Custom Map Pub Server #2

[dbodenheim]

Well folks the CAL teams are off and kicking and the match server is still rolling. Though not really getting much use. Someone kicked the idea around of a custom map server. I never used the custom map server when it was available but I want to try to ignite the idea of bringing it back with quality maps. I posted for a few reasons.

1) The CAL league teams can find about 1000 servers out there that are ghost towns with good pings. Its true you cant lock them out, but we can get a good 30 minutes practice before a shmo wanders in there. Just AIM your teams with the IP address or PM them on the boards. On top of that I havnt seen anyone in pub say hey who wants some 5 on 5 action?

2) Lines are getting LONG for the pub server. I played with my dog on the floor of the comp room for 20 minutes yesterday waiting to get in last night. More and more folks are seeing "omg awp'd banned! dust pistols only!" and earmarking are little paradise as their own. "Curses! I would of played earlier if it wasnt for you meddling kids."

3) A high quality Custom map server would draw ALOT of regular folks over once they got the mappack downloaded and installed. Initially, this would free up more space for more meddling kids to make this there home.

4) Its getting routine like a marraige. Maps like Piransi, everyone and i mean EVERYONE knows which t's are running up the ct ramp, and which ct's are running up the t ramp.

So without further ado I plan on scouring the internet for the BEST of THE BEST of the BEST and posting links here so admins can look over them. I know nothing about putting together a map pack. My knowledge limit stops at providing a link that someone else might know what to do with. Im also not saying that the server will flip back to custom, im just going to go ahead and look around anyways (you cant stop me), generate some interest if you are interested. Post your thoughts, and if you want to help look for links remember I am looking for 9 QUALITY MAPS. Old school reproductions I think would generate more interest then 'Bobs leet AWP ownage slayfest"


Dave

nx.Jeff from Human Resources

ps--for donations where do we send to?

[dbodenheim]

Ok after looking for the first hour my first nominee.

http://www.punkassfraggers.com/cgi-bin/datacgi/database.cgi?file=News&report=SingleArticle&ArticleID=0598

This looks pretty damn tight its up to the standards that I wanted to see on a custom map server. Presentation, style, a remake, and nice lighting.

[Vryllyn]

OMG, It's been a while since I've seen that map. That map was pretty cool but also a Camping Paradise.

[dbodenheim]

Nominee #2

Another fantastic lot of work went into this one, for a remake. But it looks sweet.

http://esports.ampednews.com/?page=offsite&link=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5wdW5rYXNzZnJhZ2dlcnMuY29tL2Rvd 25sb2Fkcy9jc19kb2Nrc19kai9jc19kb2Nrc19kal9yZWFkbWU uaHRtbA==

Back to the trenches.

[wihadmin]

Previously, the custom maps server was running:

cs_deadcity
cs_twilight
de_drought
cs_mansion
zt_assault
de_rats
de_inferno_v2

If we were to bring back the custom maps server, we'd start with those... But please post links to other maps that looks interesting.

[GroovyDude]

Previously, the custom maps server was running:

cs_deadcity
cs_twilight
de_drought
cs_mansion
zt_assault
de_rats
de_inferno_v2

If we were to bring back the custom maps server, we'd start with those... But please post links to other maps that looks interesting.

And we would need players to commit playing on this server only until it becomes established. Otherwise it will die as the last custom server did.

[Vryllyn]

Jeff, these are good finds. Most of us who have been playing for a while have been wanting Docks back in rotation for a while.

Docks is one of those maps that create complete hell with FF on. Also it's a Hostage map. This is a very favored T map.

Nuke is also a T favored map. The T's can get to the bomb sites faster then the CT's can cover them. But it's an old favorite.

Both of these would be nice especially if Valve allows them in a Map pack.

Jeff, Can I have your children now? :jester:

[dbodenheim]

I will play only on the custom server til we get established and I bet I can get a lot of people to come over with me.

[Vryllyn]

I'd be all over a Custom Server with those two maps added.

[dbodenheim]

Nominee # 3
Tired of getting your ass kicked in office as a CT? Get it kicked a whole new direction!


http://www.anozireth.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=26


**** boo ..... i posted that and you already had it in the rotation! is it a fun map? I heard nothing but good things about it.

