****Official 2007 NFL Thread****

[-LiT- Killer_B]

Since we don't have a thread yet and the season starts today, I figured I'd start one. I am pulling for a colts victory obviously tonight. Anybody else have any thoughts?

[sir_digalot]

hopefully when Wrecks Grossman is out in the first game for the whole season, due to an injury, i will have high hopes for da bears!

otherwise we are doomed to mediocre performance on sunday

[Grim_Scythe]

My old man has done sort of pooling football betting thing at work....
I guess that's where they bet on a game each week......whatever game comes up I am assuming.

Anyone know a good list to bet their money on?

Yes this man knows nothing of football at all.

[bman65]

hopefully when Wrecks Grossman is out in the first game for the whole season, due to an injury, i will have high hopes for da bears!

otherwise we are doomed to mediocre performance on sunday

I'd take that cause it probably means a win for SD on Sunday.

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

I kick the next sports caster who says the Redskins are going to do anything this season.

[LordBeer]

Maybe Rex will be involved in a car accident before the game.. Or he will slip in the shower. I just know the less I hear/see of him, the more confident I'll be in a Bears win.

[FozzyBear]

Just hoping the Cowboys do well this year :thumbsup:

[sir_digalot]

this sunday is either going to be very depressing or a reason to celebrate, either way, i think i will spend it drunk....

i think even lovie is doubting grossman.....

i do remember a couple of years ago, Orton got all the way to the playoffs, then our buddy Rex shows up, and blows it...... i was drunk for that game too

[jason bourne]

Green Bay all the way, baby... Bears suck :flipoff:

[Suhre]

I have faith in my lions.... I think

[LordBeer]

Green Bay all the way, baby... Bears suck :flipoff:

:lol:

Has Farve retired yet?

[Caruso]

Go chargers and falcons woot too bad Michael vick is a freaking nub

[[W33T] Joker]

Go Raiders :D..yes I said Raiders you got problem..:flipoff:

[sir_digalot]

Favre will appear on field in one of those disabled people electric chairs....

(hell he will still be better then grossman *L*)

[-LiT- Killer_B]

Wow the Colts looked good last night...

[GorroXXII]

The Colts D looked very impressive and screwed me for my Fantasy football as I have Bush, and he scored all on 9 points damn it... as always GO PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Watch out for Brady and those receivers!!! They got what I think an awesome receiver core this year!!! I am worried about the running game, I hope Maloney is ready to step up to the plate!!!

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

Hah I laugh at the sportscasters on ESPN yesterday talking tons of crap about the Colts. NO wasn't even in that game.

[jason bourne]

:lol:

Has Farve retired yet?

I'm actually pretty sure he's setting the all-time touchdowns, yards, attempts, and wins records this season (he's already got the most completions and consecutive starts by a QB).. but forget all that. Has Grossman learned how to throw to his own team yet?

[Caruso]

not sure hahahah

[sir_digalot]

I'm actually pretty sure he's setting the all-time touchdowns, yards, attempts, and wins records this season (he's already got the most completions and consecutive starts by a QB).. but forget all that. Has Grossman learned how to throw to his own team yet?


grossman has not learnt to grab the ball on the snap let alone throw, lets start at basics here.... i am sure he is a huge homophobe and the fact that his hand is near some other guys pinor is reason for him to go all squeemish and girly like, hell for what he gets paid i would probably cup the centers nuts on a cold day if he wanted.... but i am a cheap whore.. :D

i will be driving near soldier field occasionally if i see a #8 crossing the street i will accelerate... it can only help matters :D

[LordBeer]

I'm actually pretty sure he's setting the all-time touchdowns, yards, attempts, and wins records this season (he's already got the most completions and consecutive starts by a QB).. but forget all that. Has Grossman learned how to throw to his own team yet?

You forgot one.. All time career interceptions. He only needs 4 more to receive that honor. :lol: :D

@ digalot - We should make that a NFL season tradition. We'll go driving around trying to cripple people wearing Grossman jerseys.

[Monochrome]

Hopefully my Steelers do better this year, Big Ben better be back to 2004-2005 form and not mr 23 interceptions. Dunno how the new head coach thing is going to affect them this year but more than 8 wins would be nice.

The Colts D killed my fantasy team too, I have Brees as my QB and he got 1 measly point...

I think the Patriots are the favorites this year but if the Colts play all season like they did this past Thurs I would take them to repeat this year.

[jason bourne]

You forgot one.. All time career interceptions. He only needs 4 more to receive that honor. :lol: :D



At the rate Grossman's going, Favre won't have to worry about that...

[sir_digalot]

but when you have been playing for like 400 years, you eventually will break all the records, or out live them :D

[LordBeer]

At the rate Grossman's going, Favre won't have to worry about that...

I'd be more worried about a certain Colts QB eating up all his records (minus the interception one) by the end of his career. :yaya:

Anyway, I hope everyone has a good time today watching their favorite teams play. Be safe and GO BEARS!!! :rockon:

**Cue Bears Fight Song

[FozzyBear]

My boys won, so I'm happy :thumbsup:

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

Sigh... another disappointing year ahead for the Giants.

[GorroXXII]

JimmytehHand8;229074']Sigh... another disappointing year ahead for the Giants.

YEP!!! Eli looked pretty good too, so did Burress... oh well

On the positive side, I think the Pats have filled all there holes, there D looks strong, and Can someone tell me who has a better wide receiver core in the NFL than the Pats? The Colts are good yes, but i think with the Pats additions, they are soo deep now!!! Brady has soo many targets it is nuts!!!

[Suhre]

, and Can someone tell me who has a better wide receiver core in the NFL than the Pats?

I am not gonna lie.. I was very happy to see lions receivers core this year.. they actually look somewhat decent this year

but then again it was against the raiders.. also looked good in the preseason but then again preseason doesn't mean anything

[-LiT- Killer_B]

****ing cheating ass patriots...Belicheck is a complete **** in my opinion. I have lost all respect I had for him as a coach, only for his statement that said it was his interpretation of the rules...uhhh dumbass the rules say specifically no camera equipment on the field. What is so hard to interpret about that for a self proclaimed genius? Would they have won that game anyway...of course the jets suck, but how much more of this has been going on and for how long. I'm not going to say that stuff is tainted for sure yet...but there is a chance I will when this is all said in done.
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[GorroXXII]

Oh brother, here we go... I bet all the other coaches that do it will stop now too, I am a bit upset about the whole thing, but it doesnt change my feelings about the team one bit... They have a really goo d team!

[Buckski]

With such a good and deep team -- there shouldn't be the need to cheat. Reminds me of BF (any version) -- get away with anything you can until caught then explain they were doing it too. Sound familiar.

[slacker_fse]

With such a good and deep team -- there shouldn't be the need to cheat. Reminds me of BF (any version) -- get away with anything you can until caught then explain they were doing it too. Sound familiar.
:lol:

Go Lions yes the Lions and Yes I know they haven't done sh** since Sanders left but it's my home town team.

[KAstickboy]

There were the Steelers i was looking for from 2 seaons ago. Woot! healthy team(specially Big Ben) and im rocking ready to go. Pretty stoked about Tomlin too... read up a lot about him, watched him coach during the pre-season... got a good vibe.

oh poor saints... As much as i hate the pats, yeah they have a nasty receiving crew now... big games coming out of them this year.:thumbsup:

[EdrrakNolat]

Go Pack!

[jason bourne]

Go Pack!

