Hurricane Ike

[kilroy0097]

Large Hurricane Ike Poised To Impact Texas (http://www.weather.com/newscenter/hurricanecentral/update/index.html)


Wayne Verno, Lead Meteorologist, The Weather Channel
2:51 a.m. ET 9/11/2008

Hurricane Ike

As of 1 a.m. CDT, Ike was located about 645 east of Brownsville, Texas, with maximum sustained winds near the center holding at 100 mph. Movement is now toward the west-northwest at around 9 mph.

Ike's pressure remains low (a sign of strong hurricane), with the latest reading from an Air Force Hunter Aircraft of 946 mb (27.94 inches). But despite this low pressure, Ike's winds have not increased yet due to the very large size of the storm. However, additional strengthening remains likely and Ike is forecast to become a major hurricane today or Friday


So around 7am on Saturday the Hurricane is going to make landfall just south of Houston if it continues on the current track. All you WiH Houston/Galveston types better be packing up at this point. Us here in College Station, TX are going to be experiencing either Cat 1 Hurricane force winds or Tropical Storm weather. Either way it's going to rain like hell.

Check out the path:
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/1065/ikemajorcitiesml6.th.png (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ikemajorcitiesml6.png)

Check out the number of Oil Rigs in the Gulf. All those little dots are oil rigs.
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/4624/ikesep10middayoilplatfokg9.th.png (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ikesep10middayoilplatfokg9.png)

If you experience anything in this storm and have some pictures afterwards post them up here.

[papasan9]

yeah, when the storm makes it to us, they are forecasting 8-9 inches here.

[sir_digalot]

i seriously did not realise how many oil rigs there were in that region so i google mapped it.... pretty cool

[Uncle_Ho]

The Oklahoma National Guard has been put on alert for potential texas refugees................Gov. Bad Brad Henry declared a state of emergency

Funny thing is, every time this happens by the time they get here we are having severe weather from the same hurricane.....out of the frying pan, in to the fire:woot:

[Crotch-Rot]

yeah, when the storm makes it to us, they are forecasting 8-9 inches here.

well, you've always said that you like it to be at least 8-9 inches... :spank: :D

[papasan9]

:spank::D

[atomicbob]

i seriously did not realise how many oil rigs there were in that region so i google mapped it.... pretty cool

Those rigs are my bread and butter. Here's to offshore drilling!!!

:cheers:

[ICEPICK]

I am staying home & if my Internet is disconected during the storm , I am canceling my AT&T service ...............

[Nsane]

I heard on a local radio station that if you need gas, better fill up today because tomorrow gas is supposed to go up by over a dollar a gallon and you'll be limited to 10 gallons.

[atomicbob]

Business news at lunch said wholesale gas prices are over $5/gal right now.

[ICEPICK]

I am not worried about no stinking gas prices........... I have Katrina evacuees near me & they will show me how to get all the stuff i need for free /sarcasm

[CHAOS]

shit gas stations are already running out.. i passed quite a few with like 100 cars or so parked all around them.. I just drove in from the medical center to my house and you wold think folks would of thought of gas yesterday.. i mean shit we got signs everywhere saying .. its hurricane season.. keep your gas tank full.. dumbasses.. i filled up 2 days ago and topped off yesterday..

lol

[sir_digalot]

woah better fill up now then they were itching at any excuse to rape us again...

oh well when bob is a millionaire he can buy us all gas :D

[atomicbob]

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT09/refresh/AL0908W5+gif/144313W_sm.gif

[Crotch-Rot]

damn! I'll be in Indianapolis on Sunday to spectate a motorcycle race. looking like it's gonna be a wet one. :(

[Tigiot]

Fuck, I feel bad for all you Fail Coasters and Central Staters.

I have no concept (well as much as I can get from reading and hearing stuff) of the damage brought to you guys. I think I'll stay living in California and deal with the high prices.

[Innocent-Bystander]

I have people coming here (San Antonio) from Houston. I just moved from Houston in Dec

[GroovyDude]

To all Texas WiH'ers, stay safe!

[Tykwer]

I heard on a local radio station that if you need gas, better fill up today because tomorrow gas is supposed to go up by over a dollar a gallon and you'll be limited to 10 gallons.

where? in Houston, Galveston, Corpus Christi, etc? or all of Texas/Louisianan? or the US?

bah, it doesnt look like I'm gonna get a ton of rain =/. I want the creeks to fill back up before it gets cold!

