To naysayers

[dbodenheim]

My brother Ryan ( solid Wih counterstriker) and long term friend Salem Saberhagen ( bryan) LiT saber hate this game.



I dont have a clue why. My brother says he wants tight squad combat in game, and because of the demo he wont give this game a shot.

In counterstrike tournament. We had tight game squad combat. It was a good thing.


Being Jeff though.I have to be honest. Krunkert, jwolly. Im glad your giving this game a shot. You two have been with me for at least a year now. Filthy ( chris), zilong, grim, major payne, killer B you guys are on a different path. ( in my mind the right one)


Brian / Ryan Im sorry you guys dont get" iT." And ill always be your CS / guild wars pal but you just dont know the adrenaline that is pumped when you and your buddy keep your tanks alive, it blows CS out of the water. Sorry the demo didnt do it for you. Its not just a clanmate thing either. Tonight 4 seperate clans kept each other alive for many minutes, just the 4 of us ( solo represenatives) with some armor, for a long time, with more teamwork then youll eveer fathom from CS. A naysayer will shrug it off, one who has lived and died squad combat wont. Sorry. You dont understand. I wont push the topic, you live it or you dont.

Cheers to you Demoneyes
=HR=Meltdown
Atomic Bob
Jeff rom HR! ( woot me)

Some folks that should post here who got booted but shouldt have, get teamspeak, your worthy!


Im most mad at you ryan, i led you on to a great game like counterstrike which your throughly addicted. You based your thoughts ( BF2 thoughts) on the demo. You never got in a real squad, you dont know what you can do. If your lagging and your graphics suck thats one thing. If you cant run the game I understand that. Other whys, I dont understand why you dont like it, and you still havnt made it clear even to me. "Ive never had a more personal experiene in gaming history then Atomic Bob and I repairing each others tanks while demoneyes tells us to push the goddam flag harder then we were pushing it the first time." If thats not intimate combat, you dont know what the hell is.

[dbodenheim]

And Bob, not that anyone will say differnet. But you are my brother in arms when it comes to tanks. Whether your right behind me, or firing at me. It makes no differnece. Your a proffesional in your class. ( tanks) Heres to you always being on my team ( or blowing up by me).


Dave

[moldykorn]

Hokey tanks and ancient infantry are no match for a good Cobra at your hands. :yaya:

[karl_58sow]

More teamplay / squad based fighting is what I've liked about BF2 so far. Actually I think its more tightly squad based because you can join a squad and bam you have a team that you will always be spawning next to and alot of times if you join a few, you can find the one that is really cooperative as a team. I know I had some pretty good moments but I had to try a couple squads to see which one was working together more.

[meltdown]

Eh I was so so tonight Jeff, I was more concerned with screwing around, checking out the maps and just playing... So imagine when I'm actually on the ball (and I think Dinky was alot the same as well). Think I might reload Gamecam on my machine and record some demos to post up here for people to see what it is like, but it will have to be after I get the "oooo pretty" mentality out of my system (case in point, when I spent a minute and a half just checking out the puddles with Dinky last night). I think some real demos showing what it is like with the VoiP chatter in the background will make a difference to some.

[marcusforealius]

And Bob, not that anyone will say differnet. But you are my brother in arms when it comes to tanks. Whether your right behind me, or firing at me. It makes no differnece. Your a proffesional in your class. ( tanks) Heres to you always being on my team ( or blowing up by me).


gaaaayyyy :jerkit:
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[GorroXXII]

That was a good movie!!!

[monos]

That was a good movie!!!

you are a sick man Gorro that movie sucked royal ass

[GorroXXII]

That was a good movie!!!

you are a sick man Gorro that movie sucked royal ass

:rofl: sooo it would be wrong to say that is my all time favorite movie...

[monos]

That was a good movie!!!

you are a sick man Gorro that movie sucked royal ass

:rofl: sooo it would be wrong to say that is my all time favorite movie...

