London Again...

[Å|Ragan]

I hope that this is just a sick joke, or one of the publishers making a point that bombs can still be put on the trains. Either way someone is getting nailed.

[wihadmin]

Hope all the members that are in London and the rest of UK is ok. Please drop a post here and let us know you're alright.

[Blis]

The London ambulance service has said they didnt pick up any casualties relating to the explosions although the news had reported one injury but this seems to have been someone that checked themselves into hospital and hasnt yet been confirmed if its related.

[Persephone]

Kemiks can move to the burrow with me. Clearly Hogwarts isnt safe anymore. (Hope that made you chuckle when you read this Kemiks!)

Mwuah! Hope you and your bro are safe and anyone else who lives in London here or that you all know.

[kem$]

LOL! Pers!

Bombs were found in central london.. But thankfully nothing went off.

[DinkyPoopStick]

Kemiks can move to the burrow with me. Clearly Hogwarts isnt safe anymore.
But they additional security in place that they are keeping secret. I don't even know what it is yet(as of chapter 7)



Seriously though, if these are middle eastern terrorists that are trying to scare Engald into withdrawing troops from Afgan and Iraq, they are deeply mistaken, England is not like Spain (voting in a new pres and withdrawning troops after that train bomb last year) or France (pulling out of "Iraqi freedom" after less then a month) and will not pull out because of some bombs. They are like the US and will just get more pissed and send more troops.

I am NOT condoning US or Englands involvment in Iraq, I am simply saying England will not back down.

[Verruckter]

Somebody set up us the bomb! Those gus aren't intelligent enough to do so!

I just laughed when I learned that the bombs didn't go off correctly.

[Bonez]

they didn't go off at all, they weren't supposedly set.

[kem$]

A suspect got shot in stockwell station today.. And that's like 30 mins away from where I live.

[Phenix]

A suspect got shot in stockwell station today.. And that's like 30 mins away from where I live.

:O

[Persephone]

British Police Brutality! I read he was fleeing and they threw him to the ground and shot him. Lol What happened Kemiks? Give me the 411!!!

[moldykorn]

This whole bombing business is very fishy.


What better to calm unrest in your country than to bomb it and turn the people for your cause?

[kem$]

British Police Brutality! I read he was fleeing and they threw him to the ground and shot him. Lol What happened Kemiks? Give me the 411!!!

I don't know exactly what happened, But I heard that the Terrorist tried to plant the bomb at B, But the CT's saw him and..... BOOOOOOM!! HEADSHOT!!

[Phenix]

I don't know exactly what happened, But I heard that the Terrorist tried to plant the bomb at B, But the CT's saw him and..... BOOOOOOM!! HEADSHOT!!

HAHAHAHA!! :hehehe: :crazy: I like that after all this you can have a sense of humor about it...can't let them stop us from being happy and can't let them stop us from living our lives...

[kem$]

^ I find it hard to get concerned if I'm not directly affected by it.

News just in: The guy shot wasn't a Terrorist, He was innocent. They killed a hostie :thumbsdown:

[wihadmin]

^ I find it hard to get concerned if I'm not directly affected by it.

News just in: The guy shot wasn't a Terrorist, He was innocent. They killed a hostie :thumbsdown:

Some Brazilian tourist from what I read in the news. When are people going to learn that when the police is chasing you, you do NOT run away. Especially right after a bombing a week earlier, while your wearing a trench coat, while jumping over a gate at the train station....

Not to be insensitive but how would it play out if this guy was really a whacko with bombs and the police didnt' shoot? It sux that an innocent was killed but under the circumstances, I don't know how it could have gone any other way.

[kem$]

Yeah but imagine to non uniformed officers suddenly chasing you.. Man, I'd run too.

The only reason he ran is cause he was an illegal immigrant.

[wihadmin]

The only reason he ran is cause he was an illegal immigrant.

Now it makes sense.

[loopcycle]

he was a brazilian immigrant. its not clear whether he was an "illegal".
apparently, he was an electrician who may have been on his way to work.

with protection like this, who needs terrorists?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/07/25/nshoot25.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/07/25/ixnewstop.html

[Nelle]

Here's a picture of onna the buses from the London bombings....

NOT CHILDREN OR WORK SAFE!!
...that's why I'm putting it as a link and not just posting it...

http://crazyshit.com/site/pics/images/bus_bombing.jpg[/b]

[snizel_88]

If the guy was stupid enought to run away from cops after there were bombings I can't blame the cops. Imagine if he did have a bomb and it exploded cuz the cops didnt' stop him, i would rather the cops do that then have some little kid die.

[kem$]

Man.. Bomb scare in a little place called Tooting, People arrested. Now this fucking scared me. I live 10 Mins away from tooting. My school is in tooting. I am so lucky I didn't go to school today... SO lucky.