[FiLTHY_SNiPER]

You guys in Texas stay safe

And damn, I'm glad I don't drive anymore.

[sumdumgai]

Stay safe you guys in Texas and in the Hurricane's path!

Tig, we get earthquakes. I don't know how bad you get them when they hit, up there in northern cal (if you get them at all), but down here in so cal, shake, rattle, and roll!

[Innocent-Bystander]

YBBS'ers in the path.

Oh My. He's a operator for Shell Oil on the Houston Ship Channel. He is going to be staying at the refinery and work through it.

Valt. He bugged out and is sitting on my couch right now.

Bloody Pulp. Lives between Houston and Galveston and is going to ride it out.

Jack Tripper. Works off shore as a rov pilot and just got home. Lives next to Ellington Field (NASA uses it) in South Houston and is going to ride it out.

I've got some knuckle headed friends and family

[Tykwer]

Yeah, I think all my houstonite relatives are staying put. I think to get the majority of houston evacuated again after rita, it'd have to be the storm of the century.

[Tigiot]

Stay safe you guys in Texas and in the Hurricane's path!

Tig, we get earthquakes. I don't know how bad you get them when they hit, up there in northern cal (if you get them at all), but down here in so cal, shake, rattle, and roll!

Yeah, I used to live in the Bay area but there hasn't been any significant earthquakes in my time (I was born in late of '90 so I missed the World Series Quake). The other quakes there was were pretty light and I think I didn't even notice some because I was sitting on a bed.

Now I live in Far NorCal, near Mt. Shasta. I'm probably < 2 hours from Oregon. And there are practically none at all. Though we did have like 800 forest fires in my county alone earlier in the summer.

[kilroy0097]

A Category 4 Hurricane going up the original predicted path just SE of Houston would be enough to evacuate the city. Being on the strong side of a Hurricane is no joke.

I've ridden out a Cat 2 and a Cat 3 in Hawaii where there is no where to run to. You just got to board up windows, tap up glass, put water stops at the doors, find the highest safe ground and hope for the best.

[lamah]

gas $3.36/gal at HEB east side of 288 near TMC

:thumbsup:

tho mite wanna hurry, as virtually all gas stations are empty here in houston

[kilroy0097]

It's $3.61 here at the cheapest station which also happens to be HEB.

Texas A&M University at College Station is closed except for necessary personnel (Which includes me) on Friday due to the hurricane. Galveston is already closed due to mandatory evacuation. I get to be at work from Friday midnight to Saturday around noon right when this thing hits to babysit the millions of dollars worth of equipment we have upstairs and act as a building proctor in case of damage. It's going to be a really boring night if we lose power. I'll be bringing a book just in case. *sigh*

[CHAOS]

when i passed the local HEB at 1093 and 99 gas was at 3.37.. My company had decided to shut down yesterday but i have to go in and bring down our equipment.. matter of fact i am leaving in about 30 min.. my boss in Arizona wanted me to bring it down last ight but i was like .. dude no worries.. the office is north of the 10 and i live like 15 miles south of it.. let the fianancial guys work thier ass off tonight and i will go in and shut it down tomorrow..

however if this thing had been a 4 or a 5... well they woulda been shutdown yesterday and i woulda been headed to kileen (grandparents house)

[ICEPICK]

Woo Hoo look AT the idiots on the seawall ( sorry no pics )......... /stupid

[Killerfurby6]

Good Luck everybody there!! stay save!!
i know your gas should be cheaper but look it like this : we allways pay around 6 $ per gallon in germany (around 1.40 euro per Liter)

[kilroy0097]

This was a statement given by the National Weather Service on Hurricane Ike (And I'm not kidding this is real)

GULF-FACING COASTAL AREAS FROM MATAGORDA TO HIGH ISLAND INCLUDING GALVESTON ISLAND...12 TO 16 FEET

LIFE THREATENING INUNDATION LIKELY!