Wrong? No. Deeply disturbing? Yes. but then i believe as far as being disturbing is concerned i believe the term Res Judicata applies

[SalemSaberhagen]

I thought I gave you an explaination....

But I guess I will do it again.

1.) Game is the exact same thing as BF1942... which I own and HATE.
2.) Just like in BF1942... sniper rifles SUCK. I shouldn't have to hit somebody 4 or 5 times in the chest for them to go down.
3.) EA
4.) The bugs in the demo were too extreme
5.) EA is filled with nazi-like greedy "people" that need to not have their pockets filled with my hard earned cash
6.) Graphics are not very good for a 2005 game
7.) Gameplay is dull
8.) System hog (game looks like crap and takes up a gig of ram nearly?).

[Vryllyn]

I thought I gave you an explaination....

But I guess I will do it again.

1.) Game is the exact same thing as BF1942... which I own and HATE.
2.) Just like in BF1942... sniper rifles SUCK. I shouldn't have to hit somebody 4 or 5 times in the chest for them to go down.
3.) EA
4.) The bugs in the demo were too extreme
5.) EA is filled with nazi-like greedy "people" that need to not have their pockets filled with my hard earned cash
6.) Graphics are not very good for a 2005 game
7.) Gameplay is dull
8.) System hog (game looks like crap and takes up a gig of ram nearly?).

1. This is nothing like BF1942.

2. Depends on the distance.

3. Who cares if it's EA...

4. It's a demo, not a final release.

5. See $3.

6. What kind of Video Care do you have?

7. Dull? Must be playing a different game. It's more intense then CS.

8. Most newer games are requiring heavier requirements. This is nothing new.

[marcusforealius]

I agree with everything Salem just said

[monos]

you guys must be drunk this game does not resemble BF1942 and BFV that much. i mean cmon you wanna talk about games that are no different from previous releases from the same company.... HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!! CSS same ass clowns that can't keep people from hacking and ruining the game for everyone, rereleasing the maps from a previous version, updating the software in the middle of the evening while everyone is online playing cmon, i'll take EA over the TOTAL RETARDS AT VALVE ANYDAY........ and i have not yet begun to rant about !@#%@^@^#%^&#%^&#%^&#%^&#^&^&#%^&#&*$^*$&$^&*$^&*$ hitboxes the Morons at valve would not know what a good map was if it came up and bit their sack off. :rant:

[meltdown]

I thought I gave you an explaination....

But I guess I will do it again.

1.) Game is the exact same thing as BF1942... which I own and HATE.

Um it is?! OMG please tell me then how to turn on the 3D map, where to find a 64 player server running a map actually fit for 64 players, how to get into a sqd, use the built in VoiP, and become commander in '42... My god i need to reinstall that game as I obviously missed everything.


2.) Just like in BF1942... sniper rifles SUCK. I shouldn't have to hit somebody 4 or 5 times in the chest for them to go down.

Um, it's called body armor against a small calibar rounds at long range. Plus a collision mesh bug, wait a month for PoE or Desert Conflict and it will go away. There is also far more use to snipers than just "killing" people. With their scope they make the best tools for commanders to use to spot hostile advancements at a distance, but then that would require teamwork and less emphasis on having a HUGE KtD ratio score.



4.) The bugs in the demo were too extreme
5.) EA is filled with nazi-like greedy "people" that need to not have their pockets filled with my hard earned cash

Except none of us could buy BF2 and guess what, they'd still make a killing with their exclusive NFL and NBA deals. They would just stop making BF games, you not buying it changes zilch, other than missing out on an otherwise great gaming experience. But then one day you'll probably realise 99% of corporations and companies just care about making money and are "greedy" (actually they just want to make the largest profit possible by legal means, that's capitalism).