[Bonez]

If the guy was stupid enought to run away from cops after there were bombings I can't blame the cops. Imagine if he did have a bomb and it exploded cuz the cops didnt' stop him, i would rather the cops do that then have some little kid die.bunch of guys in plain clothes with guns screaming at you and running at you, when you were mugged the day before.

think about it for a second.

[Redy]

I don't blame the cops either.

This is what's called the ripple effect.

It's not easy picking up a badge and then going out to protect the public. The cops are only human. It was an unfortunate event but ultimately the blame falls on the terrorist.

[Bonez]

It's not easy picking up a badge and then going out to protect the public. The cops are only human. It was an unfortunate event but ultimately the blame falls on the terrorist.wow, allot of people are not upto date.

ok lets go.

the guy was a Brazilian on vacation to britian, he was attacked the night before and robbed, he had a group of men run towards him yelling and holding guns(who were officers, but he didn't know that), he was chased, knocked down and shot point blank 5 times. only thing he did wrong was wear a jacket and be worried about his personal safety(in public i'm shifty looking too).

[Saur]

Lol, thought he was faster than a bullet. Thinking like that will get you kille-- err... well I guess he found out the hard way.

<3 Saur

[monos]

It's not easy picking up a badge and then going out to protect the public. The cops are only human. It was an unfortunate event but ultimately the blame falls on the terrorist.wow, allot of people are not upto date.

ok lets go.

the guy was a Brazilian on vacation to britian, he was attacked the night before and robbed, he had a group of men run towards him yelling and holding guns(who were officers, but he didn't know that), he was chased, knocked down and shot point blank 5 times. only thing he did wrong was wear a jacket and be worried about his personal safety(in public i'm shifty looking too).

Bonez you should just appoint yourself all powerful ruler of the world since you have the right anwser for everthing and know the details of everything that happens everywhere and know exactly what everyone did wrong and how it should have been done. even though you do have the details on the said deceased person wrong. i would suggest you follow dinkys advice.

[Bonez]

Bonez you should just appoint yourself all powerful ruler of the world since you have the right anwser for everthing and know the details of everything that happens everywhere and know exactly what everyone did wrong and how it should have been done. even though you do have the details on the said deceased person wrong. i would suggest you follow dinkys advice.yea and Scotland yard doesn't know what the hell their talking about

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4711021.stm
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/27/menezes.brazil/index.html

allready had to do this song and dance with a biggoted Swede.

ok so he wasn't on vacation, he was still chased by a bunch of men with guns, and was shot 8 times.

[DinkyPoopStick]

LOL you 1st argue that you are of course right


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4711021.stm
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/27/menezes.brazil/index.html

allready had to do this song and dance with a biggoted Swede.
then the very next line you say


ok so he wasn't on vacation, he was still chased by a bunch of men with guns, and was shot 8 times.
soooo you were WRONG...
:crazy:
:flipoff:

[Bonez]

LOL you 1st argue that you are of course right


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4711021.stm
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/27/menezes.brazil/index.html

allready had to do this song and dance with a biggoted Swede.
then the very next line you say


ok so he wasn't on vacation, he was still chased by a bunch of men with guns, and was shot 8 times.
soooo you were WRONG...
:crazy:
:flipoff:atleast i corrected myself.

[Saur]

OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH

Bonez: 2 Dinkz: -1

<3 Saur

[Multiplex]

ok so he wasn't on vacation, he was still chased by a bunch of men with guns, and was shot 8 times.

Yeah... next time I'm in a foreign city and I see uniformed officers running at me with guns... I'll be sure to take off running.

That'll get you shot just about anywhere... common sense dictates you should probably choose a simple course of action like... putting your hands in the air.

[Bonez]

ok so he wasn't on vacation, he was still chased by a bunch of men with guns, and was shot 8 times.Yeah... next time I'm in a foreign city and I see uniformed officers running at me with guns... I'll be sure to take off running.

That'll get you shot just about anywhere... common sense dictates you should probably choose a simple course of action like... putting your hands in the air.they weren't uniformed. ask anyone from britian, Street cops don't have guns.

[Multiplex]

ok so he wasn't on vacation, he was still chased by a bunch of men with guns, and was shot 8 times.Yeah... next time I'm in a foreign city and I see uniformed officers running at me with guns... I'll be sure to take off running.

That'll get you shot just about anywhere... common sense dictates you should probably choose a simple course of action like... putting your hands in the air.they weren't uniformed. ask anyone from britian, Street cops don't have guns.

Ever since 9/11 though, I believe that England had created a bunch of special units (just like the U.S. did) which do carry guns and were specifically designed to combat terrorism.

I think those were created at the same time that the Patriot Acti'ish laws were passed over there in... 2002? I'm too lazy to look it up right now. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

[Saur]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Oh he will... :P

But no seriously, heck common sense dictates that ya should hold up your hands regardless. I mean, I'm sure they weren't quiet when they did it.