ALL NEIGHBORHOODS...AND POSSIBLY ENTIRE COASTAL COMMUNITIES... WILL BE INUNDATED DURING HIGH TIDE. PERSONS NOT HEEDING EVACUATION ORDERS IN SINGLE FAMILY ONE OR TWO STORY HOMES WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH. MANY RESIDENCES OF AVERAGE CONSTRUCTION DIRECTLY ON THE COAST WILL BE DESTROYED. WIDESPREAD AND DEVASTATING PERSONAL PROPERTY DAMAGE IS LIKELY ELSEWHERE. VEHICLES LEFT BEHIND WILL LIKELY BE SWEPT AWAY. NUMEROUS ROADS WILL BE SWAMPED...SOME MAY BE WASHED AWAY BY THE WATER. ENTIRE FLOOD PRONE COASTAL COMMUNITIES WILL BE CUTOFF. WATER LEVELS MAY EXCEED 9 FEET FOR MORE THAN A MILE INLAND. COASTAL RESIDENTS IN MULTI-STORY FACILITIES RISK BEING CUTOFF. CONDITIONS WILL BE WORSENED BY BATTERING WAVES. SUCH WAVES WILL EXACERBATE PROPERTY DAMAGE...WITH MASSIVE DESTRUCTION OF HOMES...INCLUDING THOSE OF BLOCK CONSTRUCTION. DAMAGE FROM BEACH EROSION COULD TAKE YEARS TO REPAIR.

A lot of places reporting this warning on the web kind of make light of that message but here is what they aren't telling you.

Right now I'm watching the news which is showing Galveston right now. Currently it's not even raining in Galveston. Not a drop. And the water from the ocean has already come over the sea wall and has flooded most of the neighborhoods on the coast. It's already causing damage and the storm surge isn't even here yet. This is just the pregame warm up. The storm surge when it comes in will be another 10-20 ft of water in addition to the flooding that already happening 16 hours before the storm surge hits. It's pretty crazy. Some poor freighter out in the Gulf of Mexico radioed for help and the Coast Guard was going to attempt a rescue and decided that it would be impossible by the time they get to them. Hence that poor freighter and it's crew is on it's own.

All this and it's 16 hours before the Hurricane officially makes landfall. I don't think there is going to be much left in Galveston that isn't damaged from this. I really hope no one was stupid enough to attempt to ride this out in and around Galveston. Even the experts are saying this kind of water rise this early before the hurricane hits is out of the ordinary for hurricanes from the Gulf. Even the hardcore longterm residents of Galveston are saying this isn't worth sticking around.

This should be pretty extreme even at a mere Category 2/3. I can't even imagine if this hurricane was a Cat 3/4 like they predicted at first. Sheesh.

I can't believe people in Madatory Evacuation Areas are actually standing their at the seawall watching the waves come in and they are stubborn and stupid enough to stick around. *shakes head* Darwinism at it's best.

[ICEPICK]

I can't believe people in Madatory Evacuation Areas are actually standing their at the seawall watching the waves come in and they are stubborn and stupid enough to stick around. *shakes head* Darwinism at it's best.


I am curious as to why the coastal counties with the mandatory evac are not declaring some type( martial law/ ? ) of we are coming to Forceably move you if you inisist on being an idiot .............

[kilroy0097]

You would think when there is a 99% chance that your house will no longer be livable or safe from a hurricane that it would be considered that you are attempting to commit suicide. At the same time I kind of don't want them to remove these people. Darwinism keeps our over population in check in a small way.

[Tigiot]

Oh dear, this will not be good.

[Innocent-Bystander]

Good Luck everybody there!! stay save!!
i know your gas should be cheaper but look it like this : we allways pay around 6 $ per gallon in germany (around 1.40 euro per Liter)


Because you let the socialist yoke strangle every euro out of you. Over half that price is tax. Furbs, I think its time to go get a rope, pitch forks and torches and fix that problem.

[ICEPICK]

. Darwinism keeps our over population in check in a small way.

I f only they took themselves out & not a bunch of non idiots. Stupidity seems to survive !!

[ICEPICK]

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3085032&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/



priceless

[Tykwer]

I can't believe people in Madatory Evacuation Areas are actually standing their at the seawall watching the waves come in and they are stubborn and stupid enough to stick around. *shakes head* Darwinism at it's best.

I guess they didn't go to that museum and watched the movie about the 1900 storm...

[Innocent-Bystander]

I am curious as to why the coastal counties with the mandatory evac are not declaring some type( martial law/ ? ) of we are coming to Forceably move you if you inisist on being an idiot .............

