View Full Version : Thoughts on the BC 2 Beta?
Grim_Scythe
01-29-2010, 11:07 AM
So I played it for a couple of hours. So far I am impressed, if I wasn't so stingy to myself I can imagine the graphics would be awesome. Love how every damn thing is almost destructible, hella fun when I forget that and I take behind cover or am using a mounted MG in a buiding and BAM 203 to the window. Thing I hate is how piss poor the AK is and the dmg....really....bugs me. Another thing I guess its prob just Beta how come both sides have the exact same guns? I hope that isn't the case in retail. Oh and love the tank gunners we don't have to worry about getting capped.
Drayu
01-29-2010, 11:32 AM
Awesome thus far! BUT, I haven't had the issues others are having....so I could see how they could be more jaded.
Crotch-Rot
01-29-2010, 11:57 AM
So far, I like the Beta, even though I'm crashing with every end-of-round. The game feels arcadey to me. Maybe bc I've been playing a lot of MW2 on the 360. I miss the prone and the commo-rose though.
I have to say that the PS3 beta was much better in terms of performance and map choice. The weapon response and feel of the game was much much better on the PS3 than the PC for some reason.
All in all, this is more like an ALPHA than a Beta.
SoupyC
01-29-2010, 12:54 PM
Thankfully we're still a month and a half from release...though the PS3 beta did feel WAY more finished.
Drayu
01-29-2010, 01:00 PM
the console betas were probably more finished because it seems that this game was developed for console before PC. It is being ported to PC instead of the usual opposite. Therefore I think they just made enough changes to get a beta working, then they are having us hammer out all the other bugs and seeing our feedback.
$.02
FiLTHY_SNiPER
01-29-2010, 02:52 PM
Just played one round on the Assaulting side.
I played as a sniper and went 13-0 :D
2nd on the scoreboard.
Damn, I'm filthy :P
And yes, the PS3 beta was far more polished and ran much better.
I'm running on mostly medium settings and getting maybe 30 fps on average
FiLTHY_SNiPER
01-29-2010, 07:11 PM
This game owns.
I was only able to play one more round today, but it was pretty fucking good.
I pumped up the volume on my 5.1 surround and the sound is just incredible.
Grim_Scythe
01-29-2010, 07:14 PM
No prone I think is nice no dolphin diving :D although when im hiding in the bushes against the tank I prefer to lie down in teh bushes
Hellcat
01-29-2010, 10:28 PM
I love it so far except the lack of prone.
I try to join a game and get stuck in the loop of the loading screen.
Ragan
01-30-2010, 05:16 AM
Just from the simple update from DICE, the game has already improved. The next couple of things I want to see are imput of my joystick throttle and prone (I doubt prone will be in the game, its a basic fundimental that if left out will probably not be put in.)
FiLTHY_SNiPER
01-30-2010, 11:08 AM
Prone has never been in any BF game, as far as I know, but it would be nice.
Crotch-Rot
01-30-2010, 11:13 AM
I thought it was in BF2 hence dolphin diving...
Heres my take after 16 or so hours playing.
Cover is king. Since they've made mostly anything you can see besides rocks on the ground destructable. It's important to find cover where you can and blow the hell out of the cover enemies are behind. For example... So hey i'm driving a tank and I see Rooch inside a concrete guard house waiting to blow his C4 in the road. What do you do? In BF2 you'd call me a bastard and keep your tank back away. In BFBC2 you yell EAT IT ROOCH and blow the hell out of the guard house.
Weapons:
LMGS : PKM Takes the cake other ones are really inaccurate and really aren't that good.
Assault Rifles: F2000/XM8/AK all good assault rifles accurate at longer ranges and if you're good with the grenade launcher awesome. WW2 Tommy Gun is pretty sweet too once you hit 11 to be a medic with it.
Pistols : Don't take someone holding a pistol lightly they can easily kill you in 3-4 shots quicker than some LMGs can kill people. If that sniper turns around on you when you were going to knife him in the back just shoot him or he'll shoot you first. M1911 is my fav right now but also the starting one is my 2nd fav.
Sniper Rifles: M24 still my favorite even though it's the first one you get. Others seem less accurate or have crappier scopes. ( I haven't gotten the last scope upgrade though so unsure about that)
RPG: It's a rocket only one around.
Mortar: Nice addition to the sniper team to get rid of campers like me that sits their squad behind some nice cover.
Grenades: Took me a little to find the button for it but pretty good stuff once you learn they fly pretty far and the arc is higher than before. Hit above about 20 windows before i had it down.
Defibs: Embarass your enemy and defib him as he comes through a doorway.
Vehicles:
ATV: Sweet 2 man quicky transport it's all the jeep without the size or the .50 cal.
AA Tank: Anti-aircraft short bursting vech that is good for taking out apaches. Not really good for anything else so far.