6.) Graphics are not very good for a 2005 game

Compared to what on what system?! On a 6800GT, 1280x960 everything on high, 4x/4x AA/AF the game is probably the best looking game out to date. You obviously are either running on an older card, or something. Even the 5 minute promo video they did of all in game shots has probably the best looking screens I've ever seen. And it's most deffinatly better in gfx than CS:S.


7.) Gameplay is dull

I suppose if you want the type of simplistic gameplay of CS:S where a single man can pull a hat trick and win the round then yes it's dull. When you're in a full squad of 6 being pinned down by support fire zinging over your head, while trying to flank the enemy. Or have the entire 32 members of the enemy team not 100 meters from you trying to push down a city block that you and several others are trying to hold as you dodge down narrow alleys, popping smoke to cover your advance and trying to get support from the rooftops it's the greatest experience in the world. But hey some people don't like the chaos of mass combat and that's cool. BTW how is a game where the only point is shooting dead each member of the opposing team before they shoot dead every member of your team in a small, predictable map (especially predictable for those of us who have been playing since the original HL:CS Betas) not any more dull than one where you actually have to set up defenses, hold points and depend on more than just yourself to win the day?


8.) System hog (game looks like crap and takes up a gig of ram nearly?).

Um nearly every game takes up nearly that much space. Hell most MMO's these days take up up that much memory. 1 Gig is nothing now, especially when you can buy a gig of ram for ~$50.

NOTE: None of the views within this post represent the views of ANYONE but myself. Just my opinion to such a reply is all.

[SalemSaberhagen]

I thought I gave you an explaination....

But I guess I will do it again.

1.) Game is the exact same thing as BF1942... which I own and HATE.
2.) Just like in BF1942... sniper rifles SUCK. I shouldn't have to hit somebody 4 or 5 times in the chest for them to go down.
3.) EA
4.) The bugs in the demo were too extreme
5.) EA is filled with nazi-like greedy "people" that need to not have their pockets filled with my hard earned cash
6.) Graphics are not very good for a 2005 game
7.) Gameplay is dull
8.) System hog (game looks like crap and takes up a gig of ram nearly?).

1. This is nothing like BF1942.

2. Depends on the distance.

3. Who cares if it's EA...

4. It's a demo, not a final release.

5. See $3.

6. What kind of Video Care do you have?

7. Dull? Must be playing a different game. It's more intense then CS.

8. Most newer games are requiring heavier requirements. This is nothing new.

2.) Snipers shouldn't have to be 10 feet away... they are meant to kill from a distance.
3.) I do... I can't stand EA and will not support anything they do... especially when it is a terrible game like BF2
4.) A demo that came out what... 2 weeks before the final game? I guess ALL of those bugs were squashed right? BUT OH WAIT...


Plus a collision mesh bug

Guess that answers that question.
6.) BFG GF 6800 Ultra OC
7.) Yes... very dull for me. If I try to snipe all I do is lay there in a "high traffic" area and then get shot by a tank (which I can't do anything about since it is a tank). Everybody is in vehicles for the most part and I hate having to drive around in a vehicle just to do anything.
8.) Yes... higher requirements I will agree with... however, I think they could have optimized this WAY more than they have... This game doesn't even have true dynamic shadows... how pathetic.

[GorroXXII]

I'll agree on the sniper part...

[meltdown]

First there is more to this game than sniping (why is it 90% of everyone in these games it seems like wants to be a sniper).

Second, you played Gulf of Oman. They selected that for a demo for a reason, it is a good mix of Infantry and vehicle combat, about evenly divided 50/50 on how much of it is making the difference. Thus it gives a good indication of feel for MOST of the players (very few of whom ever play one narrowly limited kit like Sniper, most play Medics, Assault, Engi's, etc. that have multiple uses, snipers just have two purposes, sit way in the back and occasionally kill someone, and spot for the comander). And actually snipers in this game are probably closer to a realistic representation of snipers than say in CS:S where a good player can run full bore and pull off snap shots with an AWP if they are good enough (i.e. 3D caliber). If you want a heavier, more infantry intense map than you'd want to play Strike on Karnak which is a dense urban map, or something along the same. With things like Dam and power station being primarly Vehicle based maps. Remember EA is trying to make a game that more realistically shows large scale combat, not focus on small squad combat like R6 series/CS:S, and large scale, full blown war combat is not for everyone. Just like squad based combat is not for everyone.

