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StevenNevets
01-14-2007, 12:47 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16614865

atomicbob
01-14-2007, 01:28 AM
Massive lawsuits pending.

kilroy0097
01-14-2007, 01:54 AM
Against the radio station probably. Depends on the release form really.

Multiplex
01-14-2007, 02:13 AM
Nice... WTG retardation!

GroovyDude
01-14-2007, 07:42 AM
This sounds like a CSI: Vegas storyline. It really sucks for her family, especially the three kids:thumbsdown:

wihadmin
01-14-2007, 11:10 AM
something like this happened to a frat hazing a few years ago as well. The kid also died from water intoxication. That's a shame. I wonder if they had her sign a waiver stating that she knew the dangers and willingingly participates. I wonder if that has any legal bindings.

papasan9
01-14-2007, 11:18 AM
Massive lawsuits pending.

yupper

fellik
01-14-2007, 11:21 AM
It really sucks for her family, especially the three kids:thumbsdown:

i have to agree

Persephone
01-14-2007, 02:37 PM
wow that sucks

Gruthar
01-14-2007, 03:58 PM
something like this happened to a frat hazing a few years ago as well. The kid also died from water intoxication. That's a shame. I wonder if they had her sign a waiver stating that she knew the dangers and willingingly participates. I wonder if that has any legal bindings.

I think just about any radio station has you sign a form releasing them from liability prior to contests like these. My condolences to her family... And though it's a terrible thing to ask... did she win the Wii posthumously? Inquiring minds want to know! :D

StevenNevets
01-14-2007, 04:29 PM
I know as much as you know.
Try google and see if the story is anywhere else, perhaps they mention it.

Father Goose
01-14-2007, 06:17 PM
This happens to runners sometimes.

Okay, so I call Toys R Us, Wal Mart, Target, Best Buy, Circuit City, and SIX DIFFERENT Gamestop/EBs about every other day. I am obviously pretty stoked to get a Wii.

But anything that involves any more discomfort than walking into a store and handing over some cash....not gonna happen.

StevenNevets
01-14-2007, 06:52 PM
They've produced more systems this launch then any other console launch ever... it's not their fault

sir_digalot
01-14-2007, 06:54 PM
water intoxication sucks, wow, that is a horrible way to die... especially for a stupid console

( i am not mocking the wii, i was making a statement about it being only a game console, it could have been any of them it is still a stupid reason to die for)

juuh77
01-14-2007, 07:41 PM
water intoxication sucks, wow, that is a horrible way to die... especially for a stupid console

( i am not mocking the wii, i was making a statement about it being only a game console, it could have been any of them it is still a stupid reason to die for)

I agree with you on it being a dumb reason to die. Though i doubt anyone thought they were going to die from this. Hope this teaches a lesson to the dumb ass radio stations not to hold stupid contests for anything and everything. I hope her family owns the station when its all said and done.

FozzyBear
01-14-2007, 11:32 PM
I hope her family owns the station when its all said and done.


I have to disagree........ :smack:


Only children have to have something "NOW!!!" Adults can wait, and hopefully have the presence of mind not to endanger themselves to get a "thing"


As far as I'm concerned we cleaned up the gene pool........other than the spawn she already produced.......


(and yes, I am sorry for the children. It is not their fault they had an ignorant mother......... )

antigen
01-15-2007, 01:23 AM
That radio station should be sued and lose their license.

This is what happens when people don't study their science.

Yes, too much water is bad for you.

Satanic
01-15-2007, 10:08 AM
When are people going to be smart enough to realize that there is nothing in this world that you can't eat or drink too much of.

juuh77
01-15-2007, 10:14 AM
I have to disagree........ :smack:


Only children have to have something "NOW!!!" Adults can wait, and hopefully have the presence of mind not to endanger themselves to get a "thing"


As far as I'm concerned we cleaned up the gene pool........other than the spawn she already produced.......


(and yes, I am sorry for the children. It is not their fault they had an ignorant mother......... )

lol i finally got the smack him smile. Maybe one less in the gene pool. Though this still doesn't excuse the radio station for holding contests they have no business doing in the first place.