Because this is America and we are American Citizens and have the right to be stupid. Govt isn't there to protect us from ourselves, but to do for us what we can't do our selves. LIKE GUARD THE STINKING BOARDERS

[ICEPICK]

lol http://houstonhidefromthewind.org/ MY ZIP is 77449

[CHAOS]

great they conviently dont show mine.. I am in 77469 which is below 77494

[FozzyBear]

Good luck guys!

[Innocent-Bystander]

I grew up in 77571. You can bet that we feel pretty lucky we left 9 months ago

[ICEPICK]

just wind at 11:12 pm

[FozzyBear]

looks like Houston got the rain about now 12:01 CST

[CHAOS]

still havent got any rain.. lots of wind but the bands are hopping over my area.. course the eye hasnt even made land fall yet.. its about 25 - 35 miles out..

they are reporting that 650,000 are without power already.

my area lost power but they got it back online..

oh well.. keeping an eye on my kids and wife while they sleep..

[FozzyBear]

Hope all is well with your family.

[StevenNevets]

Good luck guys.

[SnaKe]

Yawl stay safe in the path of that beast!

The ppl drinking at the Poop Deck are dead! :wtf:

[kilroy0097]

They are estimating that about 40% of Galveston residents stayed behind to weather the storm.

The two main reasons from interviews of why people were staying:
1. Because they didn't want to fight the traffic.

Truth: Even though the traffic was light and the roads were not even close to saturation. It would have been an easy drive out of the city. So laziness and impatience is the reason you want to risk your life. Death from Laziness.

2. Because they evacuated for Rita but it didn't turn out to be so bad.

Truth: They are comparing this hurricane that is landing just southwest of Galveston to a hurricane that landed in Beaumont. Since any idiot that watches TV should know that the NE part of a storm is the strongest part, of course Houston wasn't hit so hard last time. The very idea that they are comparing Rita to Ike shows you just how stupid these people are.

In several interviews the people said they lived on high ground and so they weren't worried. High Ground in Galveston is less than 20' above sea level. Before the storm surge hit the water had already gone up almost 10' and flooded many neighborhoods. The storm surge is estimated to place another 15-22' of water above that level. Hence we are looking at a possible 32' of water over Galveston from sea level. I don't think your house on high ground is going to do much you fucking morons.

God people are stupid. Mandatory Evacuations for 48 hours before today. A friend who has contact with his father who is working emergency services out of League city in Houston is saying that emergency services were cut off at 9pm. Hence any 911 calls after that point until the morning will not be responded to. They are telling people calling from Galveston and low laying areas that they will not be able to rescue them All they can do is hope for the best and that they should write in permanent marker on their arms their name, social security numbers and next of kin in case they have to recover their bodies. Yea, pretty intense.

[ICEPICK]

6:11 am update ...... high winds & rain ............. power was out for an hour or so ....................... A OK here ..............

[SLCoran]

Take care, watching it on the news now. Dallas seems it might be spared some. I was hoping to be able to say I rode out a Hurricane in Dallas....LOL
How often do you think you'd hear that, a hurricane in Dallas?

[ICEPICK]

Well if that were to come to pass we would be underwater here :P

[kilroy0097]

http://meeped.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/0d/0da18d514e526b06fc704acc71f506a68fb9a66d.jpg

Your Eyes are NOT deceiving you. Yes that is a man in a bear costume walking along the sea wall in Galveston while the hurricane approaches. And that is a very scared reporter trying to ignore it.

Source: Digg Post (http://digg.com/comedy/Oh_shit_look_what_the_hurricane_brought) <== Some of the comments are hilarious!

Here is the video link: http://www.khou.com/video/topstories-index.html?nvid=282017&shu=1

If that doesn't work here is a crappy version of it on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKwMiExUKXg&fmt=18

[SnaKe]

Good to hear your safe Ice! You even have power, that's great!

[papasan9]

that is some funny shit kilroy.... good luck troopers.

[ICEPICK]

Good to hear your safe Ice! You even have power, that's great!

Power has been going on & off since 5 am...................... but all is well............ may get a little more rain /wind ............... all is good at 1030 am

[Tykwer]

I feel gypped. Yesterday they were saying 50mph winds with 100% chance of rain for austin this morning and now it's 25-30mph gusts at the most and almost a 0% chance of rain. I'd trade some power outages and some downed limbs in exchange for some GOD DAMNED RAIN! Now all that is going to happen is all the insects im trying to catch for my entomology class will be harder to find for a while.