Bradley: Really sweet APC with some incendiary rounds on the driver gun and then a nice heavy machine gun on the 2nd slot.
Apache Helo: Missles on the pilot slot take about 3-4 runs to take down a tank or a AA gun nicer balance than the flying destruction machine of BF2 where one helo could really just plow everything down in one pass. Gunner slot has some nice anti-infantry capabilities
Blackhawk: Really total suck. I've flown it. I've gunned in it. Really almost impossible to kill shit with it.
UAV: Fly high shoot missles and be patient it takes a long time to reload but your butt is safely behind the front lines.
Placed Weapons:
Sheilded Heavy MG: Totally my favorite thing in the entire game. Nothing like shooting at snipers across the map and mowing down their precious trees that hide them while they are unable to return fire on you sucessfully.
Tow Missle: Excellent for taking out tanks/bradley/AA tank. Really sturdy and placed decently on maps just watch out for those snipers
Unsheilded Window MG: Still a nice weapon placed at some good choke points but more than a few times i've had the wall of the house i'm sitting in blown up with nothing but air and blood infront of me while i scream oh shit and run to find some cover.
=HR=Gumby!!!
01-30-2010, 02:40 PM
Prone has never been in any BF game, as far as I know, but it would be nice.
I'm fairly certain it's been in every BF game save BC1 >.>
Hellcat
01-30-2010, 03:15 PM
Yeah, I'm with Gumby on this one. Need to bring back prone.
papasan9
01-30-2010, 03:50 PM
yes.. having a sniper weapon and no prone is like having a penis and no crotch-rot's mouth. biggest decision-driven aspect i disaprove of is no prone.
however, i have been enjoying the beta with minimal issues and i definately have to upgrade or build anew very soon.
=HR=Gumby!!!
01-30-2010, 04:06 PM
...i definately have to upgrade or build anew very soon.
You said it! I haven't changed hardly anything in my machine since 04 or 05. It's served me well, but I can tell it's time to upgrade. Going t have to wait until after the new car though.
FiLTHY_SNiPER
01-30-2010, 06:06 PM
I'm fairly certain it's been in every BF game save BC1 >.>
lol then I'll just shut my fucking mouth :D
FozzyBear
01-30-2010, 10:08 PM
I need to upgrade my computer :(
I was getting an unplayable slideshow on my setup....though my setup is several years old. :)
=HR=Gumby!!!
01-31-2010, 02:53 AM
I thought it was in BF2 hence dolphin diving...
It's dolphin diving when others did it....When I did it I called it the "Flying Dragon" =D
Back on topic: The more I play, the more I love it. There are bugs definitely, but the fun far out weighs the few frustrations. At least for me. As with all of the previous BFs, working with a good squad and getting things accomplished as a unit is an awesome experience. BC2 just makes it a much smoother and easier experience to work with your team.
The weapons can feel a tad on the underpowered side, but that's a staple of the BF series. It probably only feels more evident now from having played hardcore mode on CoD4 for a while.
redish16
01-31-2010, 04:43 AM
Wow, my last round of the night ... Medic started with the PKM ended with the M249 got two unlocks and 17 pins in one round.
And my team still lost .
Ragan
01-31-2010, 07:44 AM
Yeah, as I learn the weapons and vehicles, my kills are going up. The weapons are under powered for the caliber of the weapon. I also had a good run last night with two unlocks on engineer and a bunch of pins. We stopped them on the last objective of the map to carry the win. I can't wait for WiH to have a server and all of us to battle each other.
SnaKe
01-31-2010, 03:47 PM
....Oh and love the tank gunners we don't have to worry about getting capped.It didnt help me, I was capped by a sniper in one of the armored vehicles. Dont remember which one. I thought it was the tank.
Anyway...no prone is ridiculous. Not only should they have prone but leaning too. Damn...this is the newest game of the 21st century for @#^&* sake! What the hell are these developers thinking. Has anyone heard (or read) of a technical reason why? I'd like to know.
=HR=Gumby!!!
01-31-2010, 04:09 PM
It didnt help me, I was capped by a sniper in one of the armored vehicles. Dont remember which one. I thought it was the tank.
Anyway...no prone is ridiculous. Not only should they have prone but leaning too. Damn...this is the newest game of the 21st century for @#^&* sake! What the hell are these developers thinking. Has anyone heard (or read) of a technical reason why? I'd like to know.
It was probably the light tank n the Russian side. On the main gun you're exposed.
As for why no prone. You can thank the console crowd for bitching about PC having it and console not having it. At least that's' the explanation as far as I know.
