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StevenNevets
04-29-2008, 11:14 PM
Theres a birds nest on top of the light on my front porch with 3 eggs and I'd leave it alone but everytime I go to open the door the mom feels like flipping out and churping at me for 5 minutes. Slightly irritating.



What if I carefully moved it onto a realy close by tree? The bird always goes on it already.

SLCoran
04-29-2008, 11:20 PM
A shotgun would move it. Shoot that bird with a super soaker full jalapeņo juice that would fix it if you want it to suffer. Other then that just deal with the bird.

antigen
04-30-2008, 12:13 AM
bear with her... two more months tops... someone had to deal with your crying butt for 18 years, and you still send her cards.

speaking of which... it's almost mothers day...

Gruthar
04-30-2008, 12:14 AM
I do believe it is illegal to disturb a bird's nest (unless it's a non-native species.) I would just leave them be unless it's absolutely critical that they be moved. They won't be there much longer.

That said, I think how well the mother responds to the nest relocation depends on the species of bird. I only ever tried to move one nest, and that was a mourning dove's nest. In my case the chicks had already hatched, but the nest was in a mesquite that was uprooted by a storm and about to collapse on my parents' driveway. I moved the entire nest (with gloves) to another mesquite tree about 50ft away. The mother seems to have had little problem finding and caring for the chicks again. Other bird species may reject the chicks or just not bother looking for the nest if it's not where they built it...

LordBeer
04-30-2008, 12:24 AM
I know it's illegal in IL to move one.

kilroy0097
04-30-2008, 01:46 AM
Depending on your evil nature the alternative is robin egg soup. Or other favorites of the woodland people.

Shadowryche
04-30-2008, 11:58 AM
Depends mostly on the species of the bird. If there are eggs it wouldn't be wise at all to disturb the nest. Parents would just abandon it and go try for another clutch. Once the chicks hatch in often cases mama will keep a close eye and tend to the young reguardless of where you put the nest. And you generally don't need to wear gloves. Birds typically won't kill their young just because they smell like a human. I've rescued several baby birds having worked at Cedar Point and a number of carnivals in the spring time. Pulling trailers into a lot you bump a lot of over hanging trees and knock out nests or ambitious chicks.

Uncle_Ho
04-30-2008, 12:21 PM
If you move it use rubber gloves with no powder in them. Do it at night the mother bird is less likely to see you and put it as near to the location the mother last saw it as you can to insure she finds it.

LordBeer
04-30-2008, 12:47 PM
Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918

Following close on the heels of the Lacey Act and the Weeks-McLean Law, the framers of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act were determined to put an end to the commercial trade in birds and their feathers that, by the early years of the 20th century, had wreaked havoc on the populations of many native bird species.

The Migratory Bird Treaty Act decreed that all migratory birds and their parts (including eggs, nests, and feathers) were fully protected.

The Migratory Bird Treaty Act is the domestic law that affirms, or implements, the United States' commitment to four international conventions (with Canada, Japan, Mexico, and Russia) for the protection of a shared migratory bird resource. Each of the conventions protect selected species of birds that are common to both countries (i.e., they occur in both countries at some point during their annual life cycle). A List of Migratory Birds protected by the Migratory Bird Treaty Act is available.

For those desiring additional information on the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, a detailed synopsis is available. That section of the United States Code pertaining to the Migratory Bird Treaty Act can also be accessed.

http://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/intrnltr/treatlaw.html

Guess the legality depends on the type of bird, but dont ask me to ID the bird for you. I'd honestly just say leave it alone. I've had the same kinda situation with morning doves. Wont be that long until they fly away.

StevenNevets
04-30-2008, 02:39 PM
YUMMY BIRDY





Not really. I guess I'll leave it to hatch unless someone gets a beak to the eye. Seems to be getting more used to people now so it's not as big a deal when I open the door.

StevenNevets
05-08-2008, 02:05 PM
Alright now there's 4 aborted demon embyros in there.

How much longer should it be?

kilroy0097
05-09-2008, 12:48 AM
The number of eggs are growing so the first one laid has got to be near it's hatching period I would think.

information Source: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080422160502AA5ZaeB


"Nesting: Two broods of 3-5 blue-green eggs with a 12-14 day incubation period. Fledging occurs 14-16 days after hatching. The nest is a mud cup lined with soft grass and reinforced with grass and twigs. The nest is usually placed in a tree, on a ledge, or on a windowsill."

http://www.bird-friends.com/BirdPage.php?name=American+Robin
So they will hatch 12-14 days after the mother began incubating the eggs, and the babies will be fledging (leaving the nest) about 14-16 days after that.

Remember, though, that when they first leave the nest, they will not yet be flying, so you need to be careful of any pets or children that may be in the area.

Baby birds fledge (leave the nest) several days before they start to fly. They hop around on the ground, and they climb on low branches until their wings are strong enough for them to fly. The parent birds continue to feed and care for the fledglings until they are self-sufficient. If you see a baby bird on the ground, and the bird has most of his feathers, leave him alone. Do not think that he needs to be "rescued."

If you see a baby bird on the ground, and the baby is naked or he has mostly fuzz, he is a nestling and is not ready to fledge. Try to put him back in the nest. Remember, do not worry about your scent being on him. It won't bother the mother. Birds do not have an acute sense of smell, and the parents will not detect your scent on the baby.