[GorroXXII]

Just like squad based combat is not for everyone.

But is damn fun!!!

[SalemSaberhagen]

First there is more to this game than sniping (why is it 90% of everyone in these games it seems like wants to be a sniper).

Second, you played Gulf of Oman. They selected that for a demo for a reason, it is a good mix of Infantry and vehicle combat, about evenly divided 50/50 on how much of it is making the difference. Thus it gives a good indication of feel for MOST of the players (very few of whom ever play one narrowly limited kit like Sniper, most play Medics, Assault, Engi's, etc. that have multiple uses, snipers just have two purposes, sit way in the back and occasionally kill someone, and spot for the comander). And actually snipers in this game are probably closer to a realistic representation of snipers than say in CS:S where a good player can run full bore and pull off snap shots with an AWP if they are good enough (i.e. 3D caliber). If you want a heavier, more infantry intense map than you'd want to play Strike on Karnak which is a dense urban map, or something along the same. With things like Dam and power station being primarly Vehicle based maps. Remember EA is trying to make a game that more realistically shows large scale combat, not focus on small squad combat like R6 series/CS:S, and large scale, full blown war combat is not for everyone. Just like squad based combat is not for everyone.

Not my fault they picked a terrible map... I won't buy the game just to try out a more infantry heavy map.

Also... I always like being the sniper in games... in the BF2 demo I didn't just play sniper... I tried it for a while... saw it was like BF1942 (See: Sucked) so I went and tried some others... I tried everything but the medic (well... and the commander... but that is different). And I just didn't like it.

[GorroXXII]

well to each their own, I can't stand CS, but it is a very popular game... so I cannot argue his point, if you don't like it you don't like it, so go grab yourself snacky thingy smore and enjoy(Monos what the hell is this anyway?)

[SalemSaberhagen]

I don't like CSS anymore either.

[monos]

well to each their own, I can't stand CS, but it is a very popular game... so I cannot argue his point, if you don't like it you don't like it, so go grab yourself snacky thingy smore and enjoy(Monos what the hell is this anyway?)

it is from south park the movie bigger longer and uncut
NEWSREEL
ANCHOR: Snacky Smores presents: "The March of War". Let's hear it for our boys in blue! President Clinton has called them to action, to fight the evil Canadian scourge. A full-scale attack has been launched on Toronto, after the Canadians' last bombing, which took a horrible toll on the Arquette family. For security measures, our great American government is rounding up all citizens that have any Canadian blood, and putting them into camps. All Canadian-American citizens are to report to one of these Death Camps right away. Did I say, "Death Camps"? I meant, "Happy Camps", where you will eat the finest meals, have access to fabulous doctors, and be able to exercise regularly. Meanwhile, the war criminals, Terrance and Phillip, are prepped for their execution. Their execution will take place during a fabulous USO show, with special guest celebrities, including Big Gay Al, and Winona Ryder. Of course, the only way to see the USO show is to sign up for the army! So join the army and kill some Canadian scum, as we continue..."The march of War"! (Eat Snacky Smores.)

[GorroXXII]

well to each their own, I can't stand CS, but it is a very popular game... so I cannot argue his point, if you don't like it you don't like it, so go grab yourself snacky thingy smore and enjoy(Monos what the hell is this anyway?)

it is from south park the movie bigger longer and uncut when they play the recruitment video for the war against canada at the end it says real quick "eat snacky smore's" since they were a sponser of the war video. snacky smores are a fictional snack in south park.

oh gotcha...

[Vryllyn]

I don't like CSS anymore either.

I don't blame you. I hate CSS as well.