Well, I did it again.......

[Uncle_Ho]

I am on my way home from work, It had been a hot very long day with lots of aggravation. I stop at a loves truck stop to fill up my motorcycle. The pump says "Pre Pay" or credit card as most do. I didn't have my card so I went in to pre pay. I stand in line for 10 minuets to get to the "SLOW" register being worked by a man of at least 60 years. I tell him, I am on pump #7 I don't know how much it will hold and hand him a $20. He throws it on the counter and says "Minimum deposit is $50 for a car, $100 for a pick up". I said, holding my motorcycle helmet & wearing my riding jacket, "Dude, it's a motorcycle". He said "I don't care what it is minimum deposit is $50!"

Now, you would think having been up against so many dumbasses I would know what to do at this point. I reach in my wallet and all I have is 2- $20 and a $100 and a $1. I hand him a $100 bill. He points to a sign that reads (No large bills after 8pm) It was 9pm. I offer him the two $20's and the $1. He says "I TOLD YOU SIR! MINIMUM DEPOSIT IS $50!".

I said ok, now I realize that you are an old dumbass suffering from Alzheimers that is pissed off because you didn't plan your retirement well and are here working for $6.50 an hour at a truck stop, but surely you can figure something out here that will keep your job intact and put gas in my tank without any further public display of stupidity on your part. He says "I AM REFUSING YOU SERVICE, I DON'T HAVE TO TAKE LIP FROM YOUNG PUNKS LIKE YOU!" (I am 47 years old) He then says, "If you don't leave now I am calling the police", and he grabs my arm, and trys to drag me to the door. I take out my cell phone dial 911 and tell them I need an officer at the Loves Truck stop, that I am an off duty police officer being assaulted by a clerk in the store. I then tell them I will have the offender in custody when they get there. I then pulled my badge, told the man I was a police officer and put the cuffs on him. The police come pull the tape from the security system and view it, and confirm I was assaulted. The store manager came in and agreed her employee screwed the pooch. I agreed to drop charges if she terminated him, and she did.

WTF is the deal? Why does this keep happening to me?:minigun::minigun::minigun:

I now know why people twist off in public places and commit mass murder.

[Lord ALF]

i blame our society. it does fucked up things to people through it's powers of stress. not that it's an excuse mind you. just that some people just do get it.

step back, take a breath, and enjoy the fact that you're a part of life.

sry to hear you had another issue Ho. i'm enjoying the stories though. :)

-alf

[Grim_Scythe]

Sir you need one more paragraph to add before you post a rant... :D

[kilroy0097]

It's not often that stupid people actually given the opportunity to correct their stupidity. This one found out the hard way for once. Too often stupid people are left alone to continue further stupid acts to the jeopardy of everyone. Bravo to you but also my condolences with such bad luck.

[sumdumgai]

It sucks that this kind of crap keeps happening to you Uncle Ho. It was a satisfying end to another story about another aggravating dumbass. :)

[antigen]

Ho... do us all a favor... post a picture of yourself, perhaps as you would look slightly bored yet a little pissed off. That way, we can all try to help you figure out just what is going wrong.

Most of us don't know if you look like a boy scout with doe eyes, an escaped convict, or a man on the verge of a psychological breakdown.

I think Dr. Antigen can provide you with a quick diagnosis...

[lamah]

lol nice story "young punk" lol
ya, post pics and the video :):minigun:

that is crazy on the min deposit tho, i don't think my car can fill up to 50 bucks, at least not in houston

[atomicbob]

Good job, Ho!!

One more idiot purged from the system....

[FozzyBear]

I love the Ho stories!!!

Sorry for your crappy luck again..

[Innocent-Bystander]

If the event you mentioned had been a one time thing, I would say "Crap that sucks." Your statement "Why does this keep happening to me?" leads me to think that your occupation is the basis for your problems. Not knowing you, but knowing a bunch of cops, I will deduce that it is your attitude that keeps getting you into these situations. At work, cops walk up to the people who pay your salary but yet you have the ability to push them around, be rude to them, and they have no recourse. If they raise their hands in defense you can pull out your club and beat them, or my favorite form of police brutality, the taser (youtube police taser abuse and enjoy). If you abuse someones wife and he punches you in the face and kicks your ass, you call for back up. In a sane world, your fellow cops would walk up and see that you got what you deserved and laugh at you. But your occupation is filled with sadistic opportunists who see it as a free ticket to beat the snot out of the husband and ruin the lives of their family by sending the man to jail for years. Cops don't walk up to people with the attitude of respect but with Cartmans "You will respect my A-thoa-ta"
Off duty, you carry this attitude and a chip on your shoulder with you and know enough of the law so that when dealing with common folk, you can push the situation until the other person is baited into a reaction that you can then impose your 'authority.' I've seen it happen before.
Ask yourself this. If you had walked into the store and smiled at the guy and talked to him with a cooperative attitude, do you think the situation would have been different?