There we go, brother. :rockon:

[GorroXXII]

There we go, brother. :rockon:
:smack:

[Kegg]

There we go, brother. :rockon:

F' the packers, a bunch of cheese head want-a-bees. :flipoff:

GO BEARS!!!!! (even thou we are in last place in the division :wallbash:; only time will tell)

[brandonsjo]

Chargers are going to own...they got robbed by the colts last year in the playoffs...after beating them 41 to twenty something in regular season. LTAD

[-LiT- Killer_B]

Wrong team...Pats beat them in the playoffs after the chargers beat them 41 to twenty something in the regular season. Maybe if your douchebag safety wouldn't have tried to run back the interception in garbage time he wouldn't have fumbled it and gave it back to the pats...

[Monochrome]

whatdafux was up with that cinci-cleveland game Oo

the browns aren't supposed to put up 51 points on anyone...

[Ichi]

whatdafux was up with that cinci-cleveland game Oo

the browns aren't supposed to put up 51 points on anyone...

That game pissed me off more than anything else, and I am not a fan of either of those teams.
The Bears game was the second game of the double header, with the Colts Titans as the first game. That game ended early so we went into bonus coverage, yet they never switched at the kickoff and was forced to watch the Browns Bengals game until the end 30 minutes after kick off.


So to CBS :upyours:

[jason bourne]

F' the packers, a bunch of cheese head want-a-bees. :flipoff:

GO BEARS!!!!! (even thou we are in last place in the division :wallbash:; only time will tell)


2-0... and I'm no "want-a-be."


As for the Cinci-Cleveland game, I thought it was a pretty damn embarassing on Cinci's part (the defense at least). It was a great game, down to the end, but like blood said, the Browns don't score 51 points on anyone


And so how about Favre with that all-time wins record..

[FozzyBear]

Go COWBOYS!! :thumbsup:

[Monochrome]

Steelers win another!

(late in the day i know but i'm still celebrating :D )

[Caruso]

how about those noob patriots...........................

[(FR)DeadlyMarauder28]

Go COWBOYS!! :thumbsup:

Couldnt have said it better:thumbsup:

[sir_digalot]

our cbs was fine, i wonder if they do it differently down in the stix *L*

grossman still sucks.... benson, weeeelll the jury is still out on that one, and hester is starting to prove himself as long as he does not make any ridiculous n00b screw ups again, i say it is time to give orton another chance.....

[GorroXXII]

how about those noob patriots...........................

what about them??? they kicked the chargers ass, fair and square... next time LT should think before he opens his mouth... that is what I hate... cockyness... and I will say this once... yes the Pats got caught, so guess what every other team that has misinterpreted the rules... guess what? they stop too... just like steroids in baseball, we all damn well know, more than a few people did them, but now that it is out, and the big names were pulled out, all the others, probably or most likely stopped. The Patriots got there fine, end of discussion, I can bet, there are other coaches out there that do it, did it... will do it...

[brandonsjo]

ok yeah i am an idiot the pats did beat them...but they should of won that game

[-LiT- Killer_B]

You can't misinterpret no cameras on the field gorro...bellicheck is a **** and got caught. Especially since he's such a genius.

[LordBeer]

I feel no pity for the Pats coach. He's a cheater and the fine should of been bigger in my opinion. :thumbsdown:

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

For once I'm gonna side with Gorro and the Pats that I doubt that the Pats are/were the only ones who did this in the past. They're the only ones who've gotten caught. They've been fined ect. its time to move on.

[Caruso]

dude the only problem i have with the patriots is yeah there cheaters... We don't know if they have gotten footage on other teams and it really pissed me off because i mean honestly for pro football to come to this. Where teams have to cheat..... Seriously in my eyes that puts all 4 or 5 of there super bowl wins up in the air. I just wanna know how long they have been doing this.. and the noob patriots was a late post on the start of the cheating lawl..

[Monochrome]

dude the only problem i have with the patriots is yeah there cheaters... We don't know if they have gotten footage on other teams and it really pissed me off because i mean honestly for pro football to come to this. Where teams have to cheat..... Seriously in my eyes that puts all 4 or 5 of there super bowl wins up in the air. I just wanna know how long they have been doing this.. and the noob patriots was a late post on the start of the cheating lawl..

3, but i suppose it doesn't make much difference in your point.

I have to agree with Gorro and Jimmy, I'm sure they're not the only ones that have done this in the past and they just happened to have gotten caught. Hopefully this proves a lesson to the rest of the league and it won't happen again.

Aside: I thought it was kind of funny for the AFC North, Steelers > Browns > Bengals > Ravens, lol.

[sir_digalot]

they all cheat, just some are less skilled at hiding it, unfortunatly the bigger reasons for cheating are multi million dollar contracts, if you capped heavily or took all the financial incentives out of sport, they would be less inclined to cheat.

but when you are looking at tens of millions of dollars for looking good and being the fastest strongest etc, you want that extra edge, and if you are a team, then all the better you get more money for better players and more sponsorship... it all comes down to the almighty dollar....

[GorroXXII]

There games are in question caruso? Did you watch any of them, they were damn close that came down to a kick... so I guess Vinetari had a camera in his foot too huh? yeah that must be it... seriously the video gives them that much of an edge? BOY... cant wait for another team to get caught! And trust me it will happen... sooner or later... most likely later...

[GorroXXII]

You can't misinterpret no cameras on the field gorro...bellicheck is a **** and got caught. Especially since he's such a genius.

I was commenting on Bellicheck's comment, that is what he said, a misinterpretation... I love how Patriot haters are all over this... oh well...

[-LiT- Killer_B]

I was commenting on Bellicheck's comment, that is what he said, a misinterpretation... I love how Patriot haters are all over this... oh well...

I am not a patriot hater, and I was also commenting on Bellicheck's comment...what he said about misinterpretation and how the situation didn't bother me as much as his comments. That is all.

[CrockD]

I finally had to break down and find the NFL thread that I knew would be here.

I love this whole thing about cameragate/spygate/videogate/patriotgate...for the love of God can we settle on a name for this thing!!! I will certainly say that I am extremely disappointed with the Patriots for doing this. I was seriously ashamed of my own team, but I like Gorro will stick by my team even during bad times, because that's what good fans do. I am however appalled by the reaction of so many people around the league (but not all).

The Patriots deserved to be punished for their actions, however do you all remember what was being said when this story broke. At first they were talking about the Patriots losing draft picks late in next years draft, then they were talking about maybe the Patriots losing a 2nd round draft pick, suddenly people are saying suspend Belichick...some even said suspend him for half the season! Of course what ended up happening was that the Pats lost a 1st round draft pick, Belichick received the highest fine in history and the Pats lost 250,000. That may seem "light" to everyone outside New England, but that is the single biggest penalty to a team in the history of the NFL!

Another argument that makes me sick is the "this isn't fair because look what they did to Wade Phillips" argument. Wade Phillips committed a felony violation of the law!!! Don't tell me he needed HGH for a medical condition, he may well have, but the fact is his doctor didn't agree with him and he broke the law to get it. Bringing a camera in to film your opponent is wrong and breaks NFL rules, but it doesn't reach anywhere near the same level as committing a felony.

There's also the Steve Young argument (All superbowls are now tainted). This really grinds my gears too. The reason Steve Young gave was that this was a "long term systematic attempt to break the rules". They got caught ONCE! Now if the shoes on the other foot I am going to say I doubt this was a one time thing. I will not however assume it has been going on for 6 years straight. The Patriots have had plenty of employees come and go through Belichicks tenure as coach and many of them have been disgruntled. Not one of them until Mangini ever blew the whistle. Has it occurred to people that this is because this type of cheating was not a frequent occurence.

Also what about Belichicks first season with the Pats (5-11) and his third (9-7, missed playoffs) and his 6th (10-6, lost to Broncos in 2nd round). If it's such a huge help why did those seasons not turn out as successful. Finally, let's look at those superbowls. The first thing that I need to explain though is that the purpose of filiming signals is so that they can be analyzed at half time and relayed to the coordinators in order to make adjustments.

