and ditched my .50 halfway through the map and switched over to the SVD, dropped a squad in next to no time, 1- 2 shots each.
Drayu
07-29-2005, 04:37 PM
Yawn
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Saurcastic/hijack.jpg
On a side note, I'd like to say that I've gotten BS-good w/ the m203 and other nade launchers.
Sometimes I can't believe the frags I get with those beasts :D
And it's a chopper-killer too
<3 Saur
the_godfather
08-03-2005, 11:48 AM
i'm bringin this thread back from teh dead. what should i unlock: assault or support gun? does the assault gun have a nade launcher on it?
monos
08-03-2005, 11:52 AM
i'm bringin this thread back from teh dead. what should i unlock: assault or support gun? does the assault gun have a nade launcher on it?
no it does not, and i have the PKM for the support unlock and do not use it. I found it was no better in the end than what it replaces, which is why i started a new name so i can unlock something else however if you like to play support it does do more damage than the basic weapon.
DinkyPoopStick
08-03-2005, 03:18 PM
i'm bringin this thread back from teh dead. what should i unlock: assault or support gun? does the assault gun have a nade launcher on it?
if you already have the medic unlock, i would get the assault. PKM is no better then the other LMG, but the assault is better then that crappy 3 round burst of the american(granted you loose the "NOOB launcher").
I would not use unlock for china or MEC, only for americans because that 3 rounds burst blows butt.
Multiplex
08-03-2005, 04:14 PM
i'm bringin this thread back from teh dead. what should i unlock: assault or support gun? does the assault gun have a nade launcher on it?
no it does not, and i have the PKM for the support unlock and do not use it. I found it was no better in the end than what it replaces, which is why i started a new name so i can unlock something else however if you like to play support it does do more damage than the basic weapon.
I am doing the same thing after unlockin the PKM. I'm not impressed with it at all. The rate of fire is slow enough that it's hard to hit running people when firing long bursts and the inaccuracy of the thing makes it worthless as anything but a shotgun. The two other support weapons are far superior... especially the AK whatever that MEC has.
Dinky: I don't know how anyone could give up the newb launcher for an average weapon without the newb launcher. Even if you *aren't* a stats whore you can still use the gren launcher for bunched up enemies or when you empty a clip on a couple of guys and need that last little oomph to get the last guy dead. Flipping up the gren sight is much faster than reloading another mag.
I dunno, I created a new account and I'm going to be getting the DAO I think. Anti-tank looks like a very promising kit without that MP5 dragging it down.
dbodenheim
08-03-2005, 04:58 PM
I strongly second Multiplex's comment. Him and I had a discussiona t work about the noob launcher all day yesterday. He plays it differently then I do. I will expend all 5 gernades before i even think about switching over to the bullets, where as he'll switch back and forth. We did agree the other assault gun is no where near as good.
PKM---agreed I dont use it though its unlocked.
Jackhammer--- unlocked, but I still prefer pump shotty, just seems to hit harder. Once I get more time with it I may like it more.
Bonez
08-03-2005, 07:27 PM
they should have put in the XM8-x320 or G36(E or K)-AG36 or added the HK79 to the g3 to replace the M16-m203/ak101-gp30/ak47-gp30
Paul30
08-04-2005, 09:33 AM
didn't read everything so sorry if this is late...but...
As a spec ops player I unlocked the G36 since it has a "full time" damage modifyer unlike the M4 which swaps around...
DinkyPoopStick
08-04-2005, 09:45 AM
Dinky: I don't know how anyone could give up the newb launcher for an average weapon without the newb launcher. Even if you *aren't* a stats whore you can still use the gren launcher for bunched up enemies or when you empty a clip on a couple of guys and need that last little oomph to get the last guy dead. Flipping up the gren sight is much faster than reloading another mag.
Reread my post, I said that the AK with the Noob launcher is better then the unlock, but IMO I can not stand that 3 round burst crap from the M-16, I would only use unlock if I were american, and I HAD to be assault. As I am now(PKM unlocked only) I NEVER play american assault, and occasionaly play MEC/China assault.
BTW im 400 points from 2nd unlock and it will be Medic unlock. That is without a doubt the biggest upgrade in the game. Get the most bang for your buck with that.
SLCoran
08-04-2005, 11:58 AM
Good choice Poop Stick I unlocked it yesterday and love it.
DinkyPoopStick
08-04-2005, 01:44 PM
Good choice Poop Stick I unlocked it yesterday and love it.
which? the medic?
SLCoran
08-04-2005, 02:51 PM
Yes the medic. I put down more of the enemy with that than any other weapon, 120 sniper rounds are nice to have :thumbsup: .
timfoye
08-13-2005, 12:25 AM
i read all these ideas before chosing the medic upgrade. it took me from cannon fodder to medium performance instantly. i spend all my time sniping with it too, just gotta lay down and only squeeze off 2 to 3 round bursts.
glad i didnt get that stupid sniper rifle. what the hell are you going to do with it in close quarter levels?
p.s i'm getting that sniper gun next cause the other guns look crap.
redish16
08-13-2005, 07:53 PM
I am about 400 points from Corporal as well and am thinking about the British gun. I have already unlocked the assault gun and only use it when I play Americans, I also hate the three round burst.
My other choice is the anti-tank because I play it second behind assault. Thanks for the thoughts fellas.
Multiplex
08-14-2005, 06:06 AM
Just an update from me as well... since this thread floated back to the top.
On my third account I unlocked the L85 medic weapon and it is better than the M16 for USMC but not better than the AK medic weapon. There's something about those MEC/Chinese AK's that drops people fast and accurately.