Grim_Scythe
01-15-2007, 11:46 AM
they stated that if you are not up to it don't do it. Personally she's a fricking idiot for doing this kind of shit. Its just a ****ing console... go get a ps2 and your kids will be fine.

wihadmin
01-15-2007, 11:53 AM
You guys are being quite harsh on the woman.

She might not have a clue that you can die from drinking too much water. Idiot? No. Naive, yeah. It's not common sense to think that you can die from drinking too much water. How many people know that? I didn't until I was reading about the fraternity story.

In addition, she's doing it for her kids. Unless you have kids, you don't know what it means to do something self-less for your kids. Until you do, STFU!

So instead of insulting the dead woman, how about showing some compassion? Man! I'm ashamed I know you people!

StevenNevets
01-15-2007, 12:44 PM
Ye. Water is supposed to be an important resource for our body and one of the few things we eat/drink that's completely natural.
Doesn't sound to vicious

Blis
01-15-2007, 12:59 PM
The only reason i knew about water intoxication was because of a chick called leah betts who died of it in britain.

She was the first person the press made a big deal over dying of ecstacy.It turned out it wasnt the drug that killed her but all the water she drunk.

She'd heard that you need to drink a lot of water on ecstacy and according to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leah_Betts) she drank 7 litres in 90 minutes.

lamah
01-15-2007, 02:22 PM
wow

28 too......

sir_digalot
01-15-2007, 02:46 PM
Ye. Water is supposed to be an important resource for our body and one of the few things we eat/drink that's completely natural.
Doesn't sound to vicious

obviously you have never heard of Dihydrogen Monoxide ;)

antigen
01-15-2007, 02:58 PM
You guys are being quite harsh on the woman.

She might not have a clue that you can die from drinking too much water. Idiot? No. Naive, yeah. It's not common sense to think that you can die from drinking too much water. How many people know that? I didn't until I was reading about the fraternity story.

In addition, she's doing it for her kids. Unless you have kids, you don't know what it means to do something self-less for your kids. Until you do, STFU!

So instead of insulting the dead woman, how about showing some compassion? Man! I'm ashamed I know you people!

Personally, it's not her I'm concerned with.. it's the radio station.

StevenNevets
01-15-2007, 03:02 PM
obviously you have never heard of Dihydrogen Monoxide ;)WTF?

:lol:

sir_digalot
01-15-2007, 10:15 PM
www.DHMO.org

juuh77
01-15-2007, 10:16 PM
Personally, it's not her I'm concerned with.. it's the radio station.

same here. I feel really bad for her kids. Like i said if the stations were in check and not allowed to do crazy crap like this for stuff it would have never happened. So i hope the station gets owned by her husband.

Drayu
01-16-2007, 08:20 AM
yeah, this is crazy stuff!

tHa_KhAn
01-17-2007, 01:52 PM
www.DHMO.org (http://www.DHMO.org)

I'm glad I just read your post I almost posted this link. I had my aunt and mother confused and scared one day.

Here's another fun one. http://www.junkscience.com/news/glassman.html

lamah
01-17-2007, 11:01 PM
YOU'RE FIRED
YOU'RE FIRED
YOU'RE FIRED

http://cbs3.com/topstories/topstories_story_017100650.html

Tykwer
01-17-2007, 11:12 PM
that was pretty morbid. larry king played clips of the show. a caller warned them before the contest and she complained about her head hurting and what not, all the while the djs made really morbid jokes concerning the contestants health.

LordBeer
01-18-2007, 06:10 AM
Dunno how this will turn out but it seems the Sheriff is investigating this now. I bet they will get them on involuntary manslaughter. Question is, how many of them? I'd think the DJs jokes about people dying from water intoxication will be clincher.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/17/radio.death.reut/index.html

Paul30
01-18-2007, 06:36 AM
Consider yourselves informed....

Rule #1 - you can’t drink too much water.
Rule #2 - too much salt will kill you eventually.

If you live by those 2 rules - and you exercise / work regularly in hot weather, read on, it just might save your health. (OR SO YOU THOUGHT!!!)