The first Superbowl they led at half time 14-3 and ultimately won it 20-17, getting outscored 6-14 in the 2nd half.

The second Superbowl they led 14-10 at halftime and won 32-29, being outscored 18-19 in the second half.

The third Superbowl they were tied 7-7 and went on to win 17-14, the only superbowl they outscored their opponents in the second half.

There's no major sign of an advantage there and that's because it's extremely unlikely they were cheating. They were at the Superbowl, how is anyone NOT going to notice a guy on the sideline with a camera!

Look, I am disappointed in my team for doing this and we deserve criticism without doubt. I will unapologetically say however that the punishment was fair. It was the biggest punishment to a team in NFL history and NFL history shows that teams have been trying to steal each others signals for years, this was simply the first time anyone tried using a video camera to do it. (That we know of)

Now no doubt the haters will come out and bash me for this post, so bash away!

Oh and remember: You can't spelling Little Whining Bastard without LT.

[-LiT- Killer_B]

I agree that punishment was fair, and don't agree with the wade phillips argument, superbowls aren't tainted...but bellicheck is in my opinion.

[(FR)DeadlyMarauder28]

Its Wade Wilson not Wade Phillips

Wade Wilson is the quarterbacks coach

Wade Philips is the head coach

[CrockD]

bah! I even looked it up to make sure I didn't confuse the two and I STILL did it...my bad.

[FozzyBear]

Go cowboys :woot:

[-LiT- Killer_B]

boys look good, as do the pats, colts, and pack. Nov. 4th...put it on the calendar...

[KAstickboy]

yeah buddy, Steelers are looking real good this year. Got to watch the game here in Charlotte on sunday(jesus its a miracle!)

New England is gonna be a tough game... looks like we have 4 good teams looking healthy and playing well. Should be a great season to watch football!

oh and GB is on fire too! Im happy for those Packers fans out there!!

[-LiT- Killer_B]

oops i forgot steelers...they look good also :)

[FozzyBear]

When is the Super Bowl this year?

EDIT: nvm. Google is a wonderful thing.

Feb. 3, 2008 in Arizona

[sir_digalot]

no more gorssman W000000000t w00000000000t yay, he has been sacked.... literally ( well okay as starting QB but i do not care...

it is celebration day no more grossman! yay yay yay, free drinks for everyone

[(FR)DeadlyMarauder28]

bah! I even looked it up to make sure I didn't confuse the two and I STILL did it...my bad.

np man everyone hates my boys i didnt want everybody thinking that they were heading back to the ways of the early 90's i.e. cocaine

[CrockD]

The bears truly just got better overnight.

They need someone who can move the chains a little bit and keep their defense off the field. And that's not a knock on their defense, it's simply stating the fact that they have been prone to get tired in the past and a good offense will eventually wear them down (as they would any defense) if they get the chance

[CrockD]

np man everyone hates my boys i didnt want everybody thinking that they were heading back to the ways of the early 90's i.e. cocaine

I'm actually very impressed by Tony Romo. He has shown an enormous amount of poise. I liked the way everytime he was close to getting sacked no matter how close it was he always kept his eyes upfield. He made a lot of very intelligent decisions last Sunday. The fumbled snap was way overblown last year and now people can see that.

I'm looking forward to the Boys matchup with the Patriots!

[jason bourne]

oh and GB is on fire too! Im happy for those Packers fans out there!!


I'm actually looking forward to next Sunday (unlike last season)... they're looking so good this year, the D is solid and Favre's on top of his game again and having a blast.

[CrockD]

np man everyone hates my boys i didnt want everybody thinking that they were heading back to the ways of the early 90's i.e. cocaine

If the Cowboys blow this game (I have them in my suicide pool) I WILL start hating them!

[brandonsjo]

wtf is up with the chargers?? I think the line partied to much in the off season. They arn't worth a &*%*&.

[sir_digalot]

Bears offiensive coordinator suck... i quit :(

[Monochrome]

Blah steelers lost to the cardinals. A couple mistakes was all it took, that and Polamalu getting hurt.

[-LiT- Killer_B]

The bears truly just got better overnight.

They need someone who can move the chains a little bit and keep their defense off the field. And that's not a knock on their defense, it's simply stating the fact that they have been prone to get tired in the past and a good offense will eventually wear them down (as they would any defense) if they get the chance

Hmmmm three int's for greise...how long until his head is called for as well?

[Ichi]

Hmmmm three int's for greise...how long until his head is called for as well?

Not for at least 3 weeks, then the call will be for Orton. They scored 27 points which is good, the Bears secondary is consisting of second and third stringers.



Go how many games are left before Norv gets canned in San Deigo?

[GorroXXII]

How about those Packers! They look pretty good this year, and there D looks alot better!!!

[FozzyBear]

Go Cowboys!

[GorroXXII]

Go Cowboys!:thumbsdown:

:deadhorse2: :twofinger:

[jason bourne]

Favre for MVP this season?


If he keeps it up and takes GB to the playoffs, its possible..

[(FR)DeadlyMarauder28]

I'm actually very impressed by Tony Romo. He has shown an enormous amount of poise. I liked the way everytime he was close to getting sacked no matter how close it was he always kept his eyes upfield. He made a lot of very intelligent decisions last Sunday. The fumbled snap was way overblown last year and now people can see that.

I'm looking forward to the Boys matchup with the Patriots!

2 weeks from now should be an excellent game to watch, looking at the schedule they should both be undefeated

[Smurf]

Go Cowboys!

Hey, I agree completely, GO COWBOYS!

Great to see Farve winning again, and I've enjoyed watching the Patriots romp their opponents. As I say that, I'm going back to watching that game.

[CrockD]

Well that was satisfying!

[LordBeer]

YEAH BABY!!! GO BEARS!!!

:party:

And the gravy was Urlacher got Favre the Interception record.

[Kegg]

YEAH BABY!!! GO BEARS!!!

:party:

And the gravy was Urlacher got Favre the Interception record.


HELLLLLLLLYAAAAAA!

[Ichi]

A much needed win and against green bay too. :thumbsup:

[LordBeer]

At Green Bay! :cheers:

and I'm being honest.. I totally knew they'd win.. Yeah, I wasnt worried at all about this game. :bs:

That was a nail bitter. I was on edge the whole 2nd half and really wasnt looking forward to this game. Makes it feel so much better. :woot:

[FozzyBear]

is it bad that I'm happy Green Bay lost???????

[[W33T] Canadian23]

is it bad that I'm happy Green Bay lost???????


nope go bears:woot:

[Ichi]

Yeah the first half was bad, and I am not talking about the game, but the telecast with Al Michaels and Madden. I knew it was going to be a Favre love fest but come on!

Also what the hell is up with all of the Romo stuff? "He is like an old Romo." What the hell is Favre being compared to Romo for? What has Romo accomplished?

[LordBeer]

I wont repeat what I told Kegg while listening to Madden... It was inappropriate but I really got tired of hearing him rag on the Da Bears.. (Untill the game was over) You Were WRONG FAT MAN!! All he did was rip on em the whole game. Come up more creative plays then "Give the ball to Favre". :smack: He's the QB! Of course he's gonna get the ball!!

[GorroXXII]

Also what the hell is up with all of the Romo stuff? "He is like an old Romo." What the hell is Favre being compared to Romo for? What has Romo accomplished?

I was thinking the exact same thing!!!

[FozzyBear]

Go Cowboys!

[EANeuspeed]

Wow, I can't believe that kicker pulled a 50 yarder twice. That deserved a round of applause. http://goldismoney.info/forums/images/smilies/clap2.gif

[GorroXXII]

CAn you say Dallas GOT lucky!!! Romo was Horrible!!!