SnaKe
01-31-2010, 04:45 PM
...As for why no prone. You can thank the console crowd for bitching about PC having it and console not having it. At least that's' the explanation as far as I know.It's a political issue!?! :crazy:
JustMeBF2
01-31-2010, 05:24 PM
No Prone means no dolphin diving which equals less crying babies.
SnaKe
01-31-2010, 05:48 PM
No Prone means no dolphin diving which equals less crying babies.Well that didnt workout so good, cuz I'm crying about no prone.
Hellcat
01-31-2010, 07:11 PM
I think we should all, as a WiH group, go onto their forum and request prone.
papasan9
01-31-2010, 10:47 PM
take a look at this, a weapons specialization mentions prone.
go to multiplayer\weapons and gadgets\specializations
then look at the last medic one with m60 icon - mmn-lmg.
the caption underneath it mentions prone.
i wonder if they are testing no prone reactions for whatever reason. everyone who wants it should log that at the beta feedback page and let them know. cant not have prone.
Rajun Cajun
02-01-2010, 09:59 AM
From the official Twitter...
BFBC2 Lead Designer RT @locust9 (http://twitter.com/locust9): Fyi we will not add prone based on anything. You can stop asking now, but share your feedback with me. :)
and another comment from him...
@kottiuk battlefields pre destruction = prone, BFs post destruction (BFBC1 and 2) no prone. Gameplay is fire and maneuver, not drop and hide
Drayu
02-01-2010, 10:41 AM
I find it hard to believe the devs are replying in that tone.
Ragan
02-01-2010, 02:21 PM
Why is it hard to believe, its the same tone the devs of COD:MW2 had about dedicated servers and max players.
FiLTHY_SNiPER
02-01-2010, 05:08 PM
@kottiuk battlefields pre destruction = prone, BFs post destruction (BFBC1 and 2) no prone. Gameplay is fire and maneuver, not drop and hide
This isn't a bad reason, IMO.
Prone could make snipers virtually invisible, with the terrain and foliage detail BC2 has.
I don't think the two responses even compare.
BFBC2 has stated they're changing how the game plays to make it quicker and more fast paced. I don't think removing prone is THAT bad of an idea. I think the games have been playing faster than what we've played with BF2, and overall the level of cheese from dolphin diving and prone snipers sitting around forever has been removed. Could you even imagine the first stage of the level we've been playing with 6 prone snipers on the top of the hill or a bunch of prone LMG guys camping around in different areas it would be campfest.
SnaKe
02-01-2010, 07:26 PM
Well, that confirms my theory on why they did it. I suspected it was bc they want more run-n-gun, fast twitch, etc. How can you promote team play with run-n-gun?
Crotch-Rot
02-01-2010, 07:55 PM
Well, that confirms my theory on why they did it. I suspected it was bc they want more run-n-gun, fast twitch, etc. How can you promote team play with run-n-gun?
The whole squad runs together and circle strafe like the a circus act? :woot:
papasan9
02-01-2010, 08:17 PM
The whole squad runs together and circle strafe like the a circus act? :woot:
yup :woot::woot:
yeah snake, it does confirm that. when they decreased server size... i could see prone making gameplay less "exciting" or whatever... makes sense whether i agree with it or not. i want my prone tho..
Crotch-Rot
02-01-2010, 08:58 PM
papasan likes to go prone when I'm around... dontcha bitch!??! =)
papasan9
02-01-2010, 09:01 PM
belly on the ground, ass in the air baby....
sandman21pre
02-01-2010, 09:47 PM
Is it me or does the M24 move around like in COD? Is there any way to hold your breath? My biggest thing is the UAV, I love it, but they made it hard to control and hard to see, it should be one or the other.
LordBeer
02-01-2010, 10:14 PM
Face down, ass up, that's the way we like to.. You know how it goes..
Anyway.. Honestly, it doesnt bother me much that prone wont be in the game. The guns seems to have a tad more recoil then I'm used to. (I had almost 25% accuracy in BF2, in BC2 it's about 10%) It's difficult enough trying to hit someone off in the distance. I figure there is enough cover in the form of foliage for people to hide behind. (As Filthy said) I never was much of a sniper though. I know I started to ween myself off of prone & own during 2142. I was fine with this because running into a 'Professional' dolphin diver was just ridiculous. I'd have to just laugh at those goobers being 'leet'.
I still think there is a lot of teamwork in BC2. Medics still rez people, Assault guys help out engineers reload their rockets, and snipers can C4 the target. Everyone needs to help spot targets to know when a tank is rolling in or spot guys hiding behind a roadblock. (Press Q while they're in your sights FYI) You also need team communication. So the last guy alive in the squad doesnt go Rambo and get his ass shot off trying to take a tank head on.
