Xbox Live Request for you guys!

[Father Goose]

This is Father Goose with a PSA.

Fellow Xbox Live members, your Live subscription comes with a valuable tool. The ability to report total asshats. Because of the "Wild West" nature of Xbox Live resulting in a total lack of admins (since there are no real "servers") it's up to you to be the Sheriff in town, and help take care of these guys.

So don't be afraid to click on the "Player Review" or "File a Complaint" buttons, friends. Microsoft can't be expected to take complaints seriously if we aren't filing them.

/PSA

Does anybody know how Microsoft investigates this stuff? I mean, I know they don't really give a crap about Player Reviews. But I have filed a couple complaints lately, one for a guy with the "N" word in his name and another for a 12 year old who wouldn't stop shouting "f**got", "n**ger", and the like.

If you accrue enough, does it flag an account and cause a Microsoft admin to start listening in when these guys play? Just wondering.

[GorroXXII]

Has Father Goose been a bad boy???

I wondered this myself, though I only play with you guys, and you guys are use to my rambling drunken states! :D but this brings up a good question? and also maybe a to list asshats to stay away from.

edit: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/codeofconduct.htm I read this

[Knottwobad]

This is Father Goose with a PSA.

Fellow Xbox Live members, your Live subscription comes with a valuable tool. The ability to report total asshats. Because of the "Wild West" nature of Xbox Live resulting in a total lack of admins (since there are no real "servers") it's up to you to be the Sheriff in town, and help take care of these guys.

So don't be afraid to click on the "Player Review" or "File a Complaint" buttons, friends. Microsoft can't be expected to take complaints seriously if we aren't filing them.

/PSA

Does anybody know how Microsoft investigates this stuff? I mean, I know they don't really give a crap about Player Reviews. But I have filed a couple complaints lately, one for a guy with the "N" word in his name and another for a 12 year old who wouldn't stop shouting "f**got", "n**ger", and the like.

If you accrue enough, does it flag an account and cause a Microsoft admin to start listening in when these guys play? Just wondering.

I read an article in the Xbox magazine and it basically said it takes a lot of complaints and then they start watching the person in question themselves with a monitor account. I believe it takes way more than a couple of complaints. The player review has no effect on the person getting banned it just makes it so you will not get linked up with him the next time you do a quick match on live. The editor of the magazine set up an account and attempted everything he could to get his account locked over a 1 month period short of bad language and although he had a very bad rep he never got banned.

[wihadmin]

All the Player Review and Complaint stuff is what I called "feel good" actions. They are there so that those that have been wronged can take an action against the doer. That's it. It doesn't go any where else useful. So review/complain all you want. Nothing's going to happen.

[Father Goose]

So in other words:

At War is Hell for free I can get a gaming environment where people are held accountable for being hackers, glitchers, racists, and general asshats.

With Xbox Live for $50 a year there is no accountability no matter how poorly behaved somebody is. This is despite a system including a single user ID, a feedback mechanism, and a defined Code of Conduct.

Dammit.

[Multiplex]

That's the nature of the beast. No centralized servers for communities to support... no centralized admin team to back it up.

Welcome to the Wild West of gaming.

[Father Goose]

I wish there was some way you could rent a "real" server from Microsoft for games. However, that would be stupid for them to support.

$$$

I only played CS:S for so long, and BF2 for so long, even when my computer could barely run it, because of War is Hell. Without a good place to play I would have moved on to other games sooner and thus spent more money.

Look at Halo 2- because of the extremely high level of support from Bungie, essentially creating their own community, people still play the crap out of that game. I think Microsoft doesn't mind Halo doing that because it drove system sales, but I don't think they want every game to do that, because most games aren't a killer app like Halo or Halo 2.

I think that overall Microsoft wants people to buy the software, play it but not get too attached, and then move on to the next piece of $60 software. :thumbsdown:

I donated to WiH a couple times, and if I still played here I would probably pitch in a buck or two sometimes. In that vein I would be fine with helping to pay for a R6:V server if that were even possible, if it could be administered like a "real" server and not babysat like the normal Xbox Live servers.

Sigh. I just want to be able to boot asshats. Dammit.

[wihadmin]

AFAIK, Xbox Live games are on a peer-to-peer network. The person creating the gaming session is the host. Everyone else connects to them. Live is just a match-making service directing traffic to the host's 360. The only time there's a central server is if there's a game with persistent world like TDU. Then that's served up from some sort of central server.