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

I'm sick of hearing about people questioning Romo and his ability to play. He's not Rex... he had one bad night... so people need to STFU and wait until he has like 5 bad games in a row.

[GorroXXII]

I am sick of people comparing Romo to proven stars... he needs to prove himself first... when he has the ring then they can compare :P

[(FR)DeadlyMarauder28]

Couple of things

First 15 starts of each quarterback for career
Brady Romo
W/L 12 -3 11-4
Pass yds 3091 4149
TD/Int 21-12 29-18
Pass Rate 89.3 95.4

Not too bad for Romo, against arguably the best quarterback in the NFL in his first 15, even beats him in a couple categories with less talent around him

But we can all say not too bad for either considering Brady was a 6th round pick and Romo was undrafted

Im a Cowboys fan by the way, tried to be as unbiased as possible:)

[CrockD]

Not too bad for Romo, against arguably the best quarterback in the NFL in his first 15, even beats him in a couple categories with less talent around him



Take a look at the 2001 Patriots roster and tell me Romo had less talent.

I'm not disputing your claim that Romo has been very good, he has. But before we anoint him the next Brady, or the next Favre, let's wait for him to win a playoff game.

Edit: Oh and one more stat for you. Here's Brady and Romo vs Dan Marino

Brady Romo Marino
W/L 12 -3 11-4 11-4
Pass yds 3091 4149 3308
TD/Int 21-12 29-18 32-9
Pass Rate 89.3 95.4 N/A

Romo's start has been great, but Dan the man was insane. Not to mention in his second season he tossed 48 TDs!

Edit2: Dear CrockD, please actually READ other posters comments before posting! :)

Originally read your comment as saying that Romo was the arguably the best in his first 15, then reread it and realized you were actually saying Brady was. My bad. I would still contend that Marino had the greatest start to a career ever.

[-LiT- Killer_B]

Guess what until Romo wins a championship he aint shit...just like they said of manning until he finally won. Always compared manning with those guys, but couldn't put him up there b/c of no ring. Well guess what manning will be better than romo, brady, and marino when he is done. I mean honestly Romo hasn't even had a full season, quit acting like he is the shit. Brady is MUUUUUCH better and closer to perfection than romo will ever be.

[FozzyBear]

We are just happy we have a decent QB again. :cheers::cheers: Let us have our joys. :)

Sunday will be a big challenge, should be a good test for the whole team. Not just the QB.

[Ichi]

I don't think anyone is knocking on you or even Romo, its the media that is creating this guy as if he is the greatest QB to walk onto the field. IMHO he is going to be the next Kurt Warner, a big flash in the pan. In a couple of years he will be bounced out of Dallas and fighting for a job on some crappy team.

[EANeuspeed]

Brady is MUUUUUCH better and closer to perfection than romo will ever be.

I would have to agree with you on this one. Brady makes football look so easy. I would say he's a great QB.

[GorroXXII]

:rockon:

ON A SIDE NOTE... why does Drayu choose to get married when the Pats play Dallas, I mean WTF was he thinking... hmmm... wedding... football... wedding... football... THEY BETTER HAVE TV's there Damn it:smack:

and me without DVR or tivo... again damn it

:cheers:

[sir_digalot]

godammit cocks*ckers! oh well still early in the season...

[Ichi]

godammit cocks*ckers! oh well still early in the season...

Nah...it's over Green Bay has pretty much locked up the division and we don't stand a chance for a wild card.

[EANeuspeed]

My BOYS won! GO PATRIOTS!!!

[-LiT- Killer_B]

Wow...pretty sure that the pats are going undefeated...all I can say is WOW

[FozzyBear]

Go Cowboys..... At least they played better than last week.

[redish16]

Dallas who?

[LordBeer]

Nah...it's over Green Bay has pretty much locked up the division and we don't stand a chance for a wild card.

Thats Kegg talk! I wont hear any of it. :mgdrillsergeant: It does suck the bears lost yesterday but that was pretty intense at the end. I cant believe the D let that dude just march all over the field! He got over 300 rushing yards that game, right? That part pisses me off. Oh well...

[Wibby]

I have to say that I really enjoyed the Vikings/Bears game yesterday. Especially the end, of course I almost changed the channel after the two Bears touchdowns in the last like 3 minutes of play.

[Grim_Scythe]

Wow at the raiders....Culpepper smacked the ball out of his own hands and Chargers take it....too bad Raiders get blessed by a flag.....that happened like a few more times later. But what's sad was that Raiders were 1 yard away from TD..... 1 yard.....and they didn't push.....amazing.

[EANeuspeed]

I think this interview with Owens from Sunday's game was hilarious. May need to turn the volumn to hear everything he is saying.

Its funny how he say, " Next question". He says is really funny at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83_u0ZpBHbg

[jason bourne]

Nah...it's over Green Bay has pretty much locked up the division and we don't stand a chance for a wild card.

f*ckin yeah we have... here's a :gfight: to you bears fans


:woot:

[sir_digalot]

pride comes before a nasty injury to favre involving voodoo dolls and live chickens that will make him retire before the packers can get too far ahead...

well thats what i am planning anyway, i have an adrian peterson dolll lined up too :D

[LordBeer]

Another Bears win!! That final drive was freaking amazing!! 97yrds, less then 2mins left, and NO time outs left! Nice Job Griese! You Da Man! If another certain Bears QB were in the game at that point (Grossman)... I probably would of turned off the game.

Hmm.. I have an idea for a Halloween display. A dummy of Rex hanging from a tree in the front yard. Better yet, I'll tie a baseball bat to it's leg so everyone who stops by can beat him. A Rex Grossman Pinata? Hmmmm. If you beak him open, it'll be filled with pictures of him on the bench. :D

[Rajun Cajun]

Another Bears win!! That final drive was freaking amazing!! 97yrds, less then 2mins left, and NO time outs left! Nice Job Griese! You Da Man! If another certain Bears QB were in the game at that point (Grossman)... I probably would of turned off the game.

Hmm.. I have an idea for a Halloween display. A dummy of Rex hanging from a tree in the front yard. Better yet, I'll tie a baseball bat to it's leg so everyone who stops by can beat him. A Rex Grossman Pinata? Hmmmm. If you beak him open, it'll be filled with pictures of him on the bench. :D

and his helmet radio wasn't working for that entire drive!!

[FozzyBear]

Go cowboys!

[CrockD]

I have to say I'm pretty impressed by the restraint the Pats fans have shown in this thread. I'm still convinced this is all a dream that I'll wake up from in Week 9....and I might be right about that.

For all the offensive dominance our team has shown our defense has proven that it can quit on games. If we get involved in a shootout against Indy it could be a long day. I wonder what the over/under on that game will be..i'm guessing 3 billion. :)

[sir_digalot]

YAY! for broken helmet radio!

[Buckski]

It is showdown time--Colts Vs. Pats with an over/under of 56 and Indy the underdog at home (Range +4 to 6.5). The Colts are looking good since playing better opponents but the Pats are putting up huge numbers versus mediocre teams. I'll go with the Home Team (also local for me) COLTS!!!!

[CrockD]

Is this not one of the biggest regular season matchups in history! And I can't believe it's not a Monday night game!!! All Indy v New England games have been a Monday or Sunday night game for the last couple of years and after last years incredible AFC Championship game you would have thought that this years regular season game would be a nationally televised night game.

[CrockD]

I am still in shock....how did we pull that off? What a game!

[sir_digalot]

best bears game all season this week..... ;)

[FozzyBear]

Go Cowboys!!

[GorroXXII]

I am still in shock....how did we pull that off? What a game!

By far the best game of the year! The Patriots proved they are no joke!

[-LiT- Killer_B]

By far the best game of the year! The Patriots proved they are no joke!

I don't think anyone thought that they were a joke...Colts were two plays away from winning that game. Hell of a game and we'll see you in January at the Fox.