"freeze mtrfkr, put your hands up, stop!" etc

Sure he was brazilian, but he was engrish speaking :X

<3 Saur

[Bonez]

Ever since 9/11 though, I believe that England had created a bunch of special units (just like the U.S. did) which do carry guns and were specifically designed to combat terrorism.
"He was then followed by surveillance officers"(source = http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2005-07-23T163226Z_01_N23652649_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-SECURITY-BRITAIN-INNOCENT-DC.XML )
just like undercover cops, no badges no uniform.

[DinkyPoopStick]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Oh he will... :P

<3 Saur

:LolLolLolLol:

Now you're comming around :thumbsup:

[DinkyPoopStick]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Oh he will... :P

<3 Saur

:LolLolLolLol:

Now you're comming around :thumbsup:

HOLY SHIT!!!! he did before i could even right that!!

[Bonez]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Oh he will... :P

<3 Saur
:LolLolLolLol:

Now you're comming around :thumbsup:
HOLY SHIT!!!! he did before i could even right that!!yea, was looking for news links because nobody seems to take what i say at face value.

[Multiplex]

Ever since 9/11 though, I believe that England had created a bunch of special units (just like the U.S. did) which do carry guns and were specifically designed to combat terrorism.
"He was then followed by surveillance officers"(source = http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2005-07-23T163226Z_01_N23652649_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-SECURITY-BRITAIN-INNOCENT-DC.XML)
just like undercover cops, no badges no uniform.

Well, I sincerely apologize. I should really have just pushed the direction of my argument a bit to the side. How about:

If a 5 guys point guns at you... and you run; expect to get shot. If they yell at you to freeze and give you the opportunity to without shooting you and without asking "Gimme your ****ing money" then there's a fair chance that you'll survive by stopping and putting your hands up.

On the offhand chance that you don't even buy that logic...

If you are at the medium range of a hand gun you have a better chance of walking away from the incident by getting closer to the guns... not farther away. If you really want to get survive the encounter you get closer and either

A) Do what they want.
B) Comply and look innocent until you decide to make a move on their gun.

Because... option C
C) Run like an idiot... and when they finally catch you (or shoot you at a whim with several poorly aimed shots--one of which will likely hit you) you know they're going to be more aggressive and worried that you're going to resist and therefore be more likely to shoot you in the chest over and over until you stop moving.

... is a not so great option to take.

This is not C-Strike... and so 30 rounds from a submachine (or hand) gun is not what is required to stop you from running. One round will usually do the trick. Bunnyhopping, strafing, and jump to prone (for you BF2'ers) will not be an effective means of escaping the situation.

[Bonez]

here's one for you, what is easier to hit with a handgun while moving.

A. a standing target
B. slow moving target
C. fast moving erratic target

they had him incapaciated, and STILL shot him.

[DinkyPoopStick]

here's one for you, what is easier to hit with a handgun while moving.

A. my morning Bonez
B. my over sized head
C. the zits on my over sized head

they had him incapaciated, and STILL shot him.
:upyours:

[Multiplex]

here's one for you, what is easier to hit with a handgun while moving.

A. a standing target
B. slow moving target
C. fast moving erratic target

they had him incapaciated, and STILL shot him.

LMAO!!

How about who are you more likely to shoot at?

A. a standing target
B. slow moving target
C. fast moving erratic target

I'll be taking shots at the erratic guy BECAUSE HE IS RESISTING ARREST.

I can't believe you'd defend this guys actions. He's running from the law enforcement. He got a guy who's probably never shot at any real person in his entire life... all worked up, nervous, and super sensitive because his country has been bombed by suicide bombers...

You're gonna run away from him... making it look even more likely that you're wearing a bomb under your huge winter parka (in 70 degree heat) and then expect that cop... who is now scared shitless, wondering if he'll make it home that evening to see his family, and just finished sprinting after you and tackling you... to not shoot you with his gun when you're further resisting on the ground while cops are jumping on top of you.

No excuses... expect to get shot. Don't expect anyone other than a liberal to defend you.

[Redy]

It's not easy picking up a badge and then going out to protect the public. The cops are only human. It was an unfortunate event but ultimately the blame falls on the terrorist.wow, allot of people are not upto date.

ok lets go.

the guy was a Brazilian on vacation to britian, he was attacked the night before and robbed, he had a group of men run towards him yelling and holding guns(who were officers, but he didn't know that), he was chased, knocked down and shot point blank 5 times. only thing he did wrong was wear a jacket and be worried about his personal safety(in public i'm shifty looking too).


WTF does any of that have to do with the fact that humans make mistakes? How does my reply indicate that I am not up to date? Did I say the victim did anything wrong? Do you even know what a ripple effect is?