I think BC2 is a more fast paced game then BF2. If you're not down the hill quickly the 1st map part while attacking, you're kinda boned because all the cover will have been destroyed. However, I wouldnt call it run and gun. CoD was run and gun. You'll run out of ammo WAY to fast trying to pull CoD moves in BC2. I usually piss away most of assault rifle magazine just trying to put down one guy in BC2. With only 90 rounds of ammo, I usually need to resupply after 2 guys! I sure as hell am going to fire and maneuver because my cover will be blown to bits if I'm lucky enough to blast a few guys.
It's a much more dynamic battlefield then any of us are used to. I like it. Other then the FPS issues..
Rajun Cajun
02-01-2010, 10:18 PM
Agree with Beer. Squad work is definitely still there and a must. There is incentive for everyone to stay alive with the way the new squad spawn system works. It's no longer just the squad leaders job to stay alive. And let's be honest...sometimes playing squad leader in BF2 was boring as hell if you were really wanting to get in on some action. With the way it works now everyone gets a little something.
Add on...and yes I can deal without the prone. I abused the hell out of it in my BF2 days : ) *prone to own*
Rajun Cajun
02-01-2010, 10:22 PM
Anyone play on a "Hardcore" server yet? Played one earlier today. Couldn't tell a difference in hit damage, but there were no iron sights.
LordBeer
02-01-2010, 10:35 PM
Anyone play on a "Hardcore" server yet? Played one earlier today. Couldn't tell a difference in hit damage, but there were no iron sights.
I jumped into one earlier. Other then not having a damn clue how to aim with the grenade launcher, I had no idea what the difference was.
FiLTHY_SNiPER
02-02-2010, 05:28 PM
The amount of damage a player can take kind of pisses me off. I find myself shooting someone then stopping because I assume they're already dead and I want to conserve ammo (this is usually point blank).
A lot of the time they aren't dead and instead are able to quick shot me in the face making me the loser of a corpse.
Oh and Ragan, please stop killing me.
Thanks in advance.
:P
SnaKe
02-02-2010, 07:20 PM
... Honestly, it doesnt bother me much that prone wont be in the game. The guns seems to have a tad more recoil then I'm used to. (I had almost 25% accuracy in BF2, in BC2 it's about 10%) It's difficult enough trying to hit someone off in the distance. I figure there is enough cover in the form of foliage for people to hide behind. (As Filthy said) I never was much of a sniper though. I know I started to ween myself off of prone & own during 2142. I was fine with this because running into a 'Professional' dolphin diver was just ridiculous. I'd have to just laugh at those goobers being 'leet'.
I still think there is a lot of teamwork in BC2. Medics still rez people, Assault guys help out engineers reload their rockets, and snipers can C4 the target. Everyone needs to help spot targets to know when a tank is rolling in or spot guys hiding behind a roadblock. (Press Q while they're in your sights FYI) You also need team communication. So the last guy alive in the squad doesnt go Rambo and get his ass shot off trying to take a tank head on.
I think BC2 is a more fast paced game then BF2. If you're not down the hill quickly the 1st map part while attacking, you're kinda boned because all the cover will have been destroyed. However, I wouldnt call it run and gun. CoD was run and gun. You'll run out of ammo WAY to fast trying to pull CoD moves in BC2. I usually piss away most of assault rifle magazine just trying to put down one guy in BC2. With only 90 rounds of ammo, I usually need to resupply after 2 guys! I sure as hell am going to fire and maneuver because my cover will be blown to bits if I'm lucky enough to blast a few guys.
It's a much more dynamic battlefield then any of us are used to. I like it. Other then the FPS issues..That's good to hear LB.
...Add on...and yes I can deal without the prone. I abused the hell out of it in my BF2 days : ) *prone to own*Yeah, I remember that! :hehehe: Many times!
Killerfurby6
02-03-2010, 01:48 AM
wait??? you can play it without sitting in an armor piece and owning the whole other team???? damn , why nobody told me about.... j/k
well after i reached level 11 yesterday, all i can say is this will be a kick ass game when its released!! i like the engine.. ok the snow is a bit anoying, i mean its hard to see the enemy's if you or anybody else just shot a tree...
but i am pretty sure people will love it (i do)
btw i need to mention the awesome engineer work , Tavs and some other buddy's did, without their help its allmoast impossible to get 10k points every round!!
thx fellas!!
i also like that you can still shoot down attack choppers with one shot of the tank cannon!! Get some:minigun:
and don't forget if you see me in a tank and you are still alive, you might be in my team :D
JustMeBF2
02-03-2010, 08:59 AM
Love the game enough to adapt to any of the parts I don't care for.
Just need good browser support and friends list to work always.
Yesterday people could join me but I couldn't join others.
Little info my son (Justason) discovered yesterday and we went into an empty server for him to show me.
If you are an engineer and cornered right beside an enemy armor you can destroy it with your repair kit.