"Hello, my name is Mike, I'm 41 y/o and have never been arrested, and I hate cops and TSA screaners with dangerous attitudes"

[Grim_Scythe]

What are you a shrink?

[papasan9]

i thoroughly enjoyed your story, at your expense i suppose, but it is nice seeing assholes getting it stuck to them. your bike is already paying off hehe..

[ft-agent]

Shame you didn't get a copy of the tape on condition of dropping the charges, that would make for a good youtube video especially if there was good video and audio quality. You should have told the manager/owner to drop the $50 minimum and the big bills after 8. If she would have refused you could mention the media would love the story. Not everyone has 50 bucks nor do all vehicles hold that much or maybe not even need that much fuel. What an ******* that old guy was. Would have loved to see the reaction on his face when you pulled out the badge and cuffed him.:wallbash:

[ICEPICK]

Well Uncle Ho............... i have the same problem in restaurants......... food comes out half cooked , cold or has hairs in it......... i feel your pain.......... Why does everyone bring me a damn Diet Coke wheni ask for DR PEPPER

[Persephone]

I have some people i'd love for you to arrest :D Lol

[Kennel-Dog]

He then says, "If you don't leave now I am calling the police", and he grabs my arm, and trys to drag me to the door. I take out my cell phone dial 911 and tell them I need an officer at the Loves Truck stop, that I am an off duty police officer being assaulted by a clerk in the store. I then tell them I will have the offender in custody when they get there. I then pulled my badge, told the man I was a police officer and put the cuffs on him. The police come pull the tape from the security system and view it, and confirm I was assaulted. The store manager came in and agreed her employee screwed the pooch. I agreed to drop charges if she terminated him, and she did.

Such a crock of shit. Grabbing someones arm constitutes assault. I'm sure if that was some bloke off the street there would have been a different result, I wonder if the cops would even show up.
I can't believe everyone who posted applauds and congratulates. Wait until its your turn.

[papasan9]

its perspective, none of us were there.

i agree with everything ib said, to the letter. however, i take ho's description as accurate (without proof to the contrary) and if a store clerk laid a hand on me i would love to press charges.... throw the book at the prick.

if ho was aggressive to start and instigated an incident he knew he would win, then yes,... thats the behavior of the cop pricks we all know.

as ho tells it, the guy was an ass to the wrong guy.... and thats it.

[Innocent-Bystander]

Thanks Papa. Ho if you are one of the Peace Officers that 'Serve and Protect' then you have my support. Our opinions are shaded by our experiences. That you hang with us and not just other cops is a thumbs up to you in my book

[Sage]

Dunno where you are, Ho, but in CA the law says you can use whatever force is reasonable to remove a trespasser...

Eh, there's other gas stations out there.


Shame you didn't get a copy of the tape on condition of dropping the charges, that would make for a good youtube video especially if there was good video and audio quality. You should have told the manager/owner to drop the $50 minimum and the big bills after 8. If she would have refused you could mention the media would love the story. Not everyone has 50 bucks nor do all vehicles hold that much or maybe not even need that much fuel. What an ******* that old guy was. Would have loved to see the reaction on his face when you pulled out the badge and cuffed him.

No big bills after a certain time is to try cutting down on robberies.

The $50 minimum is because people drive off way more often in this day and age. Ever gas station I've been to, though, has been modern enough that the teller can set the pump to shut off at the amount you give them. Ho must be in the sticks. :p In this day and age, if you don't have $50, you don't have money for gas. Yeah, not all vehicles will hold that much fuel (my bike only holds about 3 gallons...), but then again, most people aren't actually filling their tanks all the way these days (which is dumb; you lose more fuel to evaporation).

At the end of the day, the place is a privately-run business and they can require a $50 deposit to fill (pff, I think I can fit $150 in the Bronco) if they want. The wonderful thing about a free market is that you can go find someone else who doesn't require things like that.

[papasan9]

neither in oklahoma nor in california can you grab a non violent customer and start manhandling him/her.... which is why most business's have policy forbidding you tackling or physically apprehending a thief/shoplifter.

once you grab a person it is legally assault,..... not playing word games. the shop owner should have called the police from the beginning if he had an issue, instead of threatening to call the police and grabbing ho.

of course the business owner has the right to make rules and stick to them. they cannot, however, grab who they want because they are frustrated.

[Grim_Scythe]

I wonder though would the cops have showed up if Ho wasn't an officer...

