Da Vinci's 'Last Supper' at 16 billion pixels

[FozzyBear]

http://www.haltadefinizione.com/en/

For your viewing enjoyment.....


The person sitting to the right of Jesus "may" have a wedding ring on........


For those that are literate and have read books....please discuss/argue/.........................


EDIT: there is also a knife to the left of the picture. "Subject's right"



I am curious to know if this is an accurate picture to the original... Anyone know??

[Winter]

Artistically, it's tipically Da Vinci. All of the lines from the roof, walls, and table go to a single vanishing point, which happens to be the middle of Jesus' face. Jesus is also presented in a triangular pose, something Da Vinci did a lot of as well.

I can't see a wedding ring, but it would consistent with marriage traditions at the time, Jewish and Catholic (Da Vinci was Catholic, there's a lot of symbolism in his work). The meal also appears to be Kosher, which would be accurate.

Jesus is the 7th figure, counted from the left and right. This might be a remark to the significance of the number 7 in religion. It looks a bit like a menorah/candelabra, so there may be some more Catholic thrown in there.

I'm not quite sure, but the knife appears to be in the man's hand, rested against his hip. I'm not sure if that's what everyone else sees.

That's all I've got for now.

[Gruthar]

I am curious to know if this is an accurate picture to the original... Anyone know??

In what respect? I'm fairly certain the image was taken of the real deal in Milan. As far as the accuracy of the restorations done to it over the centuries, I'm not sure. My understanding is that scholars have been able to dig up some of Da Vinci's sketches related to the painting, and they did a whole battery of tests to the thing during the last restoration, so it hasn't been drastically altered. However, there's some controversy as to the accuracy of the latest restoration, and the painting has been damaged/poorly restored so many times before that portions of it were deemed irreperable... I'm not sure it really matters. There are early copies of "The Last Supper" that suggest some details are missing from the original. Unfortunately, all the people who knew for certain what the original looked like are long dead. Wikipedia, as usual, has some good information:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Supper_(Leonardo)

[PoPJaY]

ya I've read both angel and demons, and the Da vinci code, and the argument that the "man" to jesus's right is a woman may be true
"he" does look very femmine

also if you zoom in all the way onto the person face to jesus right the one that may be a woman
at certain points you can see "H9" written in "his face"

[juuh77]

Well the sad thing about that painting is that he used 2 different types of paint which looked great at the time but does not age nearly as well as one would like.

[Gruthar]

ya I've read both angel and demons, and the Da vinci code, and the argument that the "man" to jesus's right is a woman may be true
"he" does look very femmine

also if you zoom in all the way onto the person face to jesus right the one that may be a woman
at certain points you can see "H9" written in "his face"

It was common practice to make depictions of neophytes (newbs essentially :D) look especially feminine as a means to express their inferiority to men of greater stature. The person on Jesus' right is supposed to be John, the youngest of the apostles.

Is there some significance to the 'H9'? With all the crap the paintings been through, I'd wager it's just a coincidence...

[FozzyBear]

I think the H9 is a watermark put there by the people that made the image available.....but I'm just guessing.

[StevenNevets]

I think the H9 is a watermark put there by the people that made the image available.....but I'm just guessing.lol yea... It's just a watermark.

[Tykwer]

im "literate and have read books," though i havent read "the" bible (in its entirety) nor the da vinci code. despite that, i still think people read a bit much into it. it's a masterpiece, yes, not because it lends itself to conspiracy theorists, but rather due to its aesthetics and iconic status, but the again, for me, it could just as well be a king or prince with 12 of their guests and it wouldnt make the slightest difference, but that's me. :dunno:

h9 is most certainly a watermark. if i had to guess, i'd say it's shorthand for hal9000, since it says "haltadefinizione by Hal9000" right above it. i dont seem to see it in the other photos though, so that theory may be totally wrong.

and not to jack the thread, but i was going to say how they should do other works and then i noticed the other works link:
http://www.haltadefinizione.com/en/santamariadellegrazie/look.asp
http://www.haltadefinizione.com/en/sangaudenzio/look.asp
http://www.haltadefinizione.com/en/santignazio/look.asp
cool stuff, though im still not exactly sure why you wana see it zoomed to the point that it becomes abstract, though the other images dont seem to suffer from that problem, due to the paint not chipping as bad (and one being of real life). cool stuff regardless.

[Saur]

It was common practice to make depictions of neophytes (newbs essentially :D) look especially feminine as a means to express their inferiority to men of greater stature. The person on Jesus' right is supposed to be John, the youngest of the apostles.

Is there some significance to the 'H9'? With all the crap the paintings been through, I'd wager it's just a coincidence...

Hey, that's interesting, I didn't know that.

<3 Saur

[juuh77]

im "literate and have read books," though i havent read "the" bible (in its entirety) nor the da vinci code. despite that, i still think people read a bit much into it. it's a masterpiece, yes, not because it lends itself to conspiracy theorists, but rather due to its aesthetics and iconic status, but the again, for me, it could just as well be a king or prince with 12 of their guests and it wouldnt make the slightest difference, but that's me. :dunno:

h9 is most certainly a watermark. if i had to guess, i'd say it's shorthand for hal9000, since it says "haltadefinizione by Hal9000" right above it. i dont seem to see it in the other photos though, so that theory may be totally wrong.

and not to jack the thread, but i was going to say how they should do other works and then i noticed the other works link:
http://www.haltadefinizione.com/en/santamariadellegrazie/look.asp
http://www.haltadefinizione.com/en/sangaudenzio/look.asp
http://www.haltadefinizione.com/en/santignazio/look.asp
cool stuff, though im still not exactly sure why you wana see it zoomed to the point that it becomes abstract, though the other images dont seem to suffer from that problem, due to the paint not chipping as bad (and one being of real life). cool stuff regardless.

I agree with you on that sir. People go way farther with the symbolism than I would think its meant to go. Then again with all the stuff he did you never quit know what he meant, after all he did have designs for flight that if he would have had time to work on a little more and apply his ideas, flight might have came about a little earlier.

On to how it looks now compared to the original work I think they have taken alot of stuff out of the painting as they have tried to restore it. Look at the the mona lisa and other works by him around the same time not on walls, The problem with restoration is that if you don't know the exact mix of paints and the full mind set of the painter it will never be the same when fully restored. If they were brave enough to cut the painting off the wall back to just the old style plaster then you would get to see what it really looks like or how he intended to paint it. The used to set their space up with a pinkish or maroon color drawing utensil. Plus they also did alot more detail work on the drawing aspect of it then one would think a master painter does.

[Phyxius]

I'm not quite sure, but the knife appears to be in the man's hand, rested against his hip. I'm not sure if that's what everyone else sees.

That's all I've got for now.

No... the knife is in the hand of the person next to Jesus on the left. The man talking to the person with the knife is holding the wrist of the person with the knife, who, I believe to be a woman (Mary Magdalen)?

[Kegg]

What ever the realizem is depicted or the theories thought up; Di Vinci was a brilliant man, not just in art but also in engineering. He put a lot of thought into a lot of stuff he did, just read my sig. He wrote that even before he could fly, and it is true today as at anytime in history. So, with him, anything can be true.