One charge of the kit would do 50% damage on the tank.
gatorone2420
02-04-2010, 04:58 AM
I can't wait to try the new Battlefield. I remember awesomeness of Battlefield 1942 and the countless hours of Battlefield Bad Company (I am an Armor officer so I loved playing with the tanks and APCs). Can't wait to try the new Battlefield.
JustMeBF2
02-04-2010, 09:00 AM
I can't wait to try the new Battlefield. I remember awesomeness of Battlefield 1942 and the countless hours of Battlefield Bad Company (I am an Armor officer so I loved playing with the tanks and APCs). Can't wait to try the new Battlefield.
Keys at fileplanet for non subscribers now.
http://www.warishellgaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25731
Crotch-Rot
02-05-2010, 10:27 AM
Where are the rest of you guys? Me, Aeromotor, icepick, hellcat have been ripping it up in the demo for the past several nites. It's awesome running around in a squad with people that you can talk to and depend upon to fix your tank or provide ammo/health, etc. it takes gaming to the next level!!!
Bummer that I can't play until next week...
Rajun Cajun
02-05-2010, 10:55 AM
Where are the rest of you guys? Me, Aeromotor, icepick, hellcat have been ripping it up in the demo for the past several nites. It's awesome running around in a squad with people that you can talk to and depend upon to fix your tank or provide ammo/health, etc. it takes gaming to the next level!!!
Bummer that I can't play until next week...
Late nights for me. 10PM CST. Been runnin' with Beer, Kegg and Murdock as usual. You guys need to stay up later.:)
Hellcat
02-05-2010, 01:04 PM
I'll be doing PR tonight, then it's BFBC2 all weekend :D... LET'S ROCK!!!!
Drayu
02-05-2010, 01:09 PM
Where are the rest of you guys? Me, Aeromotor, icepick, hellcat have been ripping it up in the demo for the past several nites. It's awesome running around in a squad with people that you can talk to and depend upon to fix your tank or provide ammo/health, etc. it takes gaming to the next level!!!
Bummer that I can't play until next week...
it is a bummer... :( Too bad you you aren't around for PR either :( Well, at least you got the computer running and kicking ass!
And where have I been? If it is apparent, then I am not saying.
Crotch-Rot
02-05-2010, 01:19 PM
I'm booked up tonite and then I have my son this whole weekend. So no gaming for me at all until Mon or Tue at the earliest...
FiLTHY_SNiPER
02-05-2010, 05:02 PM
Crotch, I never see you online in the friends list.
I only see Ragan, Beer and Drayu so far. The friends list system is probably borked.
I'll jump on TS next time I'm on.
Ragan
02-05-2010, 05:59 PM
I have 8 people on my list and never see anyone on, even though I know they are in game.
SnaKe
02-05-2010, 06:38 PM
Where are the rest of you guys? Me, Aeromotor, icepick, hellcat have been ripping it up in the demo for the past several nites. It's awesome running around in a squad with people that you can talk to and depend upon to fix your tank or provide ammo/health, etc. it takes gaming to the next level!!!
Bummer that I can't play until next week...Need a new PC but I'm working on it.
LordBeer
02-05-2010, 08:40 PM
I read a little rumor about the friends list. I guess even though the list isnt showing someone as online, you can still use the join game function to hop in on their server. I havent had a chance to try it out myself though. Anyone get it to work?
Drayu
02-05-2010, 08:43 PM
yup, as long as you know they are online, you can join their server by click the arrow on the far right of the buddy list
LordBeer
02-05-2010, 08:44 PM
yup, as long as you know they are online, you can join their server by click the arrow on the far right of the buddy list
Thank god.. This should save everyone about 20mins when trying to get together.
Rajun Cajun
02-05-2010, 11:15 PM
Great...now if I could get all of my friends list to show up. Added and requested at least 15 people...only two show up right now.
Rajun Cajun
02-05-2010, 11:19 PM
I'm himayalin' and I'm playin'...alcohol involved...
EDIT: What happened here...?
FiLTHY_SNiPER
02-06-2010, 12:42 PM
Yeah I've added a bunch of you guys but only 3 of you show up on my friends list. I'll just jump on TS.
ICEPICK
02-06-2010, 03:35 PM
my friends list doesnt work
Leadfoot
02-06-2010, 03:42 PM
Anyone know if there is any way to save kit setups a la Call of duty? Its kind of annoying having to switch your guns and gadgets after every game.
JustMeBF2
02-06-2010, 10:17 PM
Anyone know if there is any way to save kit setups a la Call of duty? Its kind of annoying having to switch your guns and gadgets after every game.
No and
this is very similar to the kit selection in BF2142.
After very much play (level 11) I think this game is very similar
to BF2142 in many ways.
I need to research the other game mode for the release version.
