It's official!

[wihadmin]

In patch v1.03, EA will officially rename the Blackhawk to the WhoreHawk.

:flipoff:

:D

[dbodenheim]

I thought they were toning the gatling guns down. Am i confused?

[Kev Kanos]

WIHamdin is drunk again I think. I thought they were beefing up the other helis, not toning down the BH.

[DinkyPoopStick]

WIHamdin is drunk again I think. I thought they were beefing up the other helis, not toning down the BH.
thats what my source tells me too.

[GroovyDude]

They need to increase the power of the stingers. I was killed by the BH yesterday after firing two stingers into it's underbelly while it was hovering a few feet over me. That's just stupid....

[atomicbob]

Beef up the stingers, and make it so you can't cap by hovering over a flag.

That's my opinion and I'm stickin to it.

While I agree it works real good for getting points, and I've done my share, you have to put the troops on the ground to capture something.

P.S. I know I'm echoing sentiments already written here.

The guys that feel the same as me.....are really cool.

:beer:

[Å|ArchBuck]

god dammit... so bullshit...

the BH is overpowered on some maps, I agree... but they could balance this... make the stingers hit them a little easier and make them do more damage to the BH

NOT what they did with the 1.01/1.02 patch... which was to make the humvee (and corresponding MEC / Chinese vehicles) guns absolutely deadly...

you want to shoot down a BH? use the humvee...NOTHING will take it down quicker other then ramming the BH with a plane... so bulshit... I agree it is overpowering in some maps... but making a machine gun kill it so fast is rediculus... a humvee gun can rip a BH down before the BH can destroy the humvee

Only advantage is the BH has a better chance to kill the gunner on the Humvee then the humvee gunner has to shoot out the BH gunner

[Å|ArchBuck]

all in all, I am happy with the BH... yes, it does take team work to take it down... 3 RPG's at once will do it... but then again, it takes team work to fly it well as well... so I think it is very good to have it... just easier to not work together as much when you are flying it then it takes to shoot it down... *shrug* in clan matches, the BH doesn't really hold that strong of a position... at least not if the opposition team has half-a-brain...

[RiverSteve]

I am kinda frustrated with bringing the BH down. I caught it low enough to launch a grenade in the back with it full and only got one kill and it wasn't the gunner I was facing so right after the grenade explodes I get a face full of mini gun. Come on!!!!

[Nsane]

I don't know why guys complain about the blackhawk, if you don't like it jump in one, i love the blackhawk and I think it should stay as is :rockon:

[Kossori]

It's not SO much that the blackhawk is overpowered as the anti-air sucks in this game and the MEC and China have flying boxes that may as well not have guns.

They also need to fix the magic evasive barrier helicopters seem to have since flares or not missiles seems to veer off course at the last second before impact and go hit a teamate.

[karl_58sow]

MEC attack chopper > blackhawk

[RiverSteve]

It's not SO much that the blackhawk is overpowered as the anti-air sucks in this game and the MEC and China have flying boxes that may as well not have guns.

They also need to fix the magic evasive barrier helicopters seem to have since flares or not missiles seems to veer off course at the last second before impact and go hit a teamate.

Yes the ole press the omega key while flying the BH and enemy missles are redirected to the closest enemy asset filled with people itching to punish for TK. :wallbash:

Yes, that would be a nice fix.

[Å|ArchBuck]

rofl ... MEC is a flying box...the ONLY thing it has on blackhawk is slightly higher manuverability...

[TrinitronX]

Heh... imagine a custom skin that was a cardboard box, held together with duct tape XD. That'd be awesome.

[atomicbob]

If everyone jumped in a BH, the game would blow even worse.

Is it a good strategy? Yes.

Is it kinda realistic, no.

Does it make the game kinda suck by capping flag after flag and no really taking control of real estate? yes.

The whole thing blows and makes the game suxors worse than it does.

You want to get every little point made available to you in the constraints of the game, sit in the back of a chopper and watch your medals tallie up.

But keep in mind I give a rat's ass about your medals and will be calling you a puss the whole time you are afraid to play the game are taking this tactic.

Ha!! In your face girly men.

Let me see....shall I jump in a choppper and ride around gathering points, while repairing the chopper with all my skills? Or shall I actually attack something and kill someone and be respected?

Let's see.....Take advantage of the game's shortsightedness and get a big, artificially inflated score so as to get laid by chicks who think I'm a hero, or play the game and kick on that ass, blowing people away by my superior combat, or other, skills, realizing that I will NOT get laid by anyone, despite my global score.


hmmmmmm....