Also, I dont think the custom map server survived, becuase the timing was horrible ( cs source brand new) and b) you have R E T A R D E D folks like me who didnt know where to get the maps, and c) your advertising was lame :P You gotta advertise like me Jeffers and tell folks how EASY it is to download and install this stuff ( even though it probably isnt).

[wihadmin]

That twilight map is nicely done, but there are 2 choke points that the T's can cover really really easy.

[GroovyDude]

Nominee # 3
c) your advertising was lame :P You gotta advertise like me Jeffers and tell folks how EASY it is to download and install this stuff ( even though it probably isnt).

Umm, the front page had an announcement, and I personally had added a thread to the "Announcements" forum that also contained a link to the PAF map pack, whose install was as simple as double clicking on setup.

Just face it man, you loose. :silly:

[Monochrome]

personally i would love to play on the custom maps. figure out what maps you guys want in the rotation, and i'll dl it as soon as you post the map pack. i'm getting ready to build my own comp (eventually) and i'll probably breakdown and play again before then anyway :D

i'll help to make sure a custom map server stays afloat this time 'round :thumbsup:

[SalemSaberhagen]

Wow... I completely forgot about Docks... that is insane. I used to like that map quite a bit but it has been forever since I played it.

Any word on a remake of cs_alley (or whatever that map was)? I like that one pretty well.

[dbodenheim]

de_hooverdam...another cool ass custom map, ct's start on the top, t's on the bottom.

http://photobucket.com/albums/v335/kc703_tank/updated%20hooverdam/?action=view&current=de_hooverbeta0007.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/v335/kc703_tank/updated%20hooverdam/?action=view&current=de_hooverbeta0000.jpg

enclosed a few screenies, this map has been beta'd too, its also finished.

[dbodenheim]

This map is finished and complete and has beed playtested (no bugs found). It was made by the same guy who did the EXCELLENT cs_docks. Anyways take a peek and see if it should be added to custom server.

de_courthouse



http://www.punkassfraggers.com/downloads/de_courthouse/

[wihadmin]

Looks like a cool map! We'll give it a shot on Saturday when they release it.

[SalemSaberhagen]

I have been looking around for some good maps that might be fun to add to the custom server... I play them after I download them to see if they are any good... well anyway... on to my first batch of suggestions:

de_takedown
http://halflife2.filefront.com/file/CS_Source_DE_Takedown_Map;34148#Download
Seemed like it could be a fun map... bomb sites were close but can both be defended decently well... a decent amount of ways to get in for Ts.

de_Faultytowers
http://halflife2.filefront.com/file/CS_Source_DEFaultyTowers_Map;35443
This map is fun. It is very small but there are 2 tall towers very close together and they are the same as one another. The thing that makes the map fun, is that you can shoot out the pillars holding up the ceiling to make the big block ceiling crash down which WILL KILL you Wink.

cs_rooftops
http://halflife2.filefront.com/file/CS_Source_CSRoofTops_Map;35151
This map seemed very complex but I think if you play it enough you would have the routes memorized... I just played it tonight for the first time and it was like a maze for me... but it seemed welldone and I think it would be a nice addition.

That is all for now... I may be back later but I may wait until tomorrow.

[SalemSaberhagen]

de_larose
http://derailment.org/~fatty/de_larose.zip
Pretty fun map. It seemed like the routes were good and you could get a nice rush going... but also wouldn't be screwed with hard defense. About the same setting as Italy.

de_facility
http://www.hl2world.com/bbs/dload.php?action=file&file_id=692
Remake of the old (and fun) map from Goldeneye. A few things are changed but it has the same general layout for the mostpart. It seems like it could be a lot of fun with more than just me walking around ;).

