Why do so many people punish?

[Blis]

If you punish for non-intentional teamkills please tell me why.

I need some reasons cause its starting to drive me crazy and if I cant understand why these people do what they do I'm just going to get angrier and angrier and I cant play when I'm angry.

I dont tk people on purpose and I dont throw nades if I think it might hit a teammate but like 80 percent of the time I get punished.

I'm new to the game so I figure there must be something I'm unaware of because I cant accept that 80% of gamers are just assholes.

So far in all my online gaming these are the only people who have actually managed to make me properly angry.Hackers and intentional tk'ers just make me sigh or get a little frustrated but these people really piss me off.I almost got my first silver star earlier but some guy chose to punish me because he ran around a corner and my nade was there.

[FozzyBear]

Welcome to BF2 :thumbsup:


Don't let it get to you. I always get punished. Could be worse, they could have the same punish system we have in CS:S. :D

Be a bunch of blind soldiers running around :lol:

[antigen]

I think I can go out on a limb here and say that none of the WiH regs will punish for accidental tk's.

I sure as heck don't.. even if it's the lamest thing ever.. I don't punish.

[Blis]

I think I can go out on a limb here and say that none of the WiH regs will punish for accidental tk's.

I sure as heck don't.. even if it's the lamest thing ever.. I don't punish.

Yeah I havent been punished by any of the names I know from the forums.Strangely enough I havent seen that many of the forum people on the server either.

[Knottwobad]

Yeah it seems like the non-regulars to the server almost can't hit punish fast enough. They don't even give you a chance to say your sorry which I do anyway. I think once I even said sorry even after someone punished me yesterday and got a go **** yourself. Try not to let it bother you, it's mostly kids and assholes who don't deserve to play on our servers who do it. I recommend that of given the opportunity give them the same treatment that they give you if they tk you then maybe they may learn something.

[StevenNevets]

I think I can go out on a limb here and say that none of the WiH regs will punish for accidental tk's.If only that were true.

Most don't though.:thumbsup:

[Uncle_Ho]

I rarely punish

It may happen if I forget in the heat of battle to hit the forgive button becouse then it will default punish.:dunno:

I may if a person kills me to take a vehicle or If they kill me more than once :rofl: about killing me.

If I am running in to a location to attack and eat a friendly nade then I just put some katsup on it and rub my belly and say yum yum. Cause I got no one to blame but me for that.:thumbsup:

For the most part I have noticed that frequent punishment is usually dished out by nOObs that practice tends to fade with rank.:army:

Gamers are people and as people they are less understanding when not face to face with you:wallbash:

[Prowler130]

i am going to say that some people punish because to them, it seemed like something that could have been avoided. The people that punish before an apology can be made, i cant speak for them

[Blis]

It may happen if I forget in the heat of battle to hit the forgive button becouse then it will default punish.


It default punishes!?! WTF!!!?! That means I've punished people.

That helps explain some of the 80% away.People forgetting and people getting back for me unwittingly punishing them.

The tk's I feel worst about are when I dont even know I've done it and havent said sorry.I just randomly see 'you have been punished for a teamkill' out of nowhere.I can understand those.I still do then say sorry even if it is a bit late.

I just remembered something annoying that happens to me sometimes,let me take this chance to explain and apologise if I've done it to anyone here.

Sometimes someone will give me ammo or something and and I'll hold q and move the mouse over thankyou but when I click the mouse to say it it also shoots the guy.Thankfully I'm almost always a medic and can heal the guy but it must make me seem like a bit of a dick.Anyone know why that happens to me?

[Klickinater]

I remember that before I came here I was one of those people who gave out punish's all the time. I guess the only reason for it is that you are fusterated that your own team killed you. The one tip I can give you here is

Don't teamkill

they can't punish if you dont kill them in the first place. I know its not intentional, but if you take a second more to look at their uniform/blue thing on their head then you can save yourself some negative points even if it does mean getting killed a little more often.
But there are those times when you are bombing, or throwing nades at someone and they just run into those and you can't stop it. But other than that you should be good.

[JustMeBF2]

I used to never or rarely punish on IO, especially when I am always charging in on a bunch enemies.
But like the other day and so many other times, there will be one or two enemies trying to get a flag. Several of us will be on them and here comes the nades and TKs.
NADES = BAD
But maybe they don't know how to see a teammate or look at their HUD.
Each time I get out a nade, I know I may get a TK with punish, so
I rarely use them.

PS I am a claymore ho, so I still get lots of punished TKs.

Remember it is just a game.
Don't get mad, Get points !!!!!!!!!