[ICEPICK]

Now all that is going to happen is all the insects im trying to catch for my entomology class will be harder to find for a while.


should have been in galveston you could of caught a bear LOL

[Tykwer]

should have been in galveston you could of caught a bear LOL

haha, a water bear at that!



http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2004/078/1-078-water-bear-frontal.jpg

[Tigiot]

haha, a water bear at that!


Don't fuck with the water bears, they'll kill your ass in space.

[[GOD] Retroactive88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXp-fIdzO9I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoAUOcDaqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZHZVAu9tFw

Dis what I'm talkin bout..... I used to love jumpin' waves during a small craft advisory..... storm surf seems fun but small on the Gulf Coast of Fla.

[Innocent-Bystander]

Okay, to all you guys in Houston and the surrounding area. If you can get to internet and need help, post it here and we will do what we can. I'm in San Antonio and will make a run with supplies if you need it. Meds, food, water, lumber, etc. Just let me know. If you are really out on a ledge, I have a spare bed room three couches, and five sleeping bags. And if that is full, there is a hammock and a tree house in the back yard. lol

[kilroy0097]

3 million people in SE Texas without power. A huge number.

ABC Channel 13 out of Houston just reported that 2 looters have been shot by people in separate parts of Houston. One was shot by a pawn shop owner who was guarding his store during the storm.

[SLCoran]

This isn't La.
It not a good idea to loot a Texans property after a storm. He's probably packing and he WILL shoot you.

[ICEPICK]

I have been w/o power since my last post.............. power is back on .............. cell phones are useless (unless texting) ........... humidity suks w/o da AC to rely on ........ major rain fall this morning ......... near downtown is flooding ........ I AM OK .........

[sumdumgai]

It's not a good idea to loot a Texan's property, period! Castle Doctrine and all.

Any douchebag that gets shot looting gets no sympathy from me. Especially those deadbeats that loot during or after a major disaster.

[Innocent-Bystander]

I've been in contact with OhMy. He lives about a mile from Galveston Bay in Seabrook. Many pictures and videos have been coming out of there on tv. Its so freaky to see places I went everyday just slammed and underwater.

Here is what he said...

"wind may have hit 80-90 mph. My house is OK, but out of the 45 Oak trees I had, looks like I lost 30 to 35 of them. looks like a high tornado came thru and busted the trees in half. alot of them broke in half 8 - 10 feet off the ground. I'll have more pictres to post once we regain power at home. Currently I am housed at work, Shell Chemical in Deer Park, we have our own generators and have had power and air conditioning the entire time, along with hot food, hot showers and air beds."

I could post a google maps picture of where he lives to show you where he is in context to all the waterways, but someone might think its a good chance to get get his plasma TV. Oh My WILL shoot you and then have you stuffed and position your body next to his Lazy Boy holding a tray for his remotes and drink.

[Sage]

This isn't La.
It not a good idea to loot a Texans property after a storm. He's probably packing and he WILL shoot you.

Depends on the part of LA. Don't mess with the Korean shop owners!

And definitely never try looting a place owned by Phillipinos. Every Pinoy out there is a gun owner.

And there are parts of Pacifica I advise you not to try looting if there's ever an earthquake. Anybody who wants my stuff will get a complimentary lead salad!


Oh My WILL shoot you and then have you stuffed and position your body next to his Lazy Boy holding a tray for his remotes and drink.

His biggest issue would be trying to decide which gun to shoot the looter with.

[Innocent-Bystander]

He really has been wanting to try out his Beowulf AR in .50

supposedly will knock over a 300lb hog

[FozzyBear]

good to hear they are doing good.

Anyone hear from Aero, Chaos or Icepick? Those are a few off the top of my head.


How did Kilroy fair (damage wise) in Bryan/College Station?

[ICEPICK]

I am ok power is on life is good

[Innocent-Bystander]

I've been calling Aero, but no reply. Just a note, {YBBS}Jack Tripper (my brother) said life without a/c is not worth living and is coming to stay with me. The storm couldn't get him, but the humidity did. Without TV, how much looking at your wife can you stand?