[monos]

Played on the customer map server last nite and up until it crashed it was great. really loved watching some of the more experienced players that kill me consistently run around looking average. my scores were much better since we all had about equal map knowledge (at least until Mr. PotatoHead started fragging me in the same spot, my fault for continuning to go there) however i digress, the custom server is great i will be a regular the since it seems like the wait to get on the main standard map server is getting longer, Not complaining the wait we are seeing should be recognized as a tribute to the manner in which the WiH server is run, everyone that plays there wants to play there all the time. thanks for the kickass servers to play on :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[MajorPayne]

New server rocks, however I think the front page needs updating to show exactly what maps are in it right now, because I found out last night that I need de_rats, a map that I didn't download because it wasn't on the front page.

[wihadmin]

We're trying hard to get things running smoothly. Because maps go in and out of rotation on a moment's notice, sometimes info is not up-to-date. Once things stabilize on the server, then we'll update everything with correct info.

As of now, it's running: nukes, docks, mansion, twilight, zt_assault.

[FozzyBear]

Are you going to put a map pack together on the download section?

The reason I ask is it is easier for me to download one map pack, then search for multiple maps. I have ISDN and it is only a 128/128 connection. Fine for gaming, sucks for downloading.

foz

[SalemSaberhagen]

de_area77
http://www.mj12.info/ftp/necroid/de_area77beta/de_area77beta.rar
Pretty fun map. It seems like it has a good layout and some good defensive points... my only problem with it would have to be that the bomb sites are VERY close (like... way too close).

[GroovyDude]

Are you going to put a map pack together on the download section?

The reason I ask is it is easier for me to download one map pack, then search for multiple maps. I have ISDN and it is only a 128/128 connection. Fine for gaming, sucks for downloading.

foz

Not a bad idea Fozz. Once we get the maps straightened out, I'll see if we can put something together.

[wihadmin]

Here's an update: The Custom Server is now also running

de_cbble2
de_facility
ScoutzKnivez
cs_rooftops
de_courthouse

Enjoy!

[Monochrome]

sweetness, i love scoutznknives! i love this place :rockon:

[zilong]

http://nipper.rocks-hideout.com/

Nipper's hall of death! Dat'd be funny with 32 people. Quite literally 2 spawns separated by a single hall!

[MajorPayne]

Please bring back Drought! That map is awsome! It has a very nice layout, and looks like alot of fun!

[SalemSaberhagen]

Well MajorPayne... it isn't. It has a terrible design, terrible performance when it is more than 2 people on it, and it just looks bad.

[wihadmin]

Please bring back Drought! That map is awsome! It has a very nice layout, and looks like alot of fun!

While it was fun, it was also very laggy for 85% of the players. Ping times usually increase after playing on that map for a while. There is also some sort of memory leak as well.

[dbodenheim]

Hey owners:

Well you asked me to play alot on the custom map server and I keep doing that. Here are this weeks reccomendations.

Keep:

cs_twilight
de_courthouse
cs_mansion ( there has to be a better version of this)
cs_docks (poor ct's get like a 5 second margin of error)
zt_assault
de_cbble2
de_facilty
de_nuke_b8


Lose:

rooftops ( if i wanted to play deathmatch Id play HL2)
scoutzandknives ( fun but ehhhhh.......)

Add:


http://nordlichtclan.ngz-server.de/index.php
and lose nuke_b8 when you can

Also there is another inferno available which may or may not be the one we DID have on the server. I think it is a different one made by the same guys who made the above new NUKE. There should be a download link on the site.

If you want a very basic replacement for scoutz and knives there is a map out there called cs_bridge. Basically its a bridge with multiple ways of going over it. Alot of sniper action, alot of rush action. Its very straightforward though but might be fun with 20+ players.

Dave

[MajorPayne]

I was playing the custom server for hours this moring! And I never encountered de_courthouse, I really wanted to play that map, but was it taken out of rotation?

[wihadmin]

de_courthouse is in the rotation. scoutzknivez and rooftops are out. Will look at installing the new map.

[FiLTHY_SNiPER]

I think mansion is terrible.. it looks worse than most HL1 deathmatch maps. My vote is take it right out. Same with Assault which just doesnt do it for me.

The current Nuke one also looks pretty bad in some places and quite unfinished (awful lighting outside and lack of detail overall) but its still got that classic gameplay.
Cobble2 also aint too hot in terms of looks, the gameplay is alright though i guess.