I think I would rather have fun playing the game as opposed to riding wrenh in a flag hoping chopper.

Screw a bunch of medals and points

But y'all can do what you like........Girly boys

:jerkit:

Maybe a little much?

Ahhhhh..................screw it.

[Paul30]

I'm agreeing with the anti-air posts here..if you way up the anti-air equipment and give engineers maybe even a shoulder stinger that would stop the heli clipping all together...

I wouldn't ever get in a black hawk again unless I had to but then I would bail as soon as I saw land...

*EDIT* I do like how the black hawks can be brough down by a single RPG round in real life, but as pointed out, a stinger missle to the belly just hurts it a bit in the game...

[Ramis]

I think they should replace the Black Hawk with an electronic scooter equipped with an automatic machine gun attachment.

Just my opinion of course.

Edit: oh, and laser beams.

[Paul30]

Yes there you go...a Vespa Atack Scooter...

[RiverSteve]

I think they should replace the Black Hawk with an electronic scooter equipped with an automatic machine gun attachment.

Just my opinion of course.

Edit: oh, and laser beams.
The scooter from BFV with a mini gun, three seats (driver, medic,& engineer) , and plays flight of the valkyrie continuously.

[Paul30]

Note to self....No more Vietnam movies for River Steve

[RiverSteve]

That was one of my favorite things to do in BFV. Operation Irving, scooter whoring, and flight of the valkyrie. Most of the guys on the other side were laughing too much to kill me. You might have seen me there I was
and still am Dead Man Walking]R|M[.

[Å|ArchBuck]

again I will state that although you can easily do well with a blackhawk... I also will state that 3+ people on the ground can take down a blackhawk quicker then the BH gunners can find the jeeps to shoot them...

It is NOT that overpowered... there just isn't very much teamwork on the ground working to nuetralize it...

Put it this way... if there were 5 people on the ground running together and not separating, what happens? they own the map... Our clan does this often... jump in a server, group up and go from flag to flag... unless you run into another group on the other side doing the same, you can own doing this... the BH is the same thing, it just allows noobs to work together (cause it forces them to)... a small crew on the ground can take them down... not overpowering... just overpowering on regular servers... ESPECIALLY ranked ones

[wihadmin]

Put it this way... if there were 5 people on the ground running together and not separating, what happens?

They get arty falling on them. Then they all die together in a bunch. I will stand in front of congress and testify to this.

[Ramis]

Put it this way... if there were 5 people on the ground running together and not separating, what happens?

They get arty falling on them. Then they all die together in a bunch. I will stand in front of congress and testify to this.

I concur. :hammer: Blasted Artillery. We had a great squad last night, and we took out a ton of copters/planes at a good AA position. But then the mighty Arty dropped and owned us good.

[atomicbob]

Put it this way... if there were 5 people on the ground running together and not separating, what happens?

They get arty falling on them. Then they all die together in a bunch. I will stand in front of congress and testify to this.

Or I find them with an APC and send the whole pack to the spawning grounds.

:sniper:

[Å|ArchBuck]

Put it this way... if there were 5 people on the ground running together and not separating, what happens?

They get arty falling on them. Then they all die together in a bunch. I will stand in front of congress and testify to this.


ROFL, yeah I guess... they have to be careful of that and jets from air with bombers

[Merlinex]

Two Decent people in assault chopper > BH with 6 people.

1 Tank positioned correctly waiting for the incoming chopper > BH with 6 people.

1 Anti Tank, who has a mobile Sam at his side > BH with 6 people.

Its not overpowering, it does take teamwork and is easier to work as a team in the BH then on the ground.

The only maps that need more AA is when there are no other air vehicles available to combat BHs. If you added more AA it would make choppers on any of the bigger maps completely useless.

For me, BHs == 4-6 Kills. Use some tactics and they go down pretty easy.

Skill wise, flying BHs takes some skill. Gunning takes a small amount of skill. Repairing ... well no that doesn't take any skill really, but it is necessary to make the whole thing work. The tactic does take some skill and coordination, so I'd hardly belittle the tactic when the fact is often its not that hard to combat but people just prefer to not pay attention, charge into bases and shoot people on the ground. Instead of surveying areas and setting up to get 4-6 kills.

[monos]

Put it this way... if there were 5 people on the ground running together and not separating, what happens?