[EdrrakNolat]

The only time I EVER punish is situations where I see the person run right up to me, and unload a clip into me. Or I see someone driving right at where I'm hiding and running me over, without deviating at ALL.

Oh, and check the sig. I don't remember who I snagged it from, but I'm glad I found it!

[juuh77]

If you punish for non-intentional teamkills please tell me why.

I need some reasons cause its starting to drive me crazy and if I cant understand why these people do what they do I'm just going to get angrier and angrier and I cant play when I'm angry.

I dont tk people on purpose and I dont throw nades if I think it might hit a teammate but like 80 percent of the time I get punished.

I'm new to the game so I figure there must be something I'm unaware of because I cant accept that 80% of gamers are just assholes.

So far in all my online gaming these are the only people who have actually managed to make me properly angry.Hackers and intentional tk'ers just make me sigh or get a little frustrated but these people really piss me off.I almost got my first silver star earlier but some guy chose to punish me because he ran around a corner and my nade was there.

The only time i punish is when i am hit with a nade. Now this being said its only when i am ahead of the person and that person doesn't look at the hud and to see if he has a clear shot at the enemy. I have died many times capping a flag with no enemies around. other then that i almost never punish.

[Tykwer]

if you dont hit page up or page down it DOES NOT AUTO PUNISH! it auto forgives. the only time i've puished other than people blatently tking me on purpose is when i try to forgive by hitting the button and hit the wrong one. just keep playing normally and it will forgive them after 30-50 secs.

[FozzyBear]

I was going to say. I believe by default it auto-forgives.

[SLCoran]

I honestly think they punish because it help improve their score by lowering yours, on top of the fact that they are asshats.

[mr.hrundi]

A punish doesnt give you negative score. a teamkill is always -4, it doesn't matter if punished or not.
A punish only gets you closer to the auto kick (mostly between 3 and 7 punished tk's).

[Blis]

A punish doesnt give you negative score. a teamkill is always -4, it doesn't matter if punished or not.
A punish only gets you closer to the auto kick (mostly between 3 and 7 punished tk's).

ah,I didnt know that.It doesnt bother me so much now

[LordBeer]

Sometimes someone will give me ammo or something and and I'll hold q and move the mouse over thankyou but when I click the mouse to say it it also shoots the guy.Thankfully I'm almost always a medic and can heal the guy but it must make me seem like a bit of a dick.Anyone know why that happens to me?

I've had that happen before. I've gotten in the habit of taking my sights off of friendlies when trying to say thanks. Just to be sure. I know I've beaned a few people before.

[StevenNevets]

I've had that happen before. I've gotten in the habit of taking my sights off of friendlies when trying to say thanks. Just to be sure. I know I've beaned a few people before.I barely use the commands anymore. After M95'ing a friendly jet pilot from one side of the air strip to the plane spawn, noob tubing the heli pad, and shooting tons of random teameates.... Sucks when that happens.

[Septa Scarabae]

I only punish if one of the following happens:

1.) Someone TKs me and steals my boat.
2.) Someone TKs me and doesn't mention that it was an accident, or say Sorry.

All other cases, I'm glad to move on. I'm very sensitive about my boats. However, I can see the reasoning behind always punishing. After all, even in accidental situations, you just killed a teammate.

[Blis]

1.) Someone TKs me and steals my boat.


:lol:

[Uncle_Ho]

Yes, I didnt realize it for a long time but if you do not hit forgive it will punish the person that killed you. :thumbsdown:

Should be the other way around I think but EA doesent agree:dunno:

[Prowler130]

Yes, I didnt realize it for a long time but if you do not hit forgive it will punish the person that killed you. :thumbsdown:

Should be the other way around I think but EA doesent agree:dunno:

ARE YOU SERIOUS? i didnt know that, no wonder why ppl complain i punish too much

[StevenNevets]

What...?


I'm pretty sure it auto-forgives.

[CrockD]

What...?


I'm pretty sure it auto-forgives.

My experience has been that it auto-punishes if you do nothing.

[KAstickboy]

The Auto Punish/Forgive is a server setting. Last time I played WiH it was set to Auto Forgive and i dont think it has been changed to auto punish.

KA

[CrockD]

The Auto Punish/Forgive is a server setting. Last time I played WiH it was set to Auto Forgive and i dont think it has been changed to auto punish.

KA

Ahhhhh....it's been a while since I played so i'm sure you're right on that.

I think my biggest pet peeve is when I get a TK when I didn't really TK. This happened to me when we had the AF server. Someone was flying a helicoptor and put it into a dive while I was sitting in the gunner position. I guess they must have bailed before I did because next thing I know, I bail, the helicoptor hits something and explodes and I get told that I TK'd my pilot. What's more..he punished me!!