The truth is, too much water and not enough salt can kill you. Most people know that dehydration can cause serious health consequences. What most don’t realize is that too much of a good thing — WATER — can also be dangerous, even deadly.

They call it WATER INTOXICATION or more technically HYPONATREMIA. It happens when the body’s balance of salt and water become quickly diluted. It affects the production of nerve impulses, and impairs mental processes. Cells take on extra water and expand. As they swell, they put stress on the body’s organs, particularly the brain, which has little room to expand within the skull. Sometimes Hyponatremia is caused by an underlying medical condition.

Hyponatremia isn’t unique to the military. Indeed, marathon runners, tri-athletes, even high-desert hikers all can succumb. “Most people aren’t aware of the risk of drinking too much water,” said Bob Murray, director of Gatorade Sports Science Institute. Sport drinks are engineered to replace both salt and fluids depleted during exercise. Drinking sports drinks can help; but it alone can’t maintain adequate sodium levels for people engaging in rigorous, endurance–level activity.

The point is you need to replenish not only the fluids you lose when you sweat, but the salt as well. Nothing that comes out of your body is pure water. So you’ve got to replace it with both the salt and water, Not Just Water.

Water Intoxication typically occurs over 4 to 6 hours or more. It attacks participants in High–Endurance events, such as marathons, long road marches and triathlons in which participants swim, bicycle and run long distances in non–stop succession.

WHY YOU NEED SODIUM

Sodium helps maintain the body’s electrical processes essential to transmitting nerve impulses and contracting muscles. When the body’s sodium content is depleted at the same time water level is increased, cells absorb more water and swell. Excessive water in the brain cells can cause seizures and in rare cases death.

TAKE RESPONSIBILITY

(1) If you are drinking and drinking and still feel horrible you need to let someone know.

(2) Besides setting drinking limits, you can maintain proper sodium level by eating chow hall food or MRE’s.

(3) Follow Hydration Instructions based on Activity Levels as well as Temperature Levels.

The Problems with Hyponatremia is that conditions may be accelerated by some existing physical condition such as;

(1) Cystic fibrosis – a condition that causes a person to lose large amount of sodium through sweating.

(2) Another problem is that initial symptoms of Hyponatremia – dizziness & headaches are the same for Dehydration and Heat Exhaustion. But the repeated vomiting common with Hyponatremia usually doesn’t occur with dehydration or heat exhaustion. So if they are not making a rapid recovery and vomiting. It’s recommending that they should be evacuated because they might have Hyponatremia.

Although civilian fatalities are rare, most race directors have seen cases that presented with seizures or comas and had to be hospitalized and some times put on the ventilator. While Hyponatremia is preventable, it also is highly treatable. Depending on the severity; the condition can be corrected by eating salted food or in more serious cases; by administering Saline Solution directly into the blood stream with IV. But only a small percentage require hospitalization.

Note: IV should only be administered by qualified medical personnel.

To Much of a Good thing

People have assumed that it’s difficult or impossible to get too much of a good thing and that if you drink too much your kidneys will get rid of the excess water. That’s not necessarily true. On average, during rest the body can rid itself of 1 to 1 ½ quarts of water in an hour through urination. If you drink more than that per hour, in excess of what you need, the body will retain water and dilute body fluids.

3 key factors

Physical conditioning, genetics, acclimatization to heat determines how much sodium you lose through sweat. The better your physical conditioning and the better your heat acclimation the more sodium you will retain.

How much salt you need to consume depends largely on how active you are. Athletes and Soldiers who carry a full pack 10 miles a day needs more than those whose primary job keeps them behind a desk.

The American Heart Association recommends daily intakes of no more than 2,400mg. of sodium per day, about 1 ¼ teaspoon. But Murray said; "people who are active for more than a few hour can sweat out many times that amount".

While rate vary; Murray said that for an hour’s workout at the gym most people can sweat ¾ of a quart to 1 ½ quart an hour and sometimes twice that rate. The average person will sweat about 1 gram of sodium for every quart of sweat. So those amounts should be replenished through food and sport drinks.

But Don’t Stop drinking water, you just need balance.