[kilroy0097]

I don't know about Aero though he only lives 30 min from me so damage should be minimal I hope for him. Damage here in BCS was nothing more than flooding in low laying areas and a few power outages in parts of the area. My house never lost power and all we have is a bunch of branches and leaves all over the place. Heck I went to IHOP during the middle of the Hurricane as it past us to the East. We got a few 60mph gusts but sustained winds were only 40mph. Nothing worse than a bad Texas thunderstorm, just a little longer.

So we faired fairly well. Whatever damage happened around town was superficial and inconvenient at most. There is a nice cold front that moved through yesterday so it's in the high 60's tonight and the air is dry. It's actually quite pleasant.

[CHAOS]

CHAOS is back on the air.. power wnet out at around 2 am Sat and just came back online bout an hour ago. I live south of Katy and north of Richmond and east of Fulsher down on the 1093 / westpark tollway.. glad to see you other Houstonians are up as well.

[atomicbob]

It just brushed us with 5-6 inches of rain and little wind. Filled the pond up so that was good.

90% of my clients are on the Gulf Coast so it's kinda quiet at work.

Glad you guys down there came through ok.

[Tykwer]

I live south of Katy and north of Richmond and east of Fulsher down on the 1093 / westpark tollway..

lol, now I see why people who live in or around any of the smaller towns around houston just say they're from houston.

[CHAOS]

does the term middle of no where come to mind? LOL

[Tykwer]

There is a nice cold front that moved through yesterday so it's in the high 60's tonight and the air is dry. It's actually quite pleasant.

Same here, it's so wonderful to be able to walk to class and NOT be sweating your ass off. In fact, I take this back:
Now all that is going to happen is all the insects im trying to catch for my entomology class will be harder to find for a while.
It was probably the most beautiful weekend we've had in a while. Nice and breezy with mostly sunny skies and waves of clouds cruising quickly overhead. Must be a welcome change of weather for those staying here from the evacuated areas.

[kaos]

Jesus, i live in Northeast Ohio and Ike's remnants came into town last night.
60 MPH winds, branches and leaves everywhere, entire trees falling.

I was outside at my friends house when we heard this loud CRACK and looked up in time to see a ~100 ft tree just snap like a twig.
After that we were pretty damn terrified and on super high alert.

[kilroy0097]

Wonder why clean up and getting power restored is going to be tough in SE Texas?

Here is a website that brings to you just "some" of the reasons. This isn't even half of it.

http://entergy.com/Global/Gustav/images/ike_1_pictures.aspx

[atomicbob]

There is a telling power point on that page.....

Ike Restoration Texas animation....

Slooooooow progress.

[ft-agent]

Ygg2uWsKK6w

A billion dollars sent to aid Georgia would have been nice to have for our folks that need it in the south after Ike hit.

[Aeromotor1]

Aero checking in and accounted for,.. Sir'
finally got phone signal round 4 and lights round 6 tonight. Now that my fridges are cleaned up and my neighbors fat from from the steaks and deer sausage off the grill.. time to rest. out of ice thou damn it. was in pod line today for an hour and a half and then they told us they where fuckin out out of ice. I will not depend on the gov again, that's fuckin it.
Fridges are back on now and beer getting cold again , This was a 2 storm , I ain't staying around for a 3 or larger next time, I'm making plans already to evacuate. Anyway glad we all made it allright.

"Only in Texas can you get A Hurricane and a cold front right after, go figure"me

[sumdumgai]

Glad to hear that you're alright Aero! :) And everyone else that's been checking in!

[Kitty]

I'm glad you are all OK!

I found this site with some amazing photos for those of us who didn't experience it first hand, this may give us an idea.
If there is anyway I could send you Ice Aero, I would!!

The short - but eventful - life of Ike (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_short_but_eventful_life_of.html)

[JustMeBF2]

I rebuilt fast!


http://entergy.com/Global/Gustav/images/125_AP.jpg

J/K

[FozzyBear]

Good photos Kitty

[Wibby]

I'm glad you are all OK!

I found this site with some amazing photos for those of us who didn't experience it first hand, this may give us an idea.
If there is anyway I could send you Ice Aero, I would!!

The short - but eventful - life of Ike (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_short_but_eventful_life_of.html)

Damn, makes me glad I live in SE South Dakota. The most I have to put up with is a cold snowy winter.