PS I can see peeps on my friends list and they can join me via friends list,
but I can't join anyone else via friends list. (This is the reason I have not been in TS while playing)
JustMeBF2
02-07-2010, 12:29 AM
More on POS friends list.
So some guy yell at me in xfire to come play BC2.
I am like ok but my friends list is fubar blah blah.
I pick the server and they will join me.
OK
So I pick a server and OMG there is four weeties there.
Get going doing some damage. Picked up a [WEET] dog tag.
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5048/donnib.jpg
Thanks.....
Anywho next thing I crash to desktop.
No problem I picked the server from my favourites.
WTF the server is no longer in my favourites.
I am probably done with the beta.
I am optimistic the retail release will be better.
Ragan
02-07-2010, 08:19 AM
I am about worn down from the beta, I know they released it so early in hopes of finding more bugs and such, but game play wise I am ready for the full version so I will probably be playing less. Can't wait for March.
FiLTHY_SNiPER
02-07-2010, 11:55 AM
I haven't been able to play much but last time I played I was getting really frustrated with not only the amount of rounds it takes to kill someone - I find that sometimes I stop shooting before the enemy's actually dead since I just assume it's been enough - but also the amount of exploits people use like climbing on top of hills that shouldn't be climbable as well as methods that blow up the objectives within seconds of starting the round.
Don't get me wrong though, the game is fucking great. I just hope they fix some things for the full game.
Looking forward to playing on a WiH server.
[W33T] Joker
02-08-2010, 07:56 PM
i played little bit yesterday and i thought they did good job with game so far..make you feel like bf2 but with new maps and new model..there are few thing i hate when you in this game..like motion screen..when you running or in tank...i hope there is way to turn that thing off.
Grim_Scythe
02-09-2010, 11:54 AM
So I finally played it and found out I was trying to run the game on medium with a GT220 turn it down to low settings and boom smooth.
I kind of like how they merged classes together sort of force a squad to have 1 of each. I do like the destructible enivornment a lot. So fun to blow a wall behind someone that just ran to cover.
It seems like AK is underpowered and inaccuarte, imo that needs to be fixed. I never liked hijacking opponents tanks wish that was fixed.
redish16
02-12-2010, 01:48 AM
I finally unlocked and received everything.
I have to say, the 4x and 12x recon scopes are sweet. I was getting on target and killing much faster. The red dot on the medic is sweet too. Nothing like going to town with the M249 SAW with a red dot.
The Thompson is under powered. It should have no distance and killer damage up close and it doesn't. The XM8 is the assault gun is the gun to use. Best balance.
The third sniper rifle is ok, but the m24 seems to me the best. I don't like the second gun at all, even though it is semi automatic.
The Carl Gustaf is much better than the RPG, but the RPG is soooooo much fun to shoot. Haven't really played around with the tracer gun yet.
the .45 is the best pistol as well. It will put someone down in 2-3 shots. I like that they have dogtags as well.
I can't wait til release when we have our own server and no lag.
Wibby
02-12-2010, 02:25 AM
The more I play this game the more I like it. Nothing like getting in a squad with some WIH players and whooping some ass.
LordBeer
02-12-2010, 02:47 AM
The more I play this game the more I like it. Nothing like getting in a squad with some WIH players and whooping some ass.
We has some serious firefights going on earlier! I cant wait for the final product. (Or just a new map)
FiLTHY_SNiPER
02-12-2010, 01:54 PM
Yeah I've been playing this game with Wibb, Beer, Aero and Coran mostly and with us in a squad we definitely whoop some ass.
What server(s) do the rest of you guys play on?
I'm on TS every time I play now, so just ask me what server I'm/we're on.
Question: Anyone know how the tracer works in terms of heat seeking? Does it make RPG missiles hone onto the target.
I've been using the tracer gun a lot, and although I get points for tracing a target and tracer damage bonus, I'm still unsure as to whether it allows missiles to heat seek or not.
Crotch-Rot
02-12-2010, 02:04 PM
since when can an RPG home in on a beacon? This game is totally unrealistic! WTF, I'm boycotting it! =)
redish16
02-12-2010, 02:59 PM
The tracer dart I don't think homes in the RPG or the Carl Gustaf. Maybe the stationary TOW.
I think the dart is going to be used more for the Bradley TOW. To my knowledge, the RPG and Carl Gustafs are not steerable munitions, not in real life anyway. I don't know about the game.
papasan9
02-12-2010, 03:03 PM
since when can an RPG home in on a beacon? This game is totally unrealistic! WTF, I'm boycotting it! =)
it is totally unrealistic.. im with you.. lets boycott it together... say midnight tonight... the park, mens restroom... stalls 3 & 4???? we can glory-hole this game out of existence....
but seriously folks, i have been enjoying it. havent spent near as much time as i have wanted on it. hope to see some of you on tonight.