To help maintain the proper fluid and salt level; its advised that you weigh yourself before and after heavy physical exercises. For each pound lost, drink 1 pint of fluid. But if you weigh more you’ve drank too much. Says Armstrong former president of American College of Sports Medicine.

Telling the Difference

Although the symptoms are similar in both dehydration and Hyponatremia, there are some differences. With hyponatremia the person is more likely to vomit repeatedly than someone suffering from dehydration is. Seizures are more likely also.

New Medical Evacuation Guidelines

If the person vomits at least twice, and hasn’t shown marked recovery after 1 hour of re-hydration and continues to generally deteriorate they need medical help.

Equal Opportunity Health Risk

In the general population hyponatremia seem to occur more often in women, but it also occurs in men. People who tend to become hyponatremic are vigilant water drinkers who maintain low– salt diets. As a rule of thumb people who drink more than 3 quarts of fluids a day need to be certain to get enough salt. The dietary guidelines that recommend watching salt consumption are great for couch potatoes. But when people are physically active the rules change. And don’t think you can maintain a low– salt diet and make–up for it with sport drinks. Sport drinks aren’t salty enough.

Tips to Prevent Hyponatremia

(1) Switch to a saltier diet in anticipation of High Endurance activity, whether it’s running a marathon or a long road march.

(2) Eat pretzels over the last half of a long race or march.

(3) Favor sport drinks over water and drink 5 to 8 ounces every 15 to 20 minutes.

(4) Young, healthy and very physically active people need salt. THE EXCEPTIONS: those with high blood pressures or kidney disease.

(5) Replace the fluid you’re losing while you exercise. The best thing to drink if you want to work hard and recover quickly isn’t water. It’s a sport drink that can replenish Electrolytes and Nutrients lost through sweat.

Hyponatremia symptoms

(1) Nausea and vomiting

(2) Disorientation

(3) Lack of coordination

(4) Headaches

(5) Dizziness

(6) Looks an awful lot like those of Dehydration

How too much water makes you sick

(1) Exposure to heat and exercise: The body cools itself by sweating, carrying sodium and water out through the skin.

(2) Drinking water only: Replenishing fluids by drinking only water dilutes the sodium level in the fluid surrounding the body’s cells.

(3) Cell reaction: The relative imbalance of sodium outside the cells causes them to absorb excess water, swelling their size. If this happens to rapidly, it can inflame the lungs, swell the brain and possibly cause death.


FLUID REPLACEMENT GUIDELINES

When temperatures climb, people need more rest and water to keep working. The work – rest cycles and amounts of water that the Army says are needed to sustain performance and hydration for at least 4 hours of work:

Source: u.s. army research institute of environmental medicine

Average service member wearing hot weather BDU’s
HEAT CATAGORY TEMPERATURE FAHRENHEIT EASY WORK MODERATE WORK HARD WORK

1 78-81.9 No Limit 0.5 No limit 0.75 40/20 0.75
2 82-84.9 No Limit 0.5 50/10 0.75 40/20 0.75
3 85-87.9 No Limit 0.75 40/20 0.75 30/30 1
4 88-89.9 Limit 0.75 30/30 0.75 20/40 1
5 >90 Limit 50/10 1 20/40 1 10/50 1


Examples of work intensities are shown below
EASY WORK MODERATE WORK HARD WORK
weapon maintenance walking on loose sand2.5 mph, no load walking on hard surfaces at 3.5 mph with more than a 40# load
walking on hard surfaces at 2.5 mph with less than a 30# load walking on hard surfaces at 3.5 mph with less than a 40# load walking on loose sand at 2.5 with load
rifle drills with load calisthenics
marksmanship training patrolling
individual movement techniques (low crawl)
digging foxhole


NOTE: you shouldn’t drink more than 1 ½ qts of water an hr. or more than 12 qts a day.


Now none of you can say you didn't know!!!!!

EANeuspeed
01-19-2007, 07:28 PM
Sad . All that for a stupid Wii(no offense). Of course there will be major law suit, but why fire the DJ's.? Are they not under some supervision from someone higher?

PoPJaY
01-20-2007, 06:13 PM
i heard about this the other day in school that sucks and the name of the contest was "hold your wee for a wii"