If you can not get the nestling back into his own nest, hang a basket (like an easter basket) on a tree limb as close to the nest as you can reach. Place paper towel in the bottom of the basket, and put some grass and leaves in with the baby bird. The parents find their babies by sound, not by sight or smell, so as long as they can hear the baby, they will come and feed him. Placing it on a high limb will keep cats and other predators from getting it, as they would if you left it on the ground.

If you find a baby bird on the ground, and it seem to have been injured by the fall - or if you find an injured adult bird - contact a licensed wildlife rehabilitator. You should be able to find one here:
http://www.tc.umn.edu/~devo0028/contact.htm
or here: http://www.wildliferehabber.org/
Licensed wildlife rehabilitators have the specialized training to care for sick, injured and orphaned wild animals, and they have the required state and federal licenses that allow them to keep the wild animals until they are healthy enough to be released.

Do not take the animal to a vet - vets are for pets, and most vets do not have the expertise to care for wild animals; nor do most vets have the proper licenses that would allow them to keep a recuperating wild animal.

Do not attempt to keep a wild bird and care for it yourself. Remember, in the US, all native migratory birds are protected under federal law (Migratory Bird Treaty Act), and it is illegal to keep any protected bird unless you have the required federal permits.

While preparing an injured bird to go to the rehabber, place him in a small box lined with paper towel - not cloth, as the bird's nails could get caught in the material. Cover the box and place it in a warm, dark, quiet area. Do not allow any animals, children or excitable adults near it. Do not attempt to feed the bird - if you do not know what species it is, you don't know what to feed it, and an inexperienced person can kill a bird attempting to feed it. Do not attempt to give it any water - it could aspirate and die. Get it to a rehabber as quickly as possible, within 4-6 hours if possible.

Hope some of this information has helped.

StevenNevets
05-09-2008, 01:18 PM
ew omfg.... I saw one of them (still super young) on the ground and I was sure it was dead.


to make things worst.... it's not

egghhhhh it's dieing, I think. there's liquid around it.



:(



No ones around so I put it back in the nest (without barehanding it). Seems better than leaving it on the ground.

Saur
05-09-2008, 08:45 PM
you're a terrible caretaker. I had a bird nest in a wreath my wife put on a door this spring. We counted 5 eggs, and before long there were 4 birds (actually 5, he was on the bottom though lmao) They all finally left the nest last week. Took the wreath off and now there's bird crap all over the door. Got that cleaned off now too though. 5/5 w00rd I'm so proud *tear* it was hard seeing them go

<3 Saur

Uncle_Ho
05-10-2008, 12:53 AM
Buy a cat, you won't have that problem again:bolt:

ft-agent
05-10-2008, 01:01 AM
I do believe it is illegal to disturb a bird's nest (unless it's a non-native species.) I would just leave them be unless it's absolutely critical that they be moved. They won't be there much longer.



There must be an exception when it is nesting on your physical property above your front door. Just call the police and say it's a threat to your well being I'm sure they'll take care of it. But like gruthar was saying the mother will probably not take care of the little ones if you relocate the nest. You can take the risk of losing an eye when getting the paper in the morning or be a bird terrorist and relocate the nest to a safer location, just make sure no one is watching if you do it because you don't want to have the policia at your doorstep for messing with nature. One eye or jail it's a win lose shituation.

Wibby
05-10-2008, 04:15 AM
just make sure no one is watching if you do it because you don't want to have the policia at your doorstep for messing with nature. One eye or jail it's a win lose shituation.

Wow do people actually care that much about small birds? Growing up in WY if a bird nested by our front door the nest would have been gone by the end of the day and nobody would have given two shits about it.

Uncle_Ho
05-10-2008, 01:24 PM
Exactly

SnaKe
05-13-2008, 10:06 AM
There must be an exception when it is nesting on your physical property above your front door. Just call the police and say it's a threat to your well being I'm sure they'll take care of it. But like gruthar was saying the mother will probably not take care of the little ones if you relocate the nest. You can take the risk of losing an eye when getting the paper in the morning or be a bird terrorist and relocate the nest to a safer location, just make sure no one is watching if you do it because you don't want to have the policia at your doorstep for messing with nature. One eye or jail it's a win lose shituation.


Buy a cat, you won't have that problem again:bolt:


Wow do people actually care that much about small birds? Growing up in WY if a bird nested by our front door the nest would have been gone by the end of the day and nobody would have given two shits about it.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

But I do admit I liked hearing Gruthar's nest moving story! You da man Gruthar! :thumbsup:

I'll have to find the video where a 4 ft King snake is crawling up the corner of my house trying to get to a Robin's nest on my drain pipe. I dont think I've posted it before.

StevenNevets
05-13-2008, 01:24 PM
I'll have to find the video where a 4 ft King snake is crawling up the corner of my house trying to get to a Robin's nest on my drain pipe. I dont think I've posted it before.DO IT AND GIME THE SNAKE:cheers:



For anyone wondering the birds are still in the nest, starting to look like birds now.

Crotch-Rot
05-13-2008, 02:07 PM
Dude... NEVER ever tell Snake to give you the Snake. EVER!! Don't ask how I know.

StevenNevets
05-13-2008, 02:47 PM
Dude... NEVER ever tell Snake to give you the Snake. EVER!! Don't ask how I know.Are we still talking about the reptile?

Crotch-Rot
05-13-2008, 02:56 PM
Snake would say it's his pet Snake.