Wibby
02-12-2010, 03:15 PM
The RPG and the Carl will both home in on the tracer dart. You just need to lock on to the target before you fire.
Crotch-Rot
02-12-2010, 03:48 PM
The RPG and the Carl will both home in on the tracer dart. You just need to lock on to the target before you fire.
That's so odd that they have the RPG home in on the tracer.
papasan9
02-12-2010, 04:07 PM
one of the first trailers shows the opfor tracing a bradley and then the dude fires the rpg in the opposite direction and it makes uturn and hits the bradley.
FiLTHY_SNiPER
02-12-2010, 04:48 PM
Hmm ok thanks Wibb I'll try that tonight
it is totally unrealistic.. im with you.. lets boycott it together... say midnight tonight... the park, mens restroom... stalls 3 & 4???? we can glory-hole this game out of existence....
Holy fucking LOL Papa!
Crotch-Rot
02-12-2010, 05:10 PM
it is totally unrealistic.. im with you.. lets boycott it together... say midnight tonight... the park, mens restroom... stalls 3 & 4???? we can glory-hole this game out of existence....
Get ready for my heat-seeking RPG thru the glory-hole papasan. =)
papasan9
02-12-2010, 05:17 PM
i think i get the brown-eye armor upgrade with the pre-order... dont have in beta tho .. i think your rpg would definately destroy me :woot::woot::woot:
Crotch-Rot
02-12-2010, 05:18 PM
LOL ahahaha! =)
FiLTHY_SNiPER
02-12-2010, 05:57 PM
Holy derailed into sexual innuendo batman!
redish16
02-12-2010, 06:24 PM
As per usual
SnaKe
02-12-2010, 07:09 PM
:lol:
Crotch-Rot
02-12-2010, 09:08 PM
Holy derailed into homosexual innuendo batman!
Fixed it for you... :welcome:
MajorSystemError
02-13-2010, 07:01 AM
Holy fuck you guys crack me up... :lol:
Wibby
02-14-2010, 01:25 AM
Wow another really fun night tonight. Now if only that bullshit C4 tactic could be taken care of.
Wow another really fun night tonight. Now if only that bullshit C4 tactic could be taken care of.
They've already said for release it'll take 15+ C4 to take care of the issue.
LordBeer
02-14-2010, 02:35 AM
Wow another really fun night tonight. Now if only that bullshit C4 tactic could be taken care of.
Yeah.. That BS really isnt much fun. Had a great round on offense. Wonderful firefights and some real tooth and nails action.. Then on D, they pull that BS and take out every point in a few minutes. Cleaned out most of the server and left me with a bad taste in my mouth..
Cant wait for the real release so that shit wont be as common. I dunno if people think that they're keeping their stats or what. That just isnt much fun in my opinion. Tactics like that are the equivalent of masturbation.. You might think you're bad ass but you're just jerking yourself. Bah!
papasan9
02-14-2010, 12:15 PM
Yeah.. That BS really isnt much fun. Had a great round on offense. Wonderful firefights and some real tooth and nails action.. Then on D, they pull that BS and take out every point in a few minutes. Cleaned out most of the server and left me with a bad taste in my mouth..
Cant wait for the real release so that shit wont be as common. I dunno if people think that they're keeping their stats or what. That just isnt much fun in my opinion. Tactics like that are the equivalent of masturbation.. You might think you're bad ass but you're just jerking yourself. Bah!
thats funny. I agree with your statements, but its still alot of fun for me. I will say this, I do not enjoy this game when im on the team getting rolled. most games i enjoy anyway, it really is irritating to see that uav come in headed straight for those points.
but, its also kinda fun looking out for the flying bomb and trying to shoot it down. Also, it is going to be a loooooooooooooooooooooong time before destructable environments get old.
i have really been enjoying getting into armor, then finding the most destructive route to drive... driving thru everything i can.. just awesome.
im also enjoying getting on mounted tow... and punching holes thru all the walls etc. until i get a clear shot at a vehicle approach. really fun..
FiLTHY_SNiPER
02-14-2010, 01:48 PM
What's the C4 exploit? They strap a bunch to the UAV and bomb dive the objectives?
I'm guilty of doing the ATV bomb a lot. I do it pretty much in every assault round :P
Wibby
02-14-2010, 02:57 PM
What's the C4 exploit? They strap a bunch to the UAV and bomb dive the objectives?
I'm guilty of doing the ATV bomb a lot. I do it pretty much in every assault round :P
The attackers use C4 to blow the M-COM stations up instead of arming the charge and allowing the defenders the opportunity to disarm it.
FiLTHY_SNiPER
02-14-2010, 03:07 PM
Oh, I thought that was a legitimate strategy, no?
If a sniper can actually infiltrate the building or area long enough to plant explosives and let er rip, I don't really see a problem.