Next time you don’t have an intelligent answer just STFU.

[Bonez]

It's not easy picking up a badge and then going out to protect the public. The cops are only human. It was an unfortunate event but ultimately the blame falls on the terrorist.wow, allot of people are not upto date.

ok lets go.

the guy was a Brazilian on vacation to britian, he was attacked the night before and robbed, he had a group of men run towards him yelling and holding guns(who were officers, but he didn't know that), he was chased, knocked down and shot point blank 5 times. only thing he did wrong was wear a jacket and be worried about his personal safety(in public i'm shifty looking too).
WTF does any of that have to do with the fact that humans make mistakes? How does my reply indicate that I am not up to date? Did I say the victim did anything wrong? Do you even know what a ripple effect is?

Next time you don’t have an intelligent answer just STFU.you called him a "terrorist" which he was not, you said it was the "terorist" fault implying that it was his fault that the cops knocked him to the ground and shot him.

humans do make mistakes, but why label someone that has done nothing wrong then worry about his personal safety as an(over used i might add) terrorist when he just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

i know it's not easy being any type of cop/paramedic/firefighter, they do make mistakes they are only human, but saying that it's the victims fault that he was killed makes it allright ?

[dbodenheim]

This is not C-Strike... and so 30 rounds from a submachine (or hand) gun is not what is required to stop you from running. One round will usually do the trick. Bunnyhopping, strafing, and jump to prone (for you BF2'ers) will not be an effective means of escaping the situation.


I think last year Redy and I were playing office map and he had a p-90 and i had a pump shotty. We both did circles around each other from like 3 feet and emptied 2 p-90 clips and 2 full shotgun clips and neither one of us scratched each other. I finally just knifed him and ended that embarresment. My point is, if Redy and I were arresting this guy in real life he would of knifed us. :yaya:

[atomicbob]

:hehehe: :hehehe: :hehehe:

[DinkyPoopStick]

Boner

he was a terroist
you are wrong :upyours:
English cops carry guns
you are wrong :upyours:
it was his fault the cops shot him
you are wrong :upyours:
it is easier to hit a moving target
you are wrong :upyours:
you were wrong about the terrorists captured in Iraq
you are wrong :upyours:
you are wrong about the weapos used
you are wrong :upyours:
they weren't undercover cops
you are wrong :upyours:
you don't know anything about everything
you are wrong :upyours:
:flipoff:
I hope that makes a blood vessel in his head pop
:flipoff:
BTW guys look at my qoute of his on Page 3 again, a bit closer this time

[Redy]

It's not easy picking up a badge and then going out to protect the public. The cops are only human. It was an unfortunate event but ultimately the blame falls on the terrorist.wow, allot of people are not upto date.

ok lets go.

the guy was a Brazilian on vacation to britian, he was attacked the night before and robbed, he had a group of men run towards him yelling and holding guns(who were officers, but he didn't know that), he was chased, knocked down and shot point blank 5 times. only thing he did wrong was wear a jacket and be worried about his personal safety(in public i'm shifty looking too).
WTF does any of that have to do with the fact that humans make mistakes? How does my reply indicate that I am not up to date? Did I say the victim did anything wrong? Do you even know what a ripple effect is?

Next time you don’t have an intelligent answer just STFU.you called him a "terrorist" which he was not, you said it was the "terorist" fault implying that it was his fault that the cops knocked him to the ground and shot him.

humans do make mistakes, but why label someone that has done nothing wrong then worry about his personal safety as an(over used i might add) terrorist when he just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

i know it's not easy being any type of cop/paramedic/firefighter, they do make mistakes they are only human, but saying that it's the victims fault that he was killed makes it allright ?

[Redy]

Sorry about that last post.

Here we go Bonehead.

1. Ripple effect meaning this incident is a result of the bombings.

2. Bombings cause by the terrorist.

So I blame the terrorist that caused the bombings that cause this unfortunate event.

Read before you write bonehead.

[Bonez]

Boner

he was a terroist
you are wrong :upyours:
English cops carry guns
you are wrong :upyours:
it was his fault the cops shot him
you are wrong :upyours:
it is easier to hit a moving target
you are wrong :upyours:
you were wrong about the terrorists captured in Iraq
you are wrong :upyours:
you are wrong about the weapos used
you are wrong :upyours:
they weren't undercover cops
you are wrong :upyours:
you don't know anything about everything
you are wrong :upyours:
:flipoff:
I hope that makes a blood vessel in his head pop
:flipoff:
BTW guys look at my qoute of his on Page 3 again, a bit closer this timeand i hope you die early from a heart attack. but that's a personial opinion.

what's funny is that i'm being called a troll, wow, double standard much.

[wihadmin]

Ok guys. Enough is enough. Stop the personal flames.

Take it offline or go over to each other's houses and beat the shit out of each other. Just keep it off my forums.

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