[Knottwobad]

I think you nailed it on the head in your response about him not planning for retirement and hating his job. You probably caught him on a particularly bad night. I think you also know why this keeps happening to you because of the fact you tell these people exactly what they don't want to hear the truth. There is something to be said for being polite and curtious and explaining your situation but I think you tried that Ho. I think asking to speak with his manager at the point where you gave him the picture of his life might have been the right course but of course I was not there. It is unforgivable for an employee of any service business to touch a customer in any way, unless of course the that is the business and the employee does deserve to lose their job.

[SnaKe]

That's a great story Ho. The a-hole deserved what he got based on is actions.

[Sage]

neither in oklahoma nor in california can you grab a non violent customer and start manhandling him/her.... which is why most business's have policy forbidding you tackling or physically apprehending a thief/shoplifter.

once you grab a person it is legally assault,..... not playing word games. the shop owner should have called the police from the beginning if he had an issue, instead of threatening to call the police and grabbing ho.

of course the business owner has the right to make rules and stick to them. they cannot, however, grab who they want because they are frustrated.

No sir. As soon as someone is trespassing and refuses to leave, in CA you do have the legal right to forcibly expel them using reasonable force.

I'm a gun owner in CA, so I've spent too much time studying use of force (armed and otherwise) in this craptastic state.

But at least I'm getting the hell out of here in a few months. Store policies like that are to insulate against civil lawsuits, not criminal action. See also the Pizza Hut driver who shot an armed robber in self defense and was subsequently fired.

[Uncle_Ho]

Wow, I did not realize there were so many Cop haters that were members of WiH. I will not post any more of my adventures that way there will be less negative things here.

I can't help if the cop's hired by the agencys that are controled by the officials you elected in your neck of the woods are sub standard. That seems like a issue for you to take up with the politicians you elected.

As for the evaulation of my personality, that was most entertaining. Having to deal with TURDS on a daily basis, the last thing I want is to waste my off time dealing with them. I try to maintian a low profile. I don't have time for court that is not related to my job.

I would never have pushed the issue had the clerk not put his hands on me. I would love to see how other "Non Police" would have handled it. I never crossed the counter or threatend him in any way, doing so would make me a criminal. He never told me to leave until he grabed me. Even with him shouting at me I mearly tried to reason with him. But for some here I suppose I should have held his hand and sang kumbya.

I know when you put a personal story up in an attempt to entertian or show others bad things happen to anyone you invite critisism. Lesson learned.

Anyway, glad some of you got a laugh. As for the cop haters, forum rules prohibit me from posting anymore.

Almost forgot there is a pic posted of me on here someplace for your viewing pleasure. And for those wondering what kind of cop I am, I work for the military, federal, not state. I haven't been a civilian beat cop in years.

[Innocent-Bystander]

We can only form opinions on the information furnished.

"I said ok, now I realize that you are an old dumbass suffering from Alzheimers that is pissed off because you didn't plan your retirement well and are here working for $6.50 an hour at a truck stop, but surely you can figure something out here that will keep your job intact and put gas in my tank without any further public display of stupidity on your part."

Were these your words that set him off? When do I throw up the mental wall with cops? When they show the explained attitude. Blaming your attitude on 'TURDS' you deal with on a daily basis doesn't hold any water. If you can't handle the job, your not meant for it. If you are having to deal with negativity on a daily basis, maybe its not the whole world? I read a story about a cop that was on the side of the road in heavy traffic, getting his ass beat and nobody stopped to help. When I was young I would have stopped to help, but I have been so disenchanted by their actions that I would now think, "What did he do to deserve that?" The question police should ask, "What can we do to restore the public trust?"

I don't hate cops, I hate bullies. Not a bully? What can I do to help? I don't know you, so, my questions in the first person are not meant for you personally. I fear cops and the danger I see they hold for the population as a whole.

[Knottwobad]

I think you should keep posting them Ho, I think it is up to the owners whether or not it is causing undo tension on the sight. Unless the ones who obviously had trouble with the law in the past truly upset you that is your choice but I like hearing the stories personally.

[Kennel-Dog]

Unless the ones who obviously had trouble with the law in the past

What a presumptuous statement. Its laughable that you automatically assume because someone see's something very wrong with the way that story went down that they've "had trouble with the law"

[Innocent-Bystander]

What a presumptuous statement. Its laughable that you automatically assume because someone see's something very wrong with the way that story went down that they've "had trouble with the law"

Ditto. Never been arrested, never had a run in with the cops. I'm not saying Ho is a bad guy. From what I hear, he's a stand up guy. Regan is a stand up guy. As they are members of these forums and fun to play with, I welcome their company. If they feel slighted by my points, then that wasn't my intention. Only to help them see what the people of the U.S. think and what can they do to help.