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

Meh... this game doesn't really matter. They're so far ahead that the only ones that do matter are the playoff games. I just hope the Giants can pull a big upset against the Patriots the last game of the season.

[brandonsjo]

UHH anybody see adrian peterson?? That dude is fawking awesome even being on a crappy team he can make plays. 296 yds rushing in rookie season and leading NFL in rushing in total yards. Just broke alltime game rushing record in the mid of his first season and is already over a 100 yards. This dude definetly gets my MVP award. APAD

[CrockD]

JimmytehHand8;238260']Meh... this game doesn't really matter. They're so far ahead that the only ones that do matter are the playoff games. I just hope the Giants can pull a big upset against the Patriots the last game of the season.

The game certainly did matter to the Pats. I have absolutely no desire to see us go back to the RCA dome. That may be the hardest place to play a game in the NFL. I'll take a cold snowy night in Foxboro over the RCA dome.

And in a reconcilatory note, I have to say that Tony Dungy and the Colts really are a class act. They're the first team to play us all year that hasn't had anything negative to say. What were the Bucs thinking when they let him go.

As for Peterson, yeah that was a simply stunning performance, not just the number of yards but the fierceness with which he runs on every play. As for MVP, err there is this guy called Brady who is on pace to shatter the single season TD pass record and the passer rating record.

Other NFL notes:

Wow did the Cowboys look good last night. Romo continues to impress me with his decision making skills.

Also, could you people in Green Bay tell me what the hell you put in the water over there! I get tired of hearing people tell a football player when they should retire. This whole season has been a big middle finger to those pundits from Brett Favre. "I ain't done yet beyaaatch!"

What a revival for New Orleans. Keep it up boys, i'm thinking of picking you in my suicide pool this week.

[Kegg]

Oakland is going to kick it to Hester...we'll see how this turns out.

Go :cheers:Beeaaaarrrrrss :mgcrackup:

[Rajun Cajun]

F'N Saints :wtf:

Beat a good Jax team last week, but can't beat the 0 - 8 Rams.

[CrockD]

F'N Saints :wtf:

Beat a good Jax team last week, but can't beat the 0 - 8 Rams.

Allow me to be the first to say FU Saints! I got eliminated from my suicide pool thanks to that shocking loss!

[Kegg]

Oakland is going to kick it to Hester...we'll see how this turns out.

Go :cheers:Beeaaaarrrrrss :mgcrackup:

Holy Crap, the Bears won...with Rex. But only time will tell, how bad/good things will play out! oh and Hester tried too hard to break one, I have to give it up to Oakland for having the balls to kick to Hester and being good enough to cover him.

[FozzyBear]

Go Cowboys!

[jason bourne]

GB 34
Min 0


:woot:

[Grim_Scythe]

omg.....San Diego beat the Colts.....

[EANeuspeed]

omg.....San Diego beat the Colts.....

:woot::woot::woot:

That was an awesome game! Im glad SD won. It was intense.

[Grim_Scythe]

Yeah....a failed 29 yd field goal...that was just dumb random

[CrockD]

Yeah....a failed 29 yd field goal...that was just dumb random

By Vinatieri no less!

[atomicbob]

San Diego kicks azz!!

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

San Diego is a lucky team. I don't expect to see them going far in the playoffs.

[redish16]

But they can win the AFC West because everyone else in their division is amphibian shit.

[brandonsjo]

San Diego is awesome....i just dont understand how they lose to the vikings and get ran on like some unranked college team then come back the next week and beat the superbowl champs

[-LiT- Killer_B]

The superbowl champs minus about 10 starters...and you still should have lost the game...don't be too proud of them. Also Norv is your coach...he sucks!

[GorroXXII]

I still can't believe Vinitari missed that field goal... Anyway as for SD, they are a hot cold team... Rivers isnt playing like he did last year, they are quarreling on the bench, I'll be shocked if they make it into the playoffs, and I agree with Killer, the Colts are missing some key players, and they just signed I think Rice to help out!

[CrockD]

Losing Freeney was a huge loss for the Colts. Rice should be able to fill in adequately, but his age is an issue. The Chargers are a very talented team but they are learning the hard way that changing your coaching staff can be very painful. They'll make the playoffs because their division sucks, but they're not going to find consistency so long as Norv is their coach.

I also agree that the Colts lack of personnel and Manning's shockingly bad play led to their demise last Sunday. The Chargers D did look pretty good though. The Colts are in a bind, but they'll come back strong, don't count them out yet.

[Grim_Scythe]

I still can't believe Vinitari missed that field goal...

You ain't the only one dude. Hell i thought GG colts win by 1.....then....I was like wtf omgrofflestomp....

Yeah I had predicted that colts woudl lolrofflestomp the chargers....how wrong was I...

[atomicbob]

Your search - lolrofflestomp - did not match any documents.

[brandonsjo]

The superbowl champs minus about 10 starters...and you still should have lost the game...don't be too proud of them. Also Norv is your coach...he sucks!

I dont know if you done yoru homework ...but back when 92-93 he was off. coord. for teh dallas cowboys and helped lead them to back to back superbowl rings. He is not that bad of a coach he just has been stuck with crappy teams....Oakland, miami, Washington...lol when is that last time you have ever seen any of them getting anywhere close to superbowl??

[-LiT- Killer_B]

No doubt he was instrumental in those championships, but he has ALWAYS been a good offensive coordinator, I don't think anyone here will dispute that. He just can't lead a team...thats all.

[brandonsjo]

Either way i dont know what is wrong with the chargers but they are STILL one of the best teams in the NFL...proved it by beating the colts even if it was by a little luck..

[-LiT- Killer_B]

Proved yesterday that they are not that good :)

[EANeuspeed]

Poor Bills. They took a beaten.

[FozzyBear]

Go Cowboys!

[CrockD]

Poor Bills. They took a beaten.

I almost felt bad. Then I remembered that the rest of the world hates us. I think the Patriots are the first team in the history of the league to run up the score in the second quarter.

I'll be at the Eagles game in Foxboro next Sunday night. Can't wait.

[-LiT- Killer_B]

Of course I hate the patriots, but I am not naive enough to think that they aren't the best team ever at this point. I still think the colts, when healthy, could beat them...but its amazing to me that their defense is the weakest link these days...which was always the other way around. Not to say they have a bad defense, its still pretty damn good, its just that their offense is absolutely unreal. 16-0 is almost a certainty in my opinion.

[CrockD]

Just for kicks, here's a "if the playoffs started today scenario":

AFC:

Bye Teams:
New England
Indianapolis

Wild Card:
Cleveland @ Pittsburgh
(Cleveland plays NE if they win, Pittsburgh plays Indy if they win)

Jacksonville @ San Diego
(If Pitt wins winner will play NE, otherwise Indy)

NFC:

Bye Teams:
Dallas
Green Bay

Wild Card:
Detroit @ Seattle
(Detroit plays Dallas if they win, Seattle plays GB if they win)

NY Giants @ Tampa Bay
(If Seattle wins winner will play Dallas, otherwise GB)

Phew! That was more difficult than I thought. (I'm sure their must be a website for this sort of thing).

[sir_digalot]

but seriously, all the nfl teams will come down with botulism, and the bears will win by default, although unfortunatly, rex grossman is also overcome and perishes too.... ;)

[FozzyBear]

but seriously, all the nfl teams will come down with botulism, and the bears will win by default, although unfortunatly, rex grossman is also overcome and perishes too.... ;)


:smack: This isn't the wish thread.... You meant to post here http://www.warishellgaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18857



LOL


:bolt:

[Phyxius]

Go COWBOYS!!!!!!!!! W00T!!!!