L85 is still hands down the best sniper rifle in the game though. :) I spend most of my time with it in single shot mode... even for close range combat.
redish16
08-15-2005, 05:43 PM
I went with the L85 and I love it. :rockon:
Phenix
08-15-2005, 05:50 PM
I went with the L85 and I love it. :rockon:
:thumbsup: It's an awesome tool of destruction :yaya:
sphera
09-13-2005, 05:20 PM
Should you unlock the weapon of the class you play most often or the weapon that works the best for special situations that you choose mid-game?
I play Engineer the most now so I was thinking about unlocking that first so I get some benefit from the unlock but from reading opinions and guides, it seems to me that the Medic unlock would be the most useful.
z3speed4me
09-13-2005, 05:33 PM
how long or wat are the requirements for an unlock??
GroovyDude
09-13-2005, 05:43 PM
I listed it in another posting which eludes me at the moment.
EDIT: AH HA! Found it:
http://www.warishellgaming.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4476&highlight=
hostyle
09-13-2005, 05:51 PM
Should you unlock the weapon of the class you play most often or the weapon that works the best for special situations that you choose mid-game?
I play Engineer the most now so I was thinking about unlocking that first so I get some benefit from the unlock but from reading opinions and guides, it seems to me that the Medic unlock would be the most useful.
Normally I'd say what you play the most. Seeing as thats engineer in your case though, I'd go with your 2nd best class. IMO it's hard to top the pump shotties, and the Jackhammer doesn't even come close.
{EA}TOP AGENT
09-15-2005, 08:45 AM
Alright seeing as I don't want to make another thread about which gun should I choose I'll just pick this one.
Currently 2.5k points away from Sgt. and should get this by saturday but I really don't know what gun to pick.
Many of you know I'm a huge assault person fan (still no G3 unlock) but I do rely on the Gernade Launcher as means of security during CP capturing or what not. The guns I'm thinking about right now are the G36c, PKM, G3, DAO-12.
I just don't know what to pick. I'm an full type assault player that is always in the front lines. Tempted to pick the G3 for when I'm a USMC but still I don't want to regret choosing a weapon since the next unlock will be in 6 months lol.
wihadmin
09-15-2005, 09:04 AM
I'm also an assault player. My first unlock, I got the G3. For the second unlock, I got the DAO-12. I like it alot. Nowadays, I split my time playing assault and AT. I hear the PKM is good too.
Rajun Cajun
09-15-2005, 09:46 AM
Alright seeing as I don't want to make another thread about which gun should I choose I'll just pick this one.
Currently 2.5k points away from Sgt. and should get this by saturday but I really don't know what gun to pick.
Many of you know I'm a huge assault person fan (still no G3 unlock) but I do rely on the Gernade Launcher as means of security during CP capturing or what not. The guns I'm thinking about right now are the G36c, PKM, G3, DAO-12.
I just don't know what to pick. I'm an full type assault player that is always in the front lines. Tempted to pick the G3 for when I'm a USMC but still I don't want to regret choosing a weapon since the next unlock will be in 6 months lol.
Personally I would go with the PKM or as I like to call it...The Swiss Cheese Maker. Of course Support is my main kit so take it for what it's worth. Close to med range this thing is awesome. You can't just get down on it though because it can get way from you and not to mention overheat. Controlled fast bursts, if that makes sense, is they way to go with this beast.
If you rely on the 203/GP-30 I see no reason for you to unlock the G3. You would probably go back to your old ways, using the 203/GP-30, and you have just wasted an unlock.
SSG-Martin
09-16-2005, 03:27 AM
May even ponder going with the anti tank shotgun that thing is a street sweeper. I love the G3 but small ammo cap can be a problem as reload times are almost pond waterishly slow. The G36C is a beast too.
Just pick the one for the class you play the most :D :D
LeakyNavel
09-16-2005, 06:58 AM
May even ponder going with the anti tank shotgun that thing is a street sweeper.
hehe... Martin most people won't get this joke :hehehe:
From what I've seen of my son's unlock the reload of those 12 rounds of shotgun shells is just as slow as in real life.
hostyle
09-16-2005, 07:04 AM
All you have to do if you get in trouble while reloading the DAO is to switch to another weapon. Then back to the DAO.
The gun rocks. :rockon:
{EA}TOP AGENT
09-16-2005, 11:20 AM
Alright seeing as I don't want to make another thread about which gun should I choose I'll just pick this one.
Currently 2.5k points away from Sgt. and should get this by saturday but I really don't know what gun to pick.
Many of you know I'm a huge assault person fan (still no G3 unlock) but I do rely on the Gernade Launcher as means of security during CP capturing or what not. The guns I'm thinking about right now are the G36c, PKM, G3, DAO-12.
I just don't know what to pick. I'm an full type assault player that is always in the front lines. Tempted to pick the G3 for when I'm a USMC but still I don't want to regret choosing a weapon since the next unlock will be in 6 months lol.
Personally I would go with the PKM or as I like to call it...The Swiss Cheese Maker. Of course Support is my main kit so take it for what it's worth. Close to med range this thing is awesome. You can't just get down on it though because it can get way from you and not to mention overheat. Controlled fast bursts, if that makes sense, is they way to go with this beast.
If you rely on the 203/GP-30 I see no reason for you to unlock the G3. You would probably go back to your old ways, using the 203/GP-30, and you have just wasted an unlock.
Well I do rely on the M203 but it isn't my main source of kills. My assault is my primary then M203 then pistol. Sometimes I find myself in situations where I need to toss a gernade and not an M203 or find myself in a case for the M16 lacks in power and thats the reason for my demise. Right now I've narrowed my choices to the G3 G36 or DAO-12. Personally the DAO-12 is a sweet gun but I think I'll pick some thing of assault or carbine.
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