[Shadowryche]

Almost wish I could reenlist just so I could go on those old search n rescue missions after such catastrophes. You ever want to see the true sides of human nature go to one of these regions after such an event.

[Tykwer]

pics look familiar
http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_galves19004_050922_ssh.jpg
thankfully a lot less people lost their lives this time around.

[kilroy0097]

As the number of disasters of different kinds happen in the US more frequently, it seems that perhaps a military based disaster recovery unit should be formed that works with the Coast Guard in event of Hurricanes or other civilian units in other events. This unit would not go overseas and fight in wars or conflict. They would be trained to protect and provide security as well as help with recovery in US based disasters. At least then they could specifically be trained in these sort of things. Call it a more glorified version of the Civil Air Patrol or a military type unit that is an extension of Homeland Security, FEMA or something.

I don't know. Just rambling.

[atomicbob]

More pictures

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_short_but_eventful_life_of.html

[Killerfurby6]

i am glad you guys are all okay!!

[JustMeBF2]

Is this the first time a Hurricane has done damage that far inland????????
Indian had a buttload of rain. Ohio had 75MPH winds and a ton of damage.

[Tykwer]

As the number of disasters of different kinds happen in the US more frequently, it seems that perhaps a military based disaster recovery unit should be formed that works with the Coast Guard in event of Hurricanes or other civilian units in other events. This unit would not go overseas and fight in wars or conflict. They would be trained to protect and provide security as well as help with recovery in US based disasters. At least then they could specifically be trained in these sort of things. Call it a more glorified version of the Civil Air Patrol or a military type unit that is an extension of Homeland Security, FEMA or something.

I don't know. Just rambling.

You're obviously in a delirious state, as evidenced by your 4am posting time. I suggest getting some sleep and then drinking tap water until your fluorine levels are high enough that your brain can accept the world as it is presently without these dangerous suggestions as to how the world ought to be. :)

[Innocent-Bystander]

Two thing to post here and both of them deal with the Galveston area. First the sad news. The Lone Star Flight Museum was completely hammered. Go look at the pictures if you have the stomach for the destruction. I'm sooooo bummed. We had a tradition in my family. Every Wednesday before Thanks Giving the school would be closed, but my wife would have to work so my sons and I would go here.

http://www.lsfm.org/index.html

Now for the ugly part. See post No. 2

[Innocent-Bystander]

Someone from an area south of Houston sent this in to Ernie. Go to the Oct. 1st post. First what was said and then what I found out at the bottom

http://www.ehowa.com/

Ernie, I saw those before and after pictures of the Bolivar Peninsula that you posted. I've been fishing in Port O'Connor all week, which is south of Bolivar. While in POC this week I was told that 203 people tried to take shelter in a cinderblock grocery store in Bolivar the night Ike came ashore. The 15'-18' storm surge came in through the front of the store, and washed all 203 out into the bay. Three survivors were found floating on debris in Galveston Bay. The other 200 are "unaccounted for". The locals say it is "being kept quiet". People down on the coast are saying that something around 2000 to 2500 people are "missing". Two oyster fishermen told me that the back bays and estuaries are full of dead bodies, and there are cadaver-dog teams working all over the place. I don't believe I'll ever eat blue crab again. For some reason, none of this is in the news. I guess white folks drowning in Texas are not as newsworthy as the late unpleasantness in New Orleans. And you can say what you want about Texans, but you sure don't see many of us on the news demanding a trailer and a free fucking debit card. Thanks for the great website, by the way. John



After reading this a phone call was made to a buddy in the Dept. of Homeland Security in Houston. He said that there are 400 people lost and presumed dead. That doesn't count the dead that have been ID'd.