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=5420411

[travisb057811]

Bucs All the way

[FozzyBear]

Go Cowboys!

btw Phyx, funny commercial :)

We better play better than that for next week though........

[EANeuspeed]

How about them Patriots.:D

[kilroy0097]

Next year we need someone to start a NCAAF thread. I much rather watch College ball than Pro. IMO.

[Persephone]

New England Patriots ftw.

[CrockD]

Got back from the game last night at 2:50am. I am exhausted today. Wow that was close, what a great Eagles team and great game plan. Who would have ever thought A.J. Feely would look so good, and that onside kicks, talk about a gutsy decision.

Now it's time for me to sleep while I stare at my computer and try to make it look like i'm working.

[FozzyBear]

Go Cowboys!





it really is a shame Favre got hurt early and didn't play the second half..... *Salute* much respect to the man.

Cowboys 37 Packers 27

[LordBeer]

Go Cowboys!





it really is a shame Favre got hurt early and didn't play the second half..... *Salute* much respect to the man.

Cowboys 37 Packers 27

Favre got hurt? What's wrong with him?

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

His left arm got smashed by a near sack.

[CrockD]

also seperated his right shoulder.

[LordBeer]

Well, I really do respect Favre. I hate him, but I do have a lot of respect for the guy. (A girl I dated was a packer fan and did nothing but talk about him for a month.. :jerkit: )

However, I still REALLY hate Green Bay. Now Im used to my favorite sports teams sucking ass like a cheap hooker. Although if the Bears beat Green Bay 2x in a season, It's a successful season. Wouldnt feel complete if the packers were missing their main man. Dont get me wrong though, I'd still be happy with the win.

[sir_digalot]

the bears would have an excellent season this year if...

they beat Greenbay a second time
they beat the patriots once destroying their "clean" record

as for superbowl and playoffs i do not care if the above cirteria are met?

[jason bourne]

What pissed me off the most was the f*cking NFL Network getting to air the game.

But oh well, we're still 10-2, and Favre'll be back for next week.

[Lord ALF]

irony is the fact the i'm a die hard Bears fan...

my second fav team... Green Bay. i love the old school teams.

-alf

[CrockD]

If we lose to Kyle Boller I swear to God I am going to puke.

Even if the Pats win, this is what it's going to be like the rest of the season..every team no matter how 'bad' is going to bring their best against the Patriots.

I admit it....i'm sweating up here on a cold New England night.

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

Honestly the Pats don't deserve this win at all. There have been so many bullshit calls in the last minute and a half that I'm honestly beginning to wonder if Bell e Chick is paying off the officials.

Honestly I'm tired of the bullshit calls in Patriots games. Anyone else remember the Pats/Steelers game when they added a whole minute to the clock that gave the Pats enough time to win? Seriously. This crap gets old. They need to start overturning games based on bad calls.

Edit: This is the incident I'm talking about. The Pats should have lost that game but a "mysterious clock" error added a minute.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/27/sports/football/27nfl.html

Or how about this one?

http://www.provencehome.org/refsuck/pages/annualawards.html

Who can remember the memorable call that cost the Raiders in the playoffs?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2002/playoffs/news/2002/01/19/raiders_patriots_ap/

I'm tired of listening to about how "great" the Patriots every week despite the fact that their schedual is cakewalk. Also, Pats fans for some reason think that they are the best team in the world ever every season. So freakin annoying. Mabey thats why I hate the Patriots now. Mabey thats why I feel the need to type out this rant. It doesn't help that Bilicheck is the most arrogant jerk ever to coach football.

[CrockD]

JimmytehHand8;242823']Honestly the Pats don't deserve this win at all. There have been so many bullshit calls in the last minute and a half that I'm honestly beginning to wonder if Bell e Chick is paying off the officials.

Honestly I'm tired of the bullshit calls in Patriots games. Anyone else remember last year when they added a whole minute to the clock that gave the Pats enough time to win? Seriously. This crap gets old. They need to start overturning games based on bad calls.

Normally I would give you a chunk of cheese for your w(h)ine, but after that comment i'll give you a whole truck load.

Remember the Indy game? You know, the one where the Patriots had 100+ more penalty yards than the Colts? Not to mention that the pass at the end of the game almost won them the game despite Derrick Mason having one of the most obscene offensive pass interferences in history.

To Ravens fan: You guys played lights out, I really thought it was over, I was in complete despair. What a tremendously played game. You guys get a better offensive play calling scheme and a better QB and you'll be right back near the top. Your defense was lights out, McGahee has always been awesome and Mason and Heap (when he's healthy) are enough to provide a good offensive spark.

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

Edit: Actually I honestly don't care.

Plain and simple the Ravens should have won.

"Without an ill-timed timeout, the Ravens would have been in position to run out the clock on the Patriots tonight. They stuffed Tom Brady on fourth down, only to learn the play did not count."

There needs to be a rule about this. If the play is played out regardless of whether a time out was "supposedly" called it should count. No "redos." It would fix the whole "we called a timeout before the kick so it doesn't count" crap too.

[CrockD]

Typed up my comment before Jimmy's later edits.

Tuck rule: That was the rule...sorry the refs enforced the ACTUAL rule.

Extra Clock: Yes with 15 minutes to go in the game (that's an entire quarter folks) and the Steeler up by 3 the pats got an extra 52 seconds...and this was during week 3 of the season...such a pivotal game. To quote Bill Cowher ""It really didn't affect the outcome"

Refs Suck Rule: Great source by the way:jerkit: Not being able to see the play I can't make a judgement on it. The source just says the Pats were leading and doesn't say where the Jags were on the field. Even if they had won, we would have been 11-5 instead of 12-4 and still would have played Jets in the 1st round.

Sounds like someone's bought into all the "Hate the Pats" hype. I don't care that my coach doesn't care to wear a suit to the game, or care to give long press conferences. This is the NFL, not a highschool debate team. I was embarrased by the spygate stuff, but our routine ass-kicking of much of our opposition I think proves we know how to play football.

I'm more than happy to give other teams there due no matter what i think of them if and when they beat us. See my congratulatory comments to Killer B for his Colts beating us in the AFC championship game and then my further comments after the Colts won the superbowl (oh and I was actually routing for the Colts in that game because I wanted to see the best team win). I get annoyed by people who spend their time hating teams instead of giving them their due or keeping their mouths shut. But it's a free country, feel free to hate away. In the meantime i'll be happy to heap praise on the Eagles and Ravens who both played terrific games when no one thought they had a chance.

Edit: Thanks for adding an edit there Jimmy without mentioning it. Oh the "supposed" time-out, you mean the one the RAVENS defensive coordinator actually called..you know..the one where you can go look at on sportscenter right now and see that they called it and see that the ref whistled it BEFORE the ball was snapped?

[EANeuspeed]

How about them Patriots. :woot:Good game.

[Rajun Cajun]

JimmytehHand8;242841']

There needs to be a rule about this. If the play is played out regardless of whether a time out was "supposedly" called it should count. No "redos." It would fix the whole "we called a timeout before the kick so it doesn't count" crap too.

The rule is this...

The guys in the booth went over the NFL rule for calling a TO and it states only a player or head coach can call a TO....Rex Ryans (BAL D coordinator) called the TO. So, the TO should not have been allowed.

I would imagine managing that is not the easiest thing to do. Is it the ref's job...yep.

[Tigiot]

Haven't read this thread but saw it and have been thinking about how I usually watch the first few games of a season (dedicated) to see if the 49ers are going to suck for the season. If they seem like it, I just watch games out of convenience for me.

This year I really thought they were going to be better... Smith needs to learn to NOT get sacked, hell hit the lineman in the side of the head.

[CrockD]

Haven't read this thread but saw it and have been thinking about how I usually watch the first few games of a season (dedicated) to see if the 49ers are going to suck for the season. If they seem like it, I just watch games out of convenience for me.