Courthouse is great, i like that map and same with the current inferno which was very well done. Twilight rocks the boat pretty good too.

If u replace the current Nuke with that new one I'd be much happier as well.

My 2 cents..

[wihadmin]

We'll be replacing nuke_b8 with the go_nuke as soon as we get some time to work on the server.

[MajorPayne]

AHH, more maps to download? Shucks.

[dbodenheim]

If you play the custom map server count on download after download after download. Or at least one every few days for the next few weeks. Then one a month. Then Wallah! 9 pretty good maps are on the server. As it stands the only maps I forsee being around in 2 months are twilight and courthouse ( thats not even his final version) and maybe Maybe docks. If valve releases a new map and chateau gets bumped, id want to see that on the custom server before half the crap thats out there now.

[wihadmin]

Once set settle in a rotation of maps, we'll have a comprehensive map pack that you can download.

[Vryllyn]

Nuke brings back sooooo many memories for me. So does Docks. However, the hostage AI is totally FUBAR. :wallbash:

[dbodenheim]

Update to de_courthouse, he added a third route (sewer system) and a shortcut between A and B. Also some windows out of Jail so T's dont have to run threw the door like lemmings anymore.

[wihadmin]

cs_mansion is out of rotation.

de_train and de_courthouse_final is in rotation now.

[kem$]

Is it normal to have to download the map EVERYTIME you play on the Custom Map server?

[wihadmin]

No. Once a map has been downloaded,it won't download again. What you might be seeing is the downloading of the .ain file. We don't know what that file is for but it always downloads for each custom map.

[dbodenheim]

My first map review for counter-strike source is de_congo. (PAF articles) Anyone interested in trying this map out human style? Otherwise I can ask my other friends.


BOT friend #1 -- "I will play, HUMAN"

BOT friend #2 -- "I too puny HUMAN."

Bot #3 -- "FoSHIZZLE!"

[FiLTHY_SNiPER]

Man.. de_train is UGLY. Same with Facility. God awful ugly they are.

I'd rather ditch the 2 maps, even though the gameplay is good in Train and 'alright' in facility.

What do u think ppl?

Would be much better circulating the nice-looking maps with good gameplay than keep these 2 party crashers in IMO.

[dbodenheim]

BETA for de_hooverdam. Ive been waiting for this map for a while now cause it uses all kinds of heights. No custom textures or anything so it should look alright. There is a link to download on the PAF site.

http://photobucket.com/albums/v335/kc703_tank/updated%20hooverdam/pics/

[dbodenheim]

Nordlict-clan's playable version of their nuke was also released today. It is titled DE_GO_NUKE_b3. I have no idea where to get it.

[dbodenheim]

You have HAVE to check out de_go_nuke_b3.

THAT MAP IS INCREDIBLE. It easily hands down makes most of the official maps look like absolute shit. I know its a beta, but I couldnt find one screwed up texture anywhere. AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME.

[dbodenheim]

I am NOT JOKING about this de_go_nuke_b3.

Admins wont want this map sitting unused on custom map server, I bet you think twice about throwing this badboy on the PUBLIC server. This custom map is in a class all by itself. The ambient sounds , the nuclear blast, geez man.....every texture WORKS even on my crappy comp....wow this is the best of the best of the best custom maps.

[MonkeyWorks]

So where did you end up finding it?

Monkey

[dbodenheim]

Monkey just do a search, edit your filter in map name to de_go_nuke_b3. Didnt take more then a minute to download.

[MonkeyWorks]

Ok I will when I get off work :)

[FiLTHY_SNiPER]

Guess i should give this new Nuke a shot...

Anyone else agree or have comments on Train and Facility looking like garbage?

[wihadmin]

go_nuke_b3 has been installed onto the Custom Server.

[SalemSaberhagen]

Yes facility looks bad but I love the way it plays... but that might be the Goldeneye fan in me ;).

I just got done playing the new nuke... and it looks great but has terrible performance overall... some parts just run like completely crap (like CT spawn... I am in the teens on FPS whereas I am usually 60+).