[Multiplex]

Honestly, I think the fact that you can drive down to Gamestop and get an X-Box 360 audio taunter that plugs into your headset jack for 15 bucks says it all.

That's why I mostly stick to SP games on console... although I occassionally venture out and play with WiH people or RL friends.

[wihadmin]

I always remember you using the Piles against the other team's base in Chrome Hounds while the rest of us distracted them on the front lines.

[Multiplex]

Now those were good times! It was my Pile Puppy!

[Father Goose]

AFAIK, Xbox Live games are on a peer-to-peer network. The person creating the gaming session is the host. Everyone else connects to them. Live is just a match-making service directing traffic to the host's 360. The only time there's a central server is if there's a game with persistent world like TDU. Then that's served up from some sort of central server.

R6:Vegas gives you the option to turn your 360 into a "dedicated server", but that seems pretty dumb...I mean, maybe it would be cool to have a dedicated server...if I had a second 360 and a TV next to me so I could hit the "launch game" buttons and crap inbetween rounds.

[Father Goose]

Must...kill....everybody....

If I spend 3 hours playing R6:V online, 1 of those hours will be doing the matchmaking. 1-2 might be gameplay. Peer-to-peer gameplay does NOT encourage anything positive and in fact encourages people to be total dicks with no repercussions.

Seriously...if I had the extra $$$ I would buy another 360 so I could run my own server. My version of a headshot would be kicking off assholes!

I am so addicted to this game, but my precious free time gets destroyed...seriously, the Friends List is worthless. Just because a guy is fun to game with doesn't mean he hasn't accidentally landed on a server of idiots. So it doesn't do me much good to join servers based on that.

:wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:

Sigh. Well, at least Crackdown and Stranglehold will give me some fun single player experiences, and Forza 2 should have online with minimal human contact.

Honest to God, the inmates at my jail behave better than 50% of the people I meet on Xbox Live.

[Lt.Res]

Yea whenever I play xbox live I always report all the poeple
too bad Microsoft doesn't look at teh player complaints cus I life those left and right

[wihadmin]

FG, any reason why you don't host the games? Then you can just kick out the idiots.

[Father Goose]

I will start hosting games, but I have been hesitant to do so because:

1- You need consistency, and in a typical night of gaming I'll get up and take a couple breaks, make some food, etc. R6 doesn't have a hot-swap thingy for the host, so if I quit, everybody gets booted.

2- Often Mother Goose is over here and I don't know if I would be a low-latency host with two 360s, one of them hosting, on the same cable connection.

But when MG left last night it was the general consensus that next time I will host a game just so I can quit my whining. :D Peer to peer is great for stuff like, say, Poker, or Worms, or Uno. Not so great for larger-scale team-based games. But I will adapt and overcome.

[Max47r]

If I spend 3 hours playing R6:V online, 1 of those hours will be doing the matchmaking. 1-2 might be gameplay.

That happens to me all the time, its so annoying, that is why i spend 20-30 mins looking for a good player match that i can play for two hours before the host leaves or freezes.

Also the article in the xbox magizine said that even though the player review was created for a purpose almost no one looks at the player reviews, a lot of people write reviews but no one cares. And that speacial xbox code of conduct monitoring team only looks at filed reports on people. The writer of the article created an account to see how long it takes for him to get kicked off and it took them. It says that after 11 days of five hours of dirty playing he finally put his crotch on camera and didn't get banned.

[Kev Kanos]

It says that after 11 days of five hours of dirty playing he finally put his crotch on camera and didn't get banned.


Now that is one of the funniest things I have ever heard. :lol:

[Father Goose]

I haven't sent a crotch photo yet, but...

The other day a guy was hosting a server...I waited 19:45 of the 20:00 minute game time to play! I joined up on one team and Mother Goose was on the other...my team seemed pretty cool, so we stuck around the whole time. My team was pretty tactical and they didn't say much but they whooped ass.

With 10 seconds left the host (who was losing at this point) banned the entire other team, and in the lobby was laughing and laughing about it. Then he told me and some other guys to stick around, because they'd had their fun.

Now, you guys know me...I don't get too profane online or anything.

...but this one time I shouted, "F*** YOU" into the mike, and disconnected. Then I game him a bad review, and THEN I sent him an Xbox Live picture of just my middle finger.

It felt pretty good. I figure if MS doesn't give a s*** how I behave I might as well get some stress out towards the real jackasses. :jerkit:

[wihadmin]

If you can't beat the asshats. Join them! :D