[Grim_Scythe]

Everyone has an opinion and each should be respected for it and we should nto assume things of others....lets not all get riled up over others views/opinions...

So lets just relieve the tension by giving each a massage :D

[FozzyBear]

I actually had to give grim a POS rep for his post. Well said..... except for the massage part. There are only a few that could do that for me :)

[Grim_Scythe]

I got soft hands...

[Fovos]

another good Ho story. i dont hate cops, i dont hate authority though i have some problems on obey on it sometimes, and since i travel alot i have no problem with tsa either, most of th times! lol
one thing i hate is people giving attitude and try to give hard time to other people for no reason or just to make them selfs feel better.
good for Ho that he call the cops on him, he got what his miserable life deserved.

[Gruthar]

Well, there's no doubt that Ho tends to verbally incite people in these situations (and I do like the stories, by the way.) Honestly I think Ho should've asked to speak to the manager prior to insulting the guy. But it's worth noting that if Ho was truly a vengeful a-hole, he would not have dropped the assault charges. I'm more inclined to criticize the clerk, me having (lamentably) come from a Customer Whoring (or service) background myself. The end result, the clerk being fired - to me - is justified, regardless of the theatrics in between.

The clerk just wasn't cut out for his job, so him being fired might not necessarily be a bad thing. First of all, rules are not set in stone, and if the clerk was afraid of bending the rules, he certainly could've asked his manager for permission. Were I in his shoes I would've just allowed the $40 or $100 deposit and no one would've been the wiser. At worst, I would've been chewed out by a manager on a power trip, giving me the opportunity to complain about a stupid rule or just outright quit. This type of employment isn't exactly rare. The whole point of the job is to facilitate transactions and to be helpful, and the clerk refused to do either (prior to the name calling.)

Two, the clerk lost his cool. Shit will come your way when you have to deal with people, and the job requires you to grin and bear it to some extent. After the situation escalated (which it shouldn't have IMO), the clerk was well within his rights to deny Ho service. Had he not taken it upon himself to throw Ho out of the store, the story would've ended there. If Ho had insisted on making a scene after being told to leave, he could've turned the tables and had Ho arrested for trespassing. Instead he lost out by letting his pride get the better of him.

It would be absolutely wonderful if every customer came in with a smile and a pleasant attitude. But it doesn't happen, and I don't view it as a requirement for me to do my job. If I were to mouth off or try to throw someone out, I would expect to be fired. You pick your battles. It sucks, but this is why no sane person makes a career out of customer service.

[papasan9]

i think alot of people are being presumptious....

however, when someone posts they open themselves up to opinions.... thats not always fun. dont stop posting ho.... is part of the free society concept everyone like kennel, ib and yourself have served and fought for.

i didnt read the police brutality/power abuse angle into the story as others did.

ive got a story...

i signed a closed contract when i joined up, 5811 - MP...

within an hour of arriving at mcrd san diego, i was pulled out of the platoon and was up against the wall with a processing DI verbally kicking my ass about...."if i ever pull him over and give him a ticket he was going to mop the floor with my ass" etc.

i was the only person pulled out and harassed at that point out of 80 guys. i mean we had fattys, pvt. pyles.... all kinds of people to harass.... that DI had my personnele jacket in his hands while he was going off. is funny in retrospect, but at the time was thinking....shiiiiit, this guy really hates cops and this is going to be a long fucking 3 months.

back to the point... everyone is a cop hater on some level except cops. try not to let it bother you. on monday of last week, i watched a local pd cop give an old woman 10 bucks in gas out of his pocket after she had come in to the shitandgit and was needing help.

gruthar is right on the nose too.

[kilroy0097]

I don't care either way really if people think it was appropriate or not, abuse of power of position or not, stupidity or not on the clerk's behalf.

I'm just glad a dumbass finally got removed for being a complete dipshit. I for one enjoyed the story quite a bit.

[JustMeBF2]

back to the point... everyone is a cop hater on some level except cops. try not to let it bother you. on monday of last week, i watched a local pd cop give an old woman 10 bucks in gas out of his pocket after she had come in to the shitandgit and was needing help.

gruthar is right on the nose too.

This is the problem with the reputation of any type of police.

For every good story there is 10,000 bad ones.

I like your stories Ho.

[Knottwobad]

What a presumptuous statement. Its laughable that you automatically assume because someone see's something very wrong with the way that story went down that they've "had trouble with the law"

You are correct, this was presumptious of me. :spank:

I appologize if I offended anyone.

Rock on Kennel Dog.

[SnaKe]

I'm locking this thread.