[Uncle_Ho]

Just to be sure I went and played on a sever and ran in on flags until I ate a nade. When it asked me punish or not I ignored it. After several seconds it popped up that I had punished the offender. Maybe its a server thing I didnt go test on WiH as it was full and I didnt have a reserved spot.:wallbash: :bow: :thumbsup: :thumbsdown:

[SLCoran]

I thought it was a -2 for TK then another -2 for the punish.

[Tykwer]

it has auto forgived on wih for as long as i can remember. i thought it was -4 for tk and -2 for punish so -6 all together :dunno:

[SLCoran]

i thought it was -4 for tk and -2 for punish so -6 all together

I haven't really played much BF2 in awhile but that does sound right Tykwer now that I think about it.

[lamah]

i think it's -2 for team damage that becomes -4 when it becomes a kill, and another -4 for punish

i dunno :P but i've seen -8 before after a team kill and punish.....

[KAstickboy]

the only reason there is a punish system is to player regulate the server.

TK and punished = -4
TK and forgiven = -4

Servers are set for a number of punishes = kick from server. So late at night and no admins are on, some douchie starts a TK spree, everyone can punish and once the offender gets to the server setting (WiH is 4 or 5) in a round they get a kick for whatever the server sets it for (WiH is 20min still i think)

KA

[EANeuspeed]

P uu nn iii ss hhh!!!!!! P uuuu nn iii ss hh!

[Septa Scarabae]

Just so we can clear this up, I'm going to explain it, with screenshots. When you inflict damage to a teammate, you take -2 to your score. When teamkill a teammate, you take -4 to your score. Together, you take -6 to your score, whether you're punished or not. If you don't believe me, I'll gladly go shoot some more innocent folks in the face for you.

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[Ichi]

... If you don't believe me, I'll gladly go shoot some more innocent folks in the face for you.

Do that on our servers and you will get banned!

[Blis]

If you don't believe me, I'll gladly go shoot some more innocent folks in the face for you.

:lol:

Thanks for clearing that up

[Dereks_06]

I thought the amount of points you lose was a server setting. I noticed on some that you will lose up to 8 points and on wih you lose 4 points.

I almost never punish unless they tked me more than twice and are not a regular. Also anyone that sais sorry or revives me.

[Septa Scarabae]

I thought the amount of points you lose was a server setting. I noticed on some that you will lose up to 8 points and on wih you lose 4 points.

A teamkill is always -4. You get -6 and -8 because of the amount of team damage inflicted prior to the teamkill.

[SnaKe]

We are set to auto forgive.

[Gr0und_mA5t3r]

people punish because their fags,they just like seein people get banned

[Crotch-Rot]

people punish because their fags,they just like seein people get banned

I punished bc people deserved it. Does that make me fag?

[SLCoran]

D'oh!
The only time I punish is when I know it was on purpose.

[StevenNevets]

I punished bc people deserved it.Like when?
If they deserved it shouldn't they be banned?



Just wondering.

[EANeuspeed]

I punished bc people deserved it. Does that make me fag?


:lol: Thats a trick question.

[FozzyBear]

If you are playing the game willy nilly, not watching your fire. You will get punished for a TK that shouldn't have happened. If you rush head-long and get TK'd, you should forgive. :slap:

Just like when you are bad at home, you get punished. And you learn not to do that again. If you continue to INTENTIONALLY wound/kill your teammates, that is another matter entirely.

Banning people for TK's are what the admins do. It is up to our discrection if it was intentional, or just part of the learning curve. We were all new once.

Hope that answers your question.

[Crotch-Rot]

Like when?
If they deserved it shouldn't they be banned?



Just wondering.

If I'm trying to cap a flag, you grenade it and tk me, you'll get punished. Do you deserve to be banned for being careless? no. But the punish will get your attention to be more careful next time.

[lamah]

99% of the time i forgive. why? because i expect the same from others

[Prowler130]

If I'm trying to cap a flag, you grenade it and tk me, you'll get punished. Do you deserve to be banned for being careless? no. But the punish will get your attention to be more careful next time.

agreed, yet people like us get heat for punishing.... i wonder why

[Uncle_Ho]

Crotchrot likes to punish you should see his cat o 9 tails:bow: :bow: :dunno:

[Prowler130]

Crotchrot likes to punish you should see his cat o 9 tails:bow: :bow: :dunno:

Isn't there a pic of that in the AO forum? If not, ill find one :)

[EANeuspeed]

I like to punish because it pisses people off. I always punish. :D

[TexHarms]

I don't see how punishing even matters. If someone is so crappy that they build enough TK punishes to be kicked, then you deserve it. Tk's happen. Just move along.