It's the defender's faults, really.
The ATV bomb is kind of cheap though, lol :P
Ragan
02-14-2010, 05:43 PM
C4'ing the objective doesn't take long, most snipers just run in and run past it putting down a block and continue on their way, there is no difficulty
FiLTHY_SNiPER
02-14-2010, 06:21 PM
Ah, ok. Hasn't really happened much in the games I've been in so I guess I haven't experienced how annoying it can be.
redish16
02-14-2010, 06:41 PM
We were playing last night and the round lasted less than five minutes because they C4'd every objective. It only takes a block or two to do the job.
Very annoying.
Why are you guys even complaining about the C4ing of objectives. It makes the game more fun. How boring is it when a team is getting rolled or you're on the team getting rolled. A well placed C4 ATV makes it more fun and people get to move to the next stage that isn't a bottleneck without any cover on the first map.
Hell the guys on ATVs make awesome moving targets. Practice shooting them off the ATV. It's one of the better tactics I enjoy because it actually keeps the game moving. Sure I get kinda peeved when they just charge in and then I get cheezed out of a good defense but oh well there are two sides to every coin.
Ragan
02-14-2010, 07:41 PM
They arn't talking about C4 ATVs, its the guy running in a planting C4 directly on the objective thats upsetting them.
JustMeBF2
02-14-2010, 08:12 PM
I am waiting to see the other games types.
The C4 regardless of ran in or drove in seems to unbalance the game.
Of course if it was changed that would unbalance it the other way.
Part of it is team work.
redish16
02-14-2010, 09:08 PM
One of the things that cheeses me off is that they blew two sets of objectives while I am still at the first.
The defenders running up on snipers hill for more than 10 seconds is starting to get up there as well. Tonight I was at the back of the hill and was knifed. How is that even possible in ten seconds ?
papasan9
02-14-2010, 09:20 PM
i got the tracer dart tonight. that changes everything. dart then rocket, dart then rocket...
i darted and destroyed vehicles and mounted guns. i darted a dude running, was shooting rockets at his ass too. i wasnt shooting the dart at him, but it stuck.
and my unique experience of the day.. i was defending far back and by the pipes/water. i was crouched behind rock and i realized there was a heli noise next to me. looked right and the uav had been flown along the shore to our back and was getting ready to pop up next to me on other side of pipes. only half a mag from rifle took it down, nose to nose with it.
:minigun:
Ragan
02-15-2010, 01:36 AM
One of the things that cheeses me off is that they blew two sets of objectives while I am still at the first.
The defenders running up on snipers hill for more than 10 seconds is starting to get up there as well. Tonight I was at the back of the hill and was knifed. How is that even possible in ten seconds ?
They steal the ATV and you can drive it top speed to the UAV control box and kill a few people before dying.
Ragan
02-15-2010, 01:38 AM
i got the tracer dart tonight. that changes everything. dart then rocket, dart then rocket...
i darted and destroyed vehicles and mounted guns. i darted a dude running, was shooting rockets at his ass too. i wasnt shooting the dart at him, but it stuck.
and my unique experience of the day.. i was defending far back and by the pipes/water. i was crouched behind rock and i realized there was a heli noise next to me. looked right and the uav had been flown along the shore to our back and was getting ready to pop up next to me on other side of pipes. only half a mag from rifle took it down, nose to nose with it.
:minigun:
My unique gaming experience, the Apache was rocking us bad. The guys in the light tank wouldn't take it out or couldn't. I was up on the hill and saw the apache just hovering while it sighted targets. I had the M-24. I put two rounds into the pilots head and killed him causing the helo to crash. The gunner never knew what happened till it was too late. Everyone on my team kept asking me if I had FRAPS running, but alas, I had turned it off.
redish16
02-15-2010, 02:32 AM
I gotta give them props for that, I wouldn't have thought of that
FiLTHY_SNiPER
02-15-2010, 12:30 PM
Yeah Papa, I'm all about that tracer dart now. It's great.
My unique gaming experience, the Apache was rocking us bad. The guys in the light tank wouldn't take it out or couldn't. I was up on the hill and saw the apache just hovering while it sighted targets. I had the M-24. I put two rounds into the pilots head and killed him causing the helo to crash. The gunner never knew what happened till it was too late. Everyone on my team kept asking me if I had FRAPS running, but alas, I had turned it off.
Ragan you sniped the pilot? Badass.
EANeuspeed
02-15-2010, 09:24 PM
I want a beta key.:(
redish16
02-15-2010, 10:18 PM
You need one speed?
I still have an extra one if you need it.
PM me.
EANeuspeed
02-15-2010, 11:07 PM
You need one speed?
I still have an extra one if you need it.
PM me.
Awesome. PM sent.
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