They get arty falling on them. Then they all die together in a bunch. I will stand in front of congress and testify to this.


fired by none other than The Real Monos :yaya:

[Ramis]

Two Decent people in assault chopper > BH with 6 people.

I'll have to agree there. Me and Shadow took out a ton of BH's last night with the assault chopter. Just a matter of getting behind them and blasting them with a cam-missile. :D I ended up having like 30 kills that round. (Boom, 6 kills from a BH, boom boom boom)

[Å|ArchBuck]

Two Decent people in assault chopper > BH with 6 people.


depends on the map, but yes, I agree... the most powerful weapon in the game (besides artillery) is on the assault chopper... but it takes a good gunner, a good pilot, and lots of communication to work well

[wihadmin]

8/10 co-pilots have no clue how to use the laser-guided tv missile.

[RiverSteve]

8/10 co-pilots have no clue how to use the laser-guided tv missile.

8/10 pilots have no clue how to line the co-pilot up for the shot.

[wihadmin]

8/10 co-pilots have no clue how to use the laser-guided tv missile.

8/10 pilots have no clue how to line the co-pilot up for the shot.

9/10 co-pilots take entirely way to long to line up for a shot. The cursor moves around fellas!!! Use your mouse!

[RiverSteve]

8/10 co-pilots have no clue how to use the laser-guided tv missile.

8/10 pilots have no clue how to line the co-pilot up for the shot.

9/10 co-pilots take entirely way to long to line up for a shot. The cursor moves around fellas!!! Use your mouse!

9/10 pilots want you to take the shot with the chopper full throttle nose diving or tail spinning.

[wihadmin]

What else can they do when the co-pilots sucks?

[RiverSteve]

Since I try to pilot as well as co-pilot, I'll agree.

[Drayu]

What else can they do when the co-pilots sucks?

Kind of hard to be a good co-pilot when the pilot is spinning wildly and crashing you into the ground :D :jester: :yaya:

[The Needle]

Speaking of which, does anyone else have the problem of their mouse being inverted on the camera screen? I am going to reset all my controls to default and remap but DAMN thats annoying and makes me a terrible shot.

[SLCoran]

I agree with both RiverSteve and Admin. I'm getting used to the tv guided to where I hit 70-80% of the time provided the pilot points me in the direction and keeps it still for 3 seconds :yaya: . Sometimes I feel I need to tell the pilots how fly so I can shoot because to use the tv guided missle you have to point the chopper at the target first. :wallbash:

[Ramis]

Thats why I loved riding co-pilot with Shadow, hes an awesome copter pilot and lined up all the shots for me with the tv-guided missiles. In fact, if I screwed up, it was almost always my fault for shooting to early. (Or shooting our team, oops!)

[wihadmin]

What else can they do when the co-pilots sucks?

Kind of hard to be a good co-pilot when the pilot is spinning wildly and crashing you into the ground :D :jester: :yaya:

That was me for the past 2 nights. Can't fly for shit!

Also, I'm just arguing b/c I wanted to argue with RiverSTeve. :)

[Merlinex]

I agree with both RiverSteve and Admin. I'm getting used to the tv guided to where I hit 70-80% of the time provided the pilot points me in the direction and keeps it still for 3 seconds :yaya: . Sometimes I feel I need to tell the pilots how fly so I can shoot because to use the tv guided missle you have to point the chopper at the target first. :wallbash:

As a pilot or co-pilot, I find it very useful for the other person to be in the same squad as I. Then if I see a chopper I can just VOIP "camera" and i'll line them up giving em a short window for them to take the shot. If i'm co-pilot and I am warned, I'll switch in early.

Thing is 3 secs -- you can be a sitting duck, a good team will get the shots off quicker then that.

[GorroXXII]

What else can they do when the co-pilots sucks?

Kind of hard to be a good co-pilot when the pilot is spinning wildly and crashing you into the ground :D :jester: :yaya:

That was me for the past 2 nights. Can't fly for shit!

Also, I'm just arguing b/c I wanted to argue with RiverSTeve. :)

Tsk Tsk tsk... WIHAdmin, the customer is always right...

I love being Co Pilot, but the pilot is the one that makes the whole difference... I only jump in when I know the pilot, I also have been practicing myself, and must say I like it now more than POE, though I still think it was easier to fly in POE, definitely liking the jets as well. The attack choppers are (IMO) useless with out a copilot

[Paul30]

Shadow is a good pilot....I wish he could have gotten that screen shot where I took out the fleeing black hawk with a TV missle....

Those poor bastards never saw it coming...