This year I really thought they were going to be better... Smith needs to learn to NOT get sacked, hell hit the lineman in the side of the head.

Thanks for that top 5 draft pick you'll be giving us. :ban_dance01:

[Tigiot]

Thanks for that top 5 draft pick you'll be giving us. :ban_dance01:

Bah, DIAF

[CrockD]

Bah, DIAF

Okay...I deserved that.:)

[CrockD]

I'm off to Foxoboro. Here's to hoping the Pats pull out a win.:cheers:

I'm sure Prowler feels differently :)

Here's something I can guarantee about this game....I will drink lots of beer!

[redish16]

I don't see how Phil Simms can broadcast a game with Tom Brady's cock firmly lodged in his mouth.

[Rajun Cajun]

I don't see how Phil Simms can broadcast a game with Tom Brady's cock firmly lodged in his mouth.

Seriously, kind of like Madden with Favre huh?

[Tigiot]

Here's to hoping Crock contracts HIV:asshat:

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

Lol thats a little harsh...

[Tigiot]

JimmytehHand8;243804']Lol thats a little harsh...

Where's the fun in being "nice"?

[Grim_Scythe]

Wow I was amazed the chargers made such a comeback ....lol

[travisb057811]

Bucs may have lost but they are one of the best teams defintley better than the seahawks and can beat the cowboys.

[FozzyBear]

Go Cowboys!















barely :bolt:

[CrockD]

Here's to hoping Crock contracts HIV:asshat:

Only if I get it from that #2 overall draft pick you're going to be giving us at the end of the season. :) :twofinger:

[Tigiot]

When will the 49ers get back into that glory that they used to have?...cheap asses

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

Only if I get it from that #2 overall draft pick you're going to be giving us at the end of the season. :) :twofinger:

I hope that pick turns out to be a flop :twofinger:

[[W33T] Canadian23]

green bay is looking good these days and also have the best WR core when it comes to yards after rec better than the pats who are 2nd.

[CrockD]

Go Cowboys!


barely :bolt:

A wins a win, and besides, I think that win says a lot about the Cowboys and specifically about Tony Romo. Like other people I am very tired of all the accolades that were put on Romo before he started playing well. Now however he is proving he deserves those accolades more and more. Sunday's game was a gritty performance and he's proven that not only can he get big numbers, but he has the ability to be clutch when it's needed.

[jason bourne]

Canadian23;243847']green bay is looking good these days and also have the best WR core when it comes to yards after rec better than the pats who are 2nd.

:woot:


Not to mention a better quarterback hahaha :flipoff:

[brandonsjo]

Chargers are going to come from nowhere and win the superbowl.

[CrockD]

Chargers are going to come from nowhere and win the superbowl.

Two words:

Norv Turner.

Sorry bro :)

[Grim_Scythe]

Chargers are going to come from nowhere and win the superbowl.


That would omgrofflecopter

[Tigiot]

That would omgrofflecopter

omgrofflecopter would be if next year Miami went undefeated and HUMILIATED the Patriots (I'd rather the Niners do that though ;))

[brandonsjo]

miami is going to upset new england next week

[APOC]

See after the last 2 niner games, I have to wonder...WHY THE HELL WASNT THIS GUY STARTING OVER DILFER?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

APOC

[Kegg]

miami is going to upset new england next week

That would be the funniest thing to see. the sad thing it would be the first time Miami beat a possible 16-0 team.

[LordBeer]

Miami is good at breaking teams perfect seasons. :yaya:

[CrockD]

If Miami beats New England next week I will make a $200 donation to WiH.

Won't be going to today's game however. :( My Dad and I tried to drive there and watched the car in front of us crash into the guard rail. At that point we decided it wasn't worth it.

[EANeuspeed]

If Miami beats New England next week I will make a $200 donation to WiH.
.



That would be the BIGGEST win for MIAMI. Maybe in history. Taking out the #1 rated team.

Snake will be crossing his fingers for Miami to win.

[EANeuspeed]

I knew Dallas was going to lose. Romo gave away too many easy catches.

Sorry Fozzy your boys didnt win.

Go Patriots!

[FozzyBear]

eh still Go Cowboys!

Just wish it wasn't to the eagles :) :bolt:

[[W33T] Canadian23]

the packers are still looking good and frave another record to boot

[jason bourne]

Canadian23;245009']the packers are still looking good and frave another record to boot

we've got a shot at home field advantage now too :woot:

[Phyxius]

eh still Go Cowboys!

Just wish it wasn't to the eagles :) :bolt:

Yeah Foz.... but you dont live in Central Pennsylvania.... I had to hear about that game ALL DAY!!!

GO COWBOYS!!!!!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/30/62927250_915bad37b8_m.jpg

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

I'm actually kinda hoping the Giants don't go to the playoffs so Coughlin gets fired. It'll be better for the team in the long run if he goes.

[Kegg]

Are there any QB out there? that the Bears can beg barrow or steal, three are needed!

The worst think about a losing season, is I will not be able to see a Televised game, because they will be none broadcasted! need more BEER :cheers:

[APOC]

Are there any QB out there? that the Bears can beg barrow or steal, three are needed!
:cheers:

The bears should contact the niners pretty sure they would probably just give you guys dilfer. Hell I would rather have the bad rex grossman than dilfer(atleast the bad rex has a decent game every so often).

APOC

[brandonsjo]

Ravens should of beat the Pats. Miami barely got by the pats..Im going on a limb and going to say pats are going to lose to MIAMI!!! It would make my day if this happened.

EDIT: Miami barely beat Ravens!!

[CrockD]

Ravens should of beat the Pats. Miami barely got by the pats..Im going on a limb and going to say pats are going to lose to MIAMI!!! It would make my day if this happened.

Hater!!!!

As we all know...I have $200 that says they won't.

I think almost ALL of WiH is routing against me.:)

Except Neuspeed and Gorro.

[brandonsjo]

yeah i am sure they will get stomped but i can always hope. The Pats are just unbelievably good and it pisses me off they win so much.

[CrockD]

Actually I admit I am scared about the rest of the season. Every single game the Pats have been looking a little more tired and worn down. Colts fans can testify to how much the pressure of trying to go undefeated can put on a team. I know they're not going to rest their starters so they can go for the record and that's what I want them to do. Heck, I think anybody would want their team to try for an undefeated season simply because of what it would mean, but it would be awful (for us) if we lost in the first round of the playoffs because the team was exhausted.

Right now the one good thing is that Richard Seymour is finally starting to play at the level he's capable of. We're going to need the defense to step up in the playoffs.

[APOC]

You guys do get a first round bye so there is the week of rest they will need.

APOC

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

Actually I admit I am scared about the rest of the season. Every single game the Pats have been looking a little more tired and worn down. Colts fans can testify to how much the pressure of trying to go undefeated can put on a team. I know they're not going to rest their starters so they can go for the record and that's what I want them to do. Heck, I think anybody would want their team to try for an undefeated season simply because of what it would mean, but it would be awful (for us) if we lost in the first round of the playoffs because the team was exhausted.

Right now the one good thing is that Richard Seymour is finally starting to play at the level he's capable of. We're going to need the defense to step up in the playoffs.

Actually I think Belichick's strategy of putting his starters in every game is gonna hurt the Patriots during the playoffs. They're gonna be tired by the time the playoffs rolls around. The Colts on the other hand have had time to recover from injuries and are looking ready for the playoffs.

[CrockD]

JimmytehHand8;245537']Actually I think Belichick's strategy of putting his starters in every game is gonna hurt the Patriots during the playoffs. They're gonna be tired by the time the playoffs rolls around. The Colts on the other hand have had time to recover from injuries and are looking ready for the playoffs.