[Gruthar]

Actually, Kilroy's rant is already becoming a reality. AB posted this in the stock market thread a while back:



Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1
3rd Infantry’s 1st BCT trains for a new dwell-time mission. Helping ‘people at home’ may become a permanent part of the active Army
By Gina Cavallaro - Staff writer
ArmyTimes.com
Posted : Monday Sep 8, 2008 6:15:06 EDT

The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.
Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.
Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.
It is not the first time an active-duty unit has been tapped to help at home. In August 2005, for example, when Hurricane Katrina unleashed hell in Mississippi and Louisiana, several active-duty units were pulled from various posts and mobilized to those areas.
But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.
After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one.
“Right now, the response force requirement will be an enduring mission. How the [Defense Department] chooses to source that and whether or not they continue to assign them to NorthCom, that could change in the future,” said Army Col. Louis Vogler, chief of NorthCom future operations. “Now, the plan is to assign a force every year.”
The command is at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colo., but the soldiers with 1st BCT, who returned in April after 15 months in Iraq, will operate out of their home post at Fort Stewart, Ga., where they’ll be able to go to school, spend time with their families and train for their new homeland mission as well as the counterinsurgency mission in the war zones.
Stop-loss will not be in effect, so soldiers will be able to leave the Army or move to new assignments during the mission, and the operational tempo will be variable.
Don’t look for any extra time off, though. The at-home mission does not take the place of scheduled combat-zone deployments and will take place during the so-called dwell time a unit gets to reset and regenerate after a deployment.
The 1st of the 3rd is still scheduled to deploy to either Iraq or Afghanistan in early 2010, which means the soldiers will have been home a minimum of 20 months by the time they ship out.
In the meantime, they’ll learn new skills, use some of the ones they acquired in the war zone and more than likely will not be shot at while doing any of it.
They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.
Training for homeland scenarios has already begun at Fort Stewart and includes specialty tasks such as knowing how to use the “jaws of life” to extract a person from a mangled vehicle; extra medical training for a CBRNE incident; and working with U.S. Forestry Service experts on how to go in with chainsaws and cut and clear trees to clear a road or area.
The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.
“It’s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they’re fielding. They’ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we’re undertaking we were the first to get it.”
The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and, beanbag bullets.
“I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered,” said Cloutier, describing the experience as “your worst muscle cramp ever — times 10 throughout your whole body.
“I’m not a small guy, I weigh 230 pounds ... it put me on my knees in seconds.”
The brigade will not change its name, but the force will be known for the next year as a CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force, or CCMRF (pronounced “sea-smurf”).
“I can’t think of a more noble mission than this,” said Cloutier, who took command in July. “We’ve been all over the world during this time of conflict, but now our mission is to take care of citizens at home ... and depending on where an event occurred, you’re going home to take care of your home town, your loved ones.”
While soldiers’ combat training is applicable, he said, some nuances don’t apply.
“If we go in, we’re going in to help American citizens on American soil, to save lives, provide critical life support, help clear debris, restore normalcy and support whatever local agencies need us to do, so it’s kind of a different role,” said Cloutier, who, as the division operations officer on the last rotation, learned of the homeland mission a few months ago while they were still in Iraq.
Some brigade elements will be on call around the clock, during which time they’ll do their regular marksmanship, gunnery and other deployment training. That’s because the unit will continue to train and reset for the next deployment, even as it serves in its CCMRF mission.
Should personnel be needed at an earthquake in California, for example, all or part of the brigade could be scrambled there, depending on the extent of the need and the specialties involved.
Other branches included
The active Army’s new dwell-time mission is part of a NorthCom and DOD response package.
Active-duty soldiers will be part of a force that includes elements from other military branches and dedicated National Guard Weapons of Mass Destruction-Civil Support Teams.
A final mission rehearsal exercise is scheduled for mid-September at Fort Stewart and will be run by Joint Task Force Civil Support, a unit based out of Fort Monroe, Va., that will coordinate and evaluate the interservice event.
In addition to 1st BCT, other Army units will take part in the two-week training exercise, including elements of the 1st Medical Brigade out of Fort Hood, Texas, and the 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade from Fort Bragg, N.C.
There also will be Air Force engineer and medical units, the Marine Corps Chemical, Biological Initial Reaction Force, a Navy weather team and members of the Defense Logistics Agency and the Defense Threat Reduction Agency.
One of the things Vogler said they’ll be looking at is communications capabilities between the services.
“It is a concern, and we’re trying to check that and one of the ways we do that is by having these sorts of exercises. Leading up to this, we are going to rehearse and set up some of the communications systems to make sure we have interoperability,” he said.
“I don’t know what America’s overall plan is — I just know that 24 hours a day, seven days a week, there are soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines that are standing by to come and help if they’re called,” Cloutier said. “It makes me feel good as an American to know that my country has dedicated a force to come in and help the people at home.”