I won't disagree with that. I still think when you have a chance at this sort of history you try for it no matter what. But the 2005 Colts were taken out in the first round even though they had a bye.

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

Bye weeks make you lazy :P

[LordBeer]

Nice Job Bears!! I forgive your record this season cause you swept Green Bay! Urlacher got a TD! Favre looked liked Grossman out there today. Go Bears!! :woot:

[Tigiot]

I was hoping for a Miami win :D :(

[FozzyBear]

Go Cowboys!!!!!


And I got to give a Go Bears!!! too. :)

[EANeuspeed]

Wow I was shocked Chicago won.

[LordBeer]

Wow I was shocked Chicago won.
They didnt just win, they crushed em! Special Teams and the D both scored TDs! :rockon: I could understand a team from a warmer climate doing poorly today but Green Bay is WAY up north. No Excuse! I dunno what happened to GB today but.. I dont care.. Go Bears!!!

[CrockD]

Good lord the Giants came to play. I knew they would, but Manning is playing out of his mind.

[FozzyBear]

Go Giants!

[CrockD]

Go Giants!

Spoken in unison by everyone south of Connecticut I'm sure. I'm seriously worried here, but i'll say this, if the Giants win I will feel very bad for the first team the Patriots play in the playoffs.

[LordBeer]

It'd be a lot more bitter if they do get to the superbowl and loose it. :bolt:
That was a nice game tonight though.

[FozzyBear]

Oh well.... it was a nice game. I'm glad NY came out and played, even though the game really didn't matter.

:woot:




PATS vs COWBOYS for the superbowl will have a different ending.....:bolt:


:)

[kilroy0097]

Patriots, Undefeated 16-0 season taking the achievement from the Dolphins 1972. Then you have Brady passing up Manning's 2004 record of 50 TD passes in one season. You got Moss passing up Rice's 1987 TD catches in one season. And last but not least the Patriots closed the regular season with 589 points unseating the 556 points set by the 1998 Minnesota Vikings.

All that's only going to get better if they win the Superbowl. Man it's going to be hard to choose a side on this one but I think I will say Pats over Cowboys.

Unfortunately the Aggies lost to Penn. We could have won it too. Very poor coaching plays in the 4th quarter. Everyone knew Lane should have been put in and banged his way into the end zone. Then McGee screwing up... we deserved to lose that game. Played like ass 2nd quarter on ward. Disappointing.

[Phyxius]

The 72 Dolphins won the superbowl to be 17-0.. there are more games now because there are more teams.
If (or should I say - WHEN) the Pats dont win the Superbowl, there 16-0 season will be moot.


their division... 6 games with teams that together only won 11 games and none with a winning record.

If Dallas only had it that easy.

and we wont mention the whole cheating thing...

W00T.. Penn State Nittany Lions!!!!!

[jason bourne]

PATS vs PACKERS for the superbowl will have a different ending.....:bolt:



fixed.

[CrockD]

The 72 Dolphins won the superbowl to be 17-0.. there are more games now because there are more teams.
If (or should I say - WHEN) the Pats dont win the Superbowl, there 16-0 season will be moot.


their division... 6 games with teams that together only won 11 games and none with a winning record.

If Dallas only had it that easy.

and we wont mention the whole cheating thing...

W00T.. Penn State Nittany Lions!!!!!

Sounds like someone needs a little lesson in calculating strength of schedule.

First of all you have to calculate OUT a teams wins and losses against its own schedule. Being good or being bad should not affect how good your opponent is, so when you add up the collective wins and losses of your opponent you need to remove your victories against them and your losses to them. This is exactly how the NFL calculates strength of schedule. As of 1pm today it goes like this:

The Cowboys opponents record is 107 - 104 for a winning percentage of 50.71%

The Patriots opponents record is 112 - 113 for a winning percentage of 49.78%

Wow that's an enormous difference right there. Less than one whole percent. Given that the annual NFL strength of schedule can vary by over 10% that 1% is fairly meaningless. However if the Cowboys would like to trade any of their games for games against the Colts, Steelers or Chargers I'd be happy to trade. And of course lets not forget how well the Cowboys played against the Patriots...oh wait, that's right, you got your ass beaten like a red-headed stepchild AT HOME against the Patriots.

I'd be more congenial about all this, but given how complimentary I have been about Romo all season and how impressed I've been with the Cowboys as soon as a Cowboys fan is going to start screaming blood murder over strength of schedule I am obligated as a Pats fan to remind them of the facts. I still think Romo is a tremendous quarterback and will be for a long time and I think he'll be going to the Hall of Fame one day.

As for the 72 Dolphins I'll agree there. Nothing the Patriots can do, even 19-0 will EVER take away from what they accomplished. The most we can do is join them at the top of the mountain, not replace them. It's not their fault they didn't play a 16 game schedule. I'll say nothing bad about them at all, in fact I think Mercury Morris's attitude towards the Patriots is hilarious. I say good for him, he's earned the right to be as cocky as he wants.

As for the cheating thing, well actually you did just mention it and we've been over that plenty of times. We got caught in week 1, we got the stiffest penalty in NFL history and since then we've had eyes all over us looking for cheating. If that wasn't enough perhaps our NFL record 315 point differential should change some minds. No? Okay how about out 19th consecutive regular season victory? No? Okay well then how about beating the world champion Colts in a game we were flagged for a franchise record 150 yards? No? Well then I will send you a badge in the mail that says "Hater" and you can wear it with pride when you should be spending your time being proud of your own teams accomplishments. (Romo's incredible season, Phillips getting TO to be a team player, a defense that's had injuries and continued to pound the opposition, Jason Whitten finally getting recognition for being one of the best tight-ends in the NFL)

Finally to Giants fans I have to say I tip my cap. You had nothing to play for, but you knew what that game meant. You played with incredible intensity and with the exception of having a linebacker match up with Randy Moss too often your gameplan was exceptional. Play like that against the NFC in the playoffs and you WILL be representing the NFC in the Superbowl. I'll be routing for you against the Bucs, which is unusual because I usually route for the Bucs as my Dad used to be a statistician for them.

:rant:

Let the flames against me start. :)

[[W33T] JimmytehHand8]

Everyone keeps ruling out the Colts. They are probably the biggest threat to the Pats superbowl run. Other than that, I don't see any AFC team that stands a chance against the Pats. So it all comes down to the game I really actually want to see which would be the Pats and the Colts again. And Dallas vs. the Giants in the NFC Title match.

[FozzyBear]

In recent memory, the NFC title games have been much more entertaining than the Super Bowl itself.

I'm looking forward to the Giants Vs Cowboys.


I almost forgot Go Cowboys! I know they lost, but this game didn't really count for us. And, they played like it.

[sir_digalot]

the only thing i have to say is this.

the pats are a good team, there is no doubt in that (then again so are the packers and the useless bears swept their cheeseheaded butts back up to cheeseland :D)

anyway this season really should have been a 15-1 simply due to the fiasco at the beginning, in most sports if a team ( read coach\whoever) is caught cheating, which he was, 1 play 4 plays a whole game whatever.... the team should forfeit the win... as an individual would do if they were caught cheating... however in this case it did not happen for whatever reason, so like baseball and barry bonds etc, i think their superbowl victory should have an asterix next to it also just like BB's home run baseball.

but thats just me, i am not trying to knock the team for a great acheivement, just the system for not being hard enough on cheaters when caught

[atomicbob]

Only thing I have to say is.....

Now we have to listen to all you Yanks talk about it FOREVER!!!

/whine

http://www.yankeessuckonline.com/funny_farm/yankees-suck3.jpg

:flipoff::lickit::rockon::gfight::wtf:

[redish16]

I still think Romo is a tremendous quarterback and will be for a long time and I think he'll be going to the